Michael Fitzgerald

I was quite impressed with Kelley in terms of the depth of his research when I saw him give a presentation on Monk. I have not read much by him, though. Mike

What? No sammich? Mike

Well, come on - Branford Marsalis actually recorded an album with Milt Hinton. The other one talks about how trumpet players who never recorded, who stopped playing and were imprisoned fifty years before he was born sounded. I can't really recall the BM content, but it must have been pretty painless. Mike

Mine is wrong. Lord CDROM shows Beskron and Beskrone. I'm going to go with Beskrone. http://www.stevebeskrone.com/ Nice website mailto tactic - Mike

I last talked with Sam in depth when he was in NYC over the summer - yes, a catalogue is planned. Not sure how that is progressing - when I was down there it existed only as a notebook using the exact words from the tape boxes (quite interesting reading even just that!). At that time there were still hundreds of reels of tapes that had not been transferred (grant money is supporting all this work) - the cataloguing is not the main priority, I'd imagine. Getting to the musicians for interviews and getting the stuff transferred and preserved seems to be the first step - but of course, to get the money, the grant writing gets priority over all that. Mike

Booker Little - the missing link between Dokschitzer and Andre and Clifford Brown. Woody Shaw - the missing link between Hubbard and Marsalis And why am I not suprised to see that Bill Dixon, Lester Bowie, and Don Cherry are missing? When will we see the Sandoval tribute to Jon Faddis? Mike

Yikes - "Gland Lad" ??? Don't even go there. I have no faith in that website. Mike

I would suppose it will be Tom Harrell, Bob Berg, Horace Silver, Steve Beckrone, Eddie Gladden. That's the group that played at Ronnie Scott's in July of 1976. Mike

I don't think John Burks is Dave Burns. Never heard that - I believe it's John Burk, who worked with Buddy Johnson in the late 1950s. It's NOT Dizzy Gillespie, who used the John Burk/Berks/Birks name with various folks. Since Dave Burns DID record with Leo Parker for Blue Note just one month later, using his real name, it doesn't make sense to me that he would be using a pseudonym on the earlier session. Mike

The Moody recordings were for Vogue, some later issued on Inner City 7020 "In The Beginning" - haven't heard and can't say for sure how much space Allen gets. I am told he solos on at least one track. There were a few sessions, 1949 and 1950. Discographies confuse Marshall Allen, listed as "Red" Allen - with Henry "Red" Allen (the trumpeter) so Lord CDROM 5.0 now has the July 3, 1950 date listed with "Henry Allen" playing alto. This is really Marshall Allen. I'm confused about the Patrick reference - Allen does not appear on Pat Patrick's "Baritone Retinue" album titled "Sound Ideas" recorded for Saturn (not even listed in Lord). I don't believe there is any other Patrick solo album out there. Mike Looking under "Henry Allen" I find another session that must feature our man - March 1950 in Vienna with Thurmond "Trumpet" Young (who plays on the Moody sessions as Trummy Young - NOT that Trummy Young). 1990s recordings in Lord for "Henry Allen" are NOT Marshall.

"Until I took a trip to Durham, N.C., last week, nobody had heard the Smith tapes since their rediscovery, except some of the musicians on them and Robin D. G. Kelley" I guess I don't count - I went down to Duke two years ago and spent several days listening to this stuff. I have heard quite a few of the Smith tapes and there are some real gems in there - better stuff than the David X. Young material that was issued. Mike

How about 1949 in Switzerland with James Moody? Mike

I hope you know that it is exactly opposite - the 1938 Pavanne is the source for that Impressions melody. I was just enjoying the Ahmad Jamal version of the Pavanne the other day. Mike

East Wind has a nice catalog of stuff - http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Labels/eastwind.htm I'll be looking forward to this. Mike

YES!!!! Saw this in November 2003 - a beautiful film with a great soundtrack. It really does the job right. I am just thrilled to death to know that David Berger was able to overcome some of the obstacles he spoke about at the time - boy, film rights are a bitch! Pray that we may even see a DVD in the future. Mike

Please - there are no temper issues here. And come on, work says it's OK to read and post on organissimo??!???! (But not to follow links in organissimo postings?) Mike

Since I *already* mentioned the discography and the website earlier in this very thread, only those who aren't careful readers aren't aware of it at this point. I don't expect everyone to know about it ahead of time - that's why I made the first post. My feeling is that it's lazy, pointless, and unproductive to say, "Uh, I think such and such happened at such and such a time" - when in 5 seconds you can say "The first recording of the post-1960s Jazztet happened in 1982." If after everyone has that baseline knowledge, someone wants to deal with a follow-up question, great: "I know the first reunion recording was in 1982. Did the group get together before then (without recording)?" Time or wherewithal? It's a website that anyone reading this site can immediately view. It's free. There are no logins or cookies. The effort is absolutely minimal - but yes, you do have to bother to click and read. However, it takes less time to look up the correct information than it does to reply with a vague or incorrect comment. And no, it's not obsessive - it's either right or wrong. Why spend the time being wrong when in seconds you can be right? The Internet is a vast and wonderful tool - more information is available to more people than ever in history. USE it! Next, you want nit-picky? Go around and tell everyone that the "family reunion" isn't a reunion because the original people went and got dead. Tell the new babies and brides and grooms to go home. No, I didn't think you wanted nit-picky. Mike

Why do I bother to document all this stuff if folks won't use the readily-available free resources? Just look at the discography on my website for all details of Jazztet reunions that have been preserved on tape - and if Michael Weiss knows of any documentation of his tour with the group, I'd love to know. If I'm not mistaken, this was the group that played at the Jazz Cafe in London on July 7, 1995. Mike

Mingus - Feb. 13, 1957 Roach 3/4 - March 18-21, 1957 But there are plenty of predecessors, Rollins Valse Hot - March 22, 1956; Monk Carolina Moon - May 30, 1952; Waller Jitterbug Waltz - March 16, 1942; Benny Carter Waltzing The Blues - June 20, 1936, etc. Mike

Yeah, a band named "Eloe Omoe"? For the general population that's more obscure that Count Basic and Thelonious Monster, let alone T. J. Kirk. Mike

The "no" was for David's post, not yours, written simultaneous to mine. Mike

Ugh - yet another thing that promotes quantity over quality. We've got at least one poster who has over 600 posts in just over 2 weeks and still hasn't said anything worth reading. Talking to hear one's own voice shouldn't be rewarded. I would support an award for "least prolific and most profound". Mike

No, The Jazztet & John Lewis - JL arranged and conducted, but did not play. Issued on Argo, part of the recent Mosaic set. For detailed discography of The Jazztet (and Orchestra U.S.A. for that matter), see my website. Mike

Triple click selects paragraph - is this MS Word only? Mike

Cedar Walton has worked with Charles Davis several times - in the 1970s and 1980s on Walton albums, and most recently in 2002 on Davis's album "Blue Gardenia". For someone who was not in Walton's working group - Bob Berg, Clifford Jordan, Ralph Moore - I wouldn't say it's rare at all. In fact, Mobley and Walton only ever recorded together 7 times - three times under Mobley's name. Davis and Walton recorded together 6 times - and three of those were under Walton's name. I don't disagree with the "insurance" idea, but more information would be needed so we have something more than just speculation - maybe Davis was supposed to be the only horn and someone saw Mobley at the last minute and invited him - maybe.... Mike