Michael Fitzgerald

I think this was clarified elsewhere, but for the record, there is NO Jimmy Cleveland United Artists date. This was a long-standing error: copied from Down Beat by Walter Bruyninckx (the earlier Jepsen did NOT make the error and the Erik Raben update still has it correct) then copied from Bruyninckx by Tom Lord and then into the allmusic site. The date is actually Sliding Easy by Curtis Fuller. The current Bruyninckx and Lord CDROMs have finally corrected this. As of this moment, the dreaded allmusic site still has not. Mike

On the subject of low-A and low-B-flat baritones, actually, the low-B-flat is in particular demand because jazz ensemble (and indeed music for horns as opposed to strings) is written in flat keys, so the possibility of a ringing, resonant, lowest B-flat (concert D-flat) is much more appealing than the same note played on a low-A baritone. This information courtesy of Danny Bank. And, yes, if you're playing with a soul/funk band with electric guitars, having the low-A baritone is more useful. Horses for courses. Mike

I think I've got all the data I need already thanks to another generous soul. BTW, if anyone ever comes across this item for sale, I'm interested. Mike

Considering Burns's concern for historical accuracy in other photos used in the series, probably not. It seems doubtful. But I really can't say because you're asking me to remember something I saw once on TV over four years ago (and like most people I've talked to, I was falling asleep during it) and have been trying to forget ever since, then compare it to someplace I saw once..... Mike

I've been to the location on the Pennsylvania Turnpike in Bedford. It's a tricky place to navigate and I can easily see how someone could easily blow it, particularly with poor visibility. Mike

I say you offer the hair salon chicks the album cover (in return for putting up with your noise). Come on, all the guys in the band sitting in the seats under the big hairdryers? What do you say? Mike

Do you think all this (plus Bouncing With Bud and Along Came Betty, and one more unknown title?) is from the same date? The only Messengers Bouncing With Bud I know is the one where Bud sits in. Date: November 15, 1959 Location: Théâtre des Champs-Elysées, Paris, France Label: (television broadcast) Art Blakey (ldr), Wayne Shorter (ts), Lee Morgan (t), Walter Davis, Jr. (p), Jymie Merritt (b), Art Blakey (d) a. 01 Close Your Eyes (Bernice Petkere) RCA LP 12": 430054 - Paris Concert b. 02 What Know [aka Goldie] (Lee Morgan) RCA LP 12": 430054 - Paris Concert c. 03 Ray's Idea (Dizzy Gillespie, Walter 'Gil' Fuller) RCA LP 12": 430054 - Paris Concert d. 04 Lester Left Town (Wayne Shorter) RCA LP 12": 430054 - Paris Concert e. Blues March - 08:56 (Benny Golson) Moon CD: MCD 071-2 - Are You Real (1995) f. Are You Real - 10:31 (Benny Golson) Moon CD: MCD 071-2 - Are You Real (1995) g. A Night In Tunisia - 08:53 (Dizzy Gillespie, Frank Paparelli, Jon Hendricks) Moon CD: MCD 071-2 - Are You Real (1995) Mike

The RCA album has: Close Your Eyes Goldie (aka What Know) Ray's Idea Lester Left Town If I had a copy of what you've got I am sure I could identify the unknown tracks. Mike

I got a winner here! Statesmen of Jazz, rec. 12/20/94 Benny Waters (1/23/02) - 91 Clark Terry (12/14/20) - 74 Joe Wilder (2/22/22) - 72 Al Grey (6/6/25) - 69 Buddy Tate (2/22/13) - 81 Jane Jarvis (11/?/15) - 79 Claude Williams (2/22/08) - 86 Milt Hinton (6/23/10) - 83 Panama Francis (12/21/18) - 76 * Average = 711/9 = 79 I find it remarkable that three of these guys share the same birthday. Mike

Some of the same guys appeared on Lionel Hampton and the Golden Men of Jazz rec. June 11-13, 1991 when the ages were: Clark Terry (12/14/20) - 70 Sweets Edison (10/10/15) - 75 James Moody (3/26/25) - 66 Buddy Tate (2/22/13) - 78 Al Grey (6/6/25) - 66 Lionel Hampton (4/20/08) - 83 Hank Jones (7/31/18) - 72 Milt Hinton (6/23/10) 81 * Grady Tate (1/14/32) 59 (!) OK - average = 650/9 = 72.2 and this was nearly 15 years ago. Mike

If anyone has a copy of the Japanese-only Somethin' Else album "Face To Face" from 1989 I will be very interested in getting some additional details for the Renee Rosnes discography on my website. Thanks! Mike

http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Labels/parker.htm Mike

Jesus - what is not getting across here? Whether I have said material or not isn't the issue. Whether YOU see "nothing wrong" with sharing unreleased material isn't the issue. You have your own personal definition of "respecting the artist". Fine. Great. The artist's lawyers have their definition. Fine. Great. But when you say, "You can argue about copyrights all you want, but these sites were diligent in respecting copyright. They'd delete anything that had one," you are pretending that somehow the site was legit. It wasn't (at least not in the U.S. - I'm not going to address anywhere else that may have different laws). Now, you may not like the implication that you are a criminal when you exceed the posted speed limit, but that's how it is. Mike

I don't see how that follows. rmb is another jazz discussion forum. In the long-standing tradition of netiquette (if a decade or so can be long-standing) cross-posting is to be discouraged. You pick the most appropriate forum for your discussion and you conduct it there. That's where this particular thread started. If I want to read this, I go to rmb. It should have remained there. Mike

The only thing I'm disagreeing with is the idea of trying to rationalize things. I've driven faster than the posted speed limit on occasion. But I don't claim that I was in the right or that I should be entitled to do so. Mike

My point is that the discussion (such as it is) was on rmb - no need to drag it here. Mike

Oh please - let's not try to rationalize things with bringing up copyright. In the U.S., EVERYTHING has a copyright as soon as it's created. Whether it bears a little © or not. Unless the copyright owners sanctioned distributing the stuff on easytree, it was not legit in the U.S. Mike

Why is it necessary to drag inane topics from rmb to pollute things here? Besides, this topic has long been included in the FAQ for rmb - http://users.bestweb.net/~msnyder/rmbfaq.htm and a search on groups.google.com will turn up enough discussion for a lifetime. Must we endure redundant reruns? Mike

Just received this note (although I have never been an easytree member): --- Hello gals and guys, We're very sorry having to tell you that we had to shut down EZT forever just a couple of minutes ago. We got a call from our provider, they had received a few letters from a couple of lawyers. They requested EZT to be shut down immediately, otherwise we'd be sued. As you may imagine, we do not have the funds to fight a battle we most probably can't win anyway. We would like to thank everyone here for their contributions to EZT, one way or the other, for sharing the music, sharing an ideal, for all your mails, rants, praises... I'm sorry, I'm still too shocked to write on... maybe later I'll find some more words or my collegues will do... To say it with Joan Armatrading: We had fun, fun, fun, fun fun, fun, fun, fun we had fun -- while it lasted... --"Tall in the Saddle"-- You all take good care! jupiter2101, EZT Chief Mod

Just today received the newest Jane Ira Bloom CD. She is the latest to join the ArtistShare world. The album is titled Like Silver, Like Song and features Jamie Saft on keyboards & electronics; Mark Dresser on bass; and Bobby Previte on drums and electronic drums. Have not had a chance to listen yet. The CD also includes an mp3 version of the album (61 minutes). Her website is www.janeirabloom.com - although I don't see any mention of this album there. The accompanying press release says it's to be released on April 15, 2005. Mike

Apologies for the last minute notice - this film is airing in NYC on channel 13/WNET in about 3 minutes. Mike

Discographies list a live version of Thermopolae from Philadelphia, early 1948 and two more from June 1952, one from August 1952. Reportedly also Gregory Bemko, from the same Innovations concert as Reflections. Then a live City of Glass from 11/25/51 in Seattle, issued on Mark Records and another from 8/26/52 in Cincinnati, issued on Joyce, also on Natasha Imports. I don't have a specialized Kenton discography, so there may be more info there. Mike

Label M is no more, but looks like Dorn will be issuing the Left Bank stuff on Hyena records. The other Hubbard one (Fastball, from 1967) is due out tomorrow. It's a winner as well. Mike

Am I right in recalling the Prestige sessions in question were engineered by Richard Alderson? Was that his studio? Did it have a name? Can we look forward to a set of Prestige 4-bit CD remasters in "The RLA Series"?? Mike

I don't know what kind of absolutely perfect timing it is that April 3 is the birthday of Eric Kloss, but well, it is. Born 1949, so that's a happy 56th - would someone please report on the status of the donations? And I would hope that any response after receipt would be passed on here. Mike