AllenLowe

mmmmmmm........oats...........

if you can find it, the absolute best remastering of the 1923 piano solos (even better than John RT) are on a Folkways LP - they were mastered by Carl Seltzer, now deceased, who did a lot of work for that label as well as Rosetta - amazingly good sound -

it ain't jazz, but I really hate Hall and Oates - fake soul. If there was a dictionary entry for "white bozos," their picture would be used as an illustration -

also like the Eminey (not sure about the spelling) - especially the one that had the cheesy drum machine attached -

I love Cash, but I don't know if I could listen to Phoneix singing for 2+ hours -

though I always liked ? and the Mysterians - I'm a farfisa man -

well, I think it had to do with my earliest jazz interests - Ornette, Eric Dolphy - I went backwards from there into the 1920s and swing - so that was where I made the connection -

and Irving Townsend -

well, first of all, he took his name from both the trumpet player and that mean kid on the Little Rascals -

yes - Goddard Liberson, George Avakian, John Hammond -

and just to see if I can get Jim mad - I used to hate jazz organ; when I first started listening to jazz in about 1968 it drove me up the wall - but now I quite like it.

glad to see TroyK is in the spirit - and you should talk to Larry Kart, Troy, who wrote an interesting essay on why he does not like Bill Evans -

well, I'm not sure - for Columbia, jazz and classical were the prestige divisions - the idea was that these were musics with permanence and for the long-term - so it's just possible that they conceived of the sales issue a bit differently (yes, the music business has changed a lot in 50 years) -

and welcome, everyone, to the dark side...

aw c'mon, how about Kenny G?

as for Miles' technique, let's consider what Duke Ellington said about one of his trumpeters, Ray Nance - "sure, Ray only plays maybe 40 percent of the horn - but he plays that 40 percent like no one else"

well, not overpaid if you consider shelf life, and that his records (CDs) will keep selling for probably another 100 years, at least - as for his post-bop chops, listen to Live at Carnegie Hall, for one - and I heard Miles in 1969 and he was all over the horn, at all ranges - no faking here -

is that Butch Miles the drummer? I always rememebr seeing his record on the CP label, in the cutout bins many years ago -

"What I think happened at Columbia was that Miles was being paid like a rock star; without a hit, Miles was rich, probably very rich, by 1960." aside from Elvis, there really was little of what we consider to be "rock star" promotion in the 1950s. More likely he was being promoted like pop star, of which there were many, particuarly at Columbia - and without sales numbers, little of this is verifiable -

and I agree with you - the personal attack stuff is bad - and some people don't seem to be able to take disagreement without getting into that - my point in this thread is that one man's negativity is another's honest opinion - and Marcello, who has been annoyed with me in the past for disagreeing with some generally held opinions, felt the need here to insult some dead friends of mine - so none of us (including myself) should feel too virtuous about our knee-jerk responses to things (and people) we disagree with -

impossible - read Marcello's post previous to that response, and the ones from me that follow - you will understand -

Lee was great, and a major influence, but not like Miles - this might have changed if he'd lived longer, but who knows? As for execution, don't underestimate Miles - he could play anything he needed to play, and some of the early recordings which have led people to believe he had major technical prpblems are recordings made when he was having all kinds of drug problems - there are some live broadcases from the late 1940s, early 195os that will change your whole idea of Miles and execution - also, hear the record he made with Tadd Dameron in concert in Paris- there's a lot more to him than the studio records -

well - if Organnissimo is about an open discussion of our opinions on music and culture, than we cannot exclude discussion of the means and style of that expression - so this is certainly not outside of Organissimo's mission - certainly it's closer than the Farting thread or the naked-women-on-the-cover thread (both of which I enjoy) -

what it shows is that everybody hates negativity until they get the chance to go after someone they're pissed off at - in this case Marcello saw his opportunity and went for it - thank you again, Marcello - experiment over -

this thread is especially illuminating - when someone like Marcello, who has complained of my negativity, manages to insult not just me but two dead people to whom I was very close - thank you for proving my point, Marcello -