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When the 12 track thing is factored into the subscription, use 'em or lose 'em thing, that's where I start to have issue. At that point, it's starting to feel too much like being in a record club where you're charged every month regardless of if you order anything or not. I don't know. I'm there until my annual expires late October, but I really don't know if I'll re-up.

The eMusic titles are distributed by Audio Bee, whoever they are.

they'd do limited edition boxed sets of 45 rpms, of course. With missing labels, scratched vinyl and $25 a disc for the privilege.

Well, I got the 13th Floor Elevators Sign of the 3 eyed Man box in the mail today, but I bought it months ago. Umm...oh! I did order Artie Shaw 1949 today on recommendation from another thread.

http://wfiu.org/nightlights/bop-go-the-big-bands/ Linked from the BG show mentioned above.

Checking this out now. Just started a thread about BG from this period right here before I saw you'd done this show. Cool.

@BBS, that's a good question. I'm really kind of interested in it all. For example, I've been checking out some of Cozy Cole's small group recordings on Chronological Classics from around the same time period. Some of that stuff definitely has a swing to bop feel to it. And I've been a fan of the Rich band from this time. With the BG stuff, I find myself gravitating more towards the small group, but I've always thought Benny's best stuff was in a small group setting. I really dig big band bop when it's pulled off well though. I agree with your other posts about the airshots, from what I've heard, and I'd also say the V-Disc stuff is pretty smokin' as well. The Hucklebuck is pretty corny though. It's a shame that seems to be the easiest song from this period to hear as it scared me off BG's bop stuff for years. It was Benny's Bop on Hep that made me seriously reevaluate my decision to ignore this period. (I'd love to hear some more Stan Hasselgard as well, for that matter.) I've been meaning to check out some Herman from this period as well because I know he had some great players in his band. Same with Artie Shaw. I didn't know about the Dorseys though. I will have to check some of those out. (Checking out that CD at your link MartyJazz, thanks!) And now I'm off to check out Ghost of Miles' radio show on this very thing! How'd I miss that?

I have really been digging on the Benny Goodman "bop" recordings from the late 40s. Stuff like Undercurrent Blues and Benny's Bop on Hep is just really hitting me right. I don't know why. It's not full strength bop, it's not quite swing. Maybe it's Wardell? I really don't know, I only wish there was more of it. So, who's with me on this stuff? It seems like maybe this period isn't so well looked upon. At the very least, this stuff is a little more obscure. None of these recordings are especially easy to find these days. More importantly, where can I find more like it? Or is this just an anomaly and these BG records stand alone?

I used to enjoy the eMusic message boards as there were some good people on there sharing gems and general music talk. Now it's nothing but a feedback loop of outrage, speculation and misinformation. I understand that people are pissed about how this was handled, I am too. But, I wish that people would get it that the indie labels have been asking for more money for a long time and that's why the rates went up. You can propose whatever convoluted tiered download credit scheme you'd like, but the fact of the matter is, Sony or not, it's out of the question because the indie labels want more money. Even at the new rates, eMusic will be less than iTunes and Amazon, unless things are on sale at either of those places. Yes, I'll be paying more, but hopefully the labels and artists I want to support will be getting more as well. I don't know why I even bother bringing these things up over there because clearly it's more fun to hate the evil major labels/Sony/RIAA/etc., than to consider that maybe the indies were getting tired of getting really low rates from eMusic. (And I know we can debate if people would have made more selling more at the lower rates or potentially selling less at the newer ones. It's too early to tell, though I know the iTunes price increase seemed to backfire. It's kind of a moot point though if more labels have been threatening to leave over the rates. That's really the label's problem now.) Sorry for the rant.

That's in their new FAQ. I'm not sure why this is such an issue, other than eMusic kind of sneaking it in there. eMusic and Amie St. are the only services I've ever heard of where you can download your tracks again anyway.

Agreed. Fantasy was doing great stuff at the time of the sale, and Concord put out what was in the pipeline, but then pulled the plug and went to slop. A pity we never got the third Coltrane Prestige box to finish the set. AH! I was wondering what happened to the third box! I could have sworn I read there was to be a third...and then the trail went cold. Real cold...I couldn't even find where I thought I read about it. I was beginning to think it was something I imagined. By the way...what was to be in it? Fearless Leader was his solo lead sessions, Interplay his sideman role...what else is there? Interplay was the co-led dates, the third would have been the sideman dates (Red Garland, Mal Waldron, Elmo Hope, Gene Ammons...). I'd have loved to see it happen, too! Oh, that makes sense. Yeah...I really LOVE the first two. Excellent sound, great books (interplay had annoying cd holders) but overall extremely attractive sets. So there's no chance of the third set??? I could have sworn the third set was coming later this year. I mean, I even recall seeing art and a title and everything. Maybe I'm hallucinating or it's just wishful thinking. I'm kind of surprised our European public domain friends haven't filled this void yet. I'll have to admit, if Concord didn't and some else did, I'd buy.

Wait, Sly's Woodstock appearance??? Nope, that's a new one. Sign me up for that, please!

New distributor. Happens often. Though you and I know it's the same album, the fact that The Orchard has the distro now means someone new is getting a piece of the pie. Tuff City, Night Train, Funky Delicacies and I think a couple of other associated labels were all part of this.

Sun Ra - Atlantis (impulse pressing) Anthony Braxton - Montreux Concerts (Arista cut out) Beatles - Rubber Soul (mono with a sticker on the shrinkwrap, never seen that and don't have a clean copy of this anyway) $50 something at Half Price. Decent, I guess.

And because of that, I've lost track of the number of times I've seen this album filed in the jazz section, especially at Half Price Books.

How did I not realize Deezer is accessible in the US? Listening to Together Again by the Benny Goodman Quartet (been on a major BG kick.)

RE: amount of money going to the labels and whatnot. I made a post on their board as a musician with independently released music for sale on eMusic. We get less than half the per track amount from eMusic as we get from iTunes or Amazon. But, we've made our music available there because I feel eMusic subscribers are more adventurous and with the lower rates more willing to take chances and, because it's a subscription service, I never felt we were in competition with the better returns at the per track stores. Our catalog is handled through TuneCore and I've never had an issue getting the money. If someone hasn't seen a dime it probably means they haven't sold anything or there's a bottleneck at whoever is distributing their music to eMusic. While I've heard many people complain about the amount eMusic pays out, I've never heard anyone complain about not getting paid. I think eMusic handled this thing very poorly. Reading between the lines of the few public statements representatives have made, I think they were in danger of having more indie labels pull out if they didn't raise their rates. The higher rates may have netted them Sony, but I think they were also a necessity to keep labels they have as well. Because they threw the rate changes in as an afterthought in the Sony announcement, the two events will be linked in most subscribers minds. I think the thing most people are missing because of the confusion is unless you have an attitude where you are willing to gamble getting more downloads at a lower rate over higher prices and fewer numbers, there really isn't much incentive for a label to put their music on eMusic when they're getting back less than half what they could get elsewhere. I'm glad to see people over here have a bit more realistic reaction to this than the mostly hysterical posts on eMusic's board. Yeah, they came as a blindside to me as well, and I'm really dissapointed that my supposedly locked in grandfathered plan is going away, but from the other side of things, I don't understand how they were able to keep things going for so long without losing more labels than they have.

Log in and check this link: https://www.emusic.com/account/notification.html For most people, the price increase is close to 50%! Considering I'm on eMusic because I really don't care about SonyBMG stuff, this might be a deal breaker for me.

Y'know, after I answered this, remembered one that I didn't get and the albums haven't shown up as individual releases: Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Orchestra. Man, I love the records of theirs I've found and probably should have jumped on the set, but I was literally living hand to mouth at the time. So it goes...

I hate to say it, but I've found it best to just forget about it and move on. Amazon and eBay/half.com get enough seller's fees from these vendors that they seem to completely ignore issues like this that are against their stated policies. That's really the only advise I can give you. You aren't going to get that set for the originally advertised price and you aren't going to get an apology from the seller or any action from half. It's frustrating and it's not right, but I've found it's not worth raising your blood pressure over.

I'll have to give a couple more spins before I can give a really good assessment. So far though, sounds like a nice mainstream 60s date. Wright gets some nice solos in and a couple of his tunes I quite liked. The bari player was pretty good as well, though he seemed to be having some reed issues.

I was just thinking about "The Tape Project" the other day. Is that thing still going? Anyone actually buying that stuff?

This was pretty much what I did years ago, although I started out between the cut out vinyl years and the used CD glut. I relied on the local library much more. They had, at the time, a huge jazz vinyl selection, including Mosaics and other expensive sets.

Yeah, I was going to say the same. iMovie is about the best simple video editing program out there. If your having troubles with iMovie, there's a load of tutorials in the program and on Apple's site that will walk you through the program. And to anyone thinking there's a more user friendly upgrade to iMovie, umm, no. The next step up in Apple's line is Final Cut which is less intuitive than iMovie by far. It's also much more powerful. However, as someone who used to edit video for a living, I'll take Final Cut Pro over Premier any day. Now Premier is non-user friendly.

Blue Train - MFSL Gold. The only reason I bought this was price. $2.50.