JETman

At least one New York team is holding up its end of the bargain! And although this may be the only time this year I get to say that, I have to say that it definitely is making my day!!! Hail Schteinbrenner.

Bored again, Allen? Go eat your kosher easter dinner!

The version with the original cover was reissued by Verve/Universal as part of the Verve Originals series, without the extra track included in the first cd reissue, in 2009: http://www.amazon.com/Dynasty-Dig-Stan-Getz/dp/B001NHZ2PW/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333895343&sr=1-1

With all the wonderful music you just purchased, is that really all that you have to say?

If you wanna hear a "correct" NY thang, might I suggest that you check out some David Binney, and stay away from the fucking Eric Alexanders of the world. K?

What about all of those Prestige blowing sessions where so many of our heroes "burned" for the sake of burning? That NY too? I think you're overthinking this. I may be biased, but the fact is, jazz as it existed in at least as far back as the 1930's would not be as revered by all y'all if it were not for that New York thang. Let's just say, I don't like the term. Not everything is so calculated, ya know? As a lifelong New Yawka, I've almost always found that the people that think they know the most about it, actually know the least.

But Glasper and Payton made "NY Jazz" and "Marketplace" records, and you don't seem to have a prob with either of those!!! And, wtf exactly is a NY jazz record? Why u b hatin'??? I know that jazz did not originate here, but without here, there b nowhere for all those talented cats to run to! Hear?

This discussion seems just a bit "too little, too late" to me. A guy like Kenny Garrett (who has a lot more going on than either of these guys, IMHO), gets ripped a new "jazzhole" everytime he releases a new cd because it is deemed more lighthearted and accessible than the average jazzhead would like to hear. It's a shame, really, because at one time he was good enough for Miles. I've seen him twice (once with Metheny and once with Pharoah), and he more than demonstrated skills out the wazoo. His new one, "Seeds From the Underground", is definitely a keeper, btw. But as usual, YMMV.

Thanks. FWIW, J&R currently has free shipping on $25+ and a bunch of RVGs @ $5.99. J&R was my jazz hang back in the day. At one time (definitely not anymore), they had the best selection and prices in NYC.

If the Rangers are at all motivated to win the President's trophy, THAT ain't gonna happen.

Still not the same business model. Apples & oranges. Mosaic has a corporate partner, a multiple item catalog that enables them to get better pricing on quantity items like printing, boxes, etc. Plus, if one item moves slower than expected, another one might move faster. It's not like Mosaic has just one product to offer and they got to make all their money back on that one item. Artist Share just provides the artists with a forum and tools like websites, electronic press kits, etc. No money, though. None. As I understand it, all actual production expenses are borne by the artists themselves, which is where they have to set a price point that think will allow them to recoup expenses. So of course Mosaic (established company) could offer a lower price point than Jim Hall (individual). This record business...it costs more than you think (and I hear Chuck already laughing and bellowing YOU HAVE NO IDEA ), and making your money back on a one-off project is anything but easy. I certainly hear what you're saying, but this begs the question: why did our own Mr. Lowe NOT find it necessary to charge $75 for a 3 cd set resulting from NEW studio sessions? Surely new old Jim Hall stuff is gonna sell more widely than Allen's, no offense intended, of course!

That's what I was saying. Like Mosaic, Hall does NOT have session production costs related to the 3 cd archival set. As a matter of fact, all costs associated with that release should at least fall in line with what Mosaic pays for leasing, notes, pressing, mixing/mastering, cost of materials (btw, it's not even known if this is an LP sized box), etc.

Mosaic doesn't have session-production costs, though. Those have long been paid off. Remember - the money you spend on an Artist Share project is not just for the CDs, packaging, etc. It's also for paying the musicians, engineers, studio costs, everything. LTB & I put in $500.00 on one of Monday Michiru's AS projects, pre-production. Wish it could have been 4-5 times that, because even with everything being "self-contained" these days, shit still costs money. She wanted to do more with horns, more with post-production, but the money was just not there. She still made a damn fine album, and if you didn't know better, you'd just think she was being "minimalist" in her production. But the business reality is that she did the most she could with what she had. That wasn't nearly as much an artistic choice as it was a financial necessity. So just keep this in mind - on most regular labels, somebody funds the date up front and recoups (or not) through sales and whatnot. With Artist Share, you the consumer fund the project up front, and what you recoup is product. And pride, if you represent like that. If you believe in the people and their music enough, pay the cost and be proud that you're not just buying CDs, you're financing record dates. Walk Tall, Mr. & Mrs. Big Shot Record Producers! Thanks for the explanation. What are the session production costs, though, for live sessions that took place 37 years ago? After all, Mosaic releases previously unreleased live recordings (see Sam Rivers Select), and they don't increase their price.

I know, it's difficult to fathom. Mosaic has pretty much set the bar for jazz box sets, and they only charge $17 per disc.

It consists of two separate pieces: -- a new quartet recording at Birdland with Greg Osby, Steve LaSpina and Joey Baron AND (this is the BIG surprise) -- a 3 cd box set containing 3+ hours of newly discovered, previously unreleased music from the "Jim Hall - Live!" sessions recorded at the Bourbon Street club in Toronto in 1975 Price for the box set is kind of steep at $75. Just wanted to see what others thought: http://www.artistshare.com/v4/Projects/Experience/7/431/1

Rangers complete season sweep over far inferior Flyers and lock up #1 seed in the East in the process. It doesn't get any better than this!

Yes, they are a Portuguese label after all

Very well said!

Well, I know that. But it is the article that talks about 'scandalous neglect' by the record companies, which is just exaggerated. Well, as far as the boxed sets go, in each case it took the care of a singular mind to re-release those albums. I'm not sure that qualifies as NON-neglect by the companies that originally issued these. Why so angry? You must know that many (if not most) of these types of articles contain a fair amount of hyperbole.

My Rangers show lots of potential. First time to 50 wins since the cup year.

is "too much sugar for a dime" currently in print? Article and Discogs/Amazon prices suggests not and I don't recall it being on the Mosaic (not a Columbia release). I stand ready to be corrected though... Enjoyed the article and the prospect of a new release is always welcome. London concert by Zooid last year was a masterclass in composition and group empathy "Too Much Sugar for a Dime" is NOT currently in print, and most of his discs are not either (except in the Mosaic and Black Saint boxes). It is a killer disc (one of the first ones I bought, and a sentimental favorite). I believe it was on Bill Laswell's label (Axiom?), and is well worth seeking out, IMHO. Not in print except in box sets? That's in print in my book. Before the inexpensive Black Saint box was released the individual CDs were mainly available. The Sony's too had a long run. Can anybody who is even half-interested claim that they have not managed to acquire most of this stuff quite cheaply over recent years? The story can't always be that every jazz musician is a martyr to record companies. What's with the martyr stuff? I know there are many on this bored who like to deify musicians. I am not one of them! Just the fax, man. All I was saying was that many of the INDIVIDUAL discs are not in print.

He's got the chops, and he can be the real deal when he wants to be. And Night Music showed that he has big ears. I agree; he respects the tradition. He's a big fan of Hemphill's and appeared on Berne's "Diminutive Mysteries", I believe. I saw him headline at Radio City in 1989 (Anita Baker opened), and even though his band was playing what a lot here my consider fluff, he was blowing his ass off.

is "too much sugar for a dime" currently in print? Article and Discogs/Amazon prices suggests not and I don't recall it being on the Mosaic (not a Columbia release). I stand ready to be corrected though... Enjoyed the article and the prospect of a new release is always welcome. London concert by Zooid last year was a masterclass in composition and group empathy "Too Much Sugar for a Dime" is NOT currently in print, and most of his discs are not either (except in the Mosaic and Black Saint boxes). It is a killer disc (one of the first ones I bought, and a sentimental favorite). I believe it was on Bill Laswell's label (Axiom?), and is well worth seeking out, IMHO.

That's the only one you will get. If you're really worried, you can email Pedro Costa (I think he's one of the owners, if not THE owner) at: pcosta@tremazul.com He's a really nice guy! FWIW, I live in New York (the closest North American port to Yurp), and I received my shipment in 8 days.

As mentioned previously, 1994. Eh? This forum didn't exist in 1994. Eh, but Jump Up did. Jump Up was out of print and now it's been re-issued. I never owned a copy before. I got that. I was just bustin' on ya. Great that you have it now. Enjoy!