David Ayers

I have to admit I'm on the fence over this myself. It's a big splash, I'd enjoy it, but would I enjoy all of it...

Ohhhh... Thanks!

How much of this is not covered by the two Capitols and the Uptown?

He hasn't posted in a while. Is he posting somewhere else these days, or what happened?

On the contrary. It's epochal. The old ones are now collector's pieces in their own right!

Having spent a few days in the company of the Rivers Mosaic, I began to wonder whether there was any chance of the remaining sessions coming out as a Conn. We now (finally) see Where is Brooklyn? completing the Don Cherry trilogy. But would it work for Sam? My guess is that the individual albums (A New Conception and Dimensions + Extensions) are a tad short and perhaps not 100% convincing (though good and interesting). However I did my sums and found that both sessions together came to 79m 22s. So can we expect a joint reissue along the lines of the Sonic Boom Conn? I think it would be a great way to give all the Sam Rivers BN output a continuing lease of life.

I notice jazzmatazz lists Here to Stay as an uncertain future (RVG?) reissue. About time I should think. I bought this years ago as a CC, as I did others, such as Trompeta Toccata. I've never understood why these particular records have stayed OOP for so long. Trompeta Toccata has been a TOCJ, a JRVG, is soon to be a TOCJ24, but in US and Europe it has been OOP for a decade. Some think it better than Una Mas, and Here to Stay is a good record too, I would have thought Wayne Shorter's presence made it very marketable. A lot of the CCs have come back as single CD reissues. I have put the list below as a reminder of what we've got, and of what we are still missing: First Collector Series Art Blakey Indestructible! Kenny Burrell Midnight Blue Donald Byrd Byrd in Hand Hoagy Carmichael Hoagy Sings Carmichael Paul Chambers Bass On Top Paul Chambers Chambers Music Kenny Dorham Una Mas Kenny Drew Undercurrent Johnny Griffin Introducing Herbie Hancock The Prisoner Herbie Hancock My Point of View Joe Henderson Our Thing Andrew Hill Black Fire Freddie Hubbard Open Sesame Freddie Hubbard Hub Cap Bobby Hutcherson Dialogue Bobby Hutcherson Oblique Thad Jones The Magnificent Duke Jordan Flight to Jordan Lambert, Hendricks & Ross The Swingers Jackie McLean Jackie's Bag Jackie McLean One Step Beyond Blue Mitchell The Thing To Do Hank Mobley The Turnaround Lee Morgan Delightfulee Horace Parlan Happy Frame Of Mind John Patton Blue John Duke Pearson Wahoo Ike Quebec Easy Living Horace Silver Serenade To a Soul Sister Lonnie Smith Think! Stanley Turrentine Joyride Stanley Turrentine (with the Three Sounds) Blue Hour McCoy Tyner Expansions Larry Young Unity Second Collector Series Art Blakey Ritual 46585 Lou Donaldson Quartet/Quintet/Sextet 81537 Lou Donaldson Lush Life 84254 Kenny Dorham Trompeta Toccata 84181 Freddie Hubbard Blue Spirits 46545 Freddie Hubbard Here to Stay 84135 Bobby Hutcherson Total Eclipse 84291 Bobby Hutcherson Happenings 46530 Elvin Jones Puttin' it All Together 84282 Jackie Mclean Tippin' the Scales 84427 Hank Mobley Far Away Lands 84425 Hank Mobley High Voltage 84273 Grachan Moncur Evolution 84153 James Moody New Sounds 84436 Lee Morgan The Rajah 84426 Sam Rivers Dimensions & Extensions 84261 Annie Ross Sings A Song with Mulligan 46852 Wayne Shorter Odyssey of Iska 84363 Horace Silver Finger Poppin' 84008 Horace Silver Doin' the Thing At the Village Gate 84076 Jimmy Smith House Party 46546 Cecil Taylor Conquistador 84260 Art Taylor A.T.'s Delight 84047 The Three Sounds Introducing the Three Sounds 46531 Stanley Turrentine Look Out 46543 Stanley Turrentine Comin' Your Way 84065 Mccoy Tyner Tender Moments 84275 Mccoy Tyner Time for Tyner 84275 Tony Williams Life Time 84180 Gerald Wilson Portraits 93414 Third Collector Series Art Blakey Like Someone in Love Kenny Drew Walkin'/Talkin' Gil Evans New Bottle, Old Wine Gil Evans Great Jazz Standards Babs Gonzales Weird Lullaby Jim Hall Jazz Guitar Andrew Hill Eternal Spirit Elmo Hope Quintet and Trio Elvin Jones Polycurrents Les McCann In New York Jackie McLean Demon's Dance Hank Mobley Another Workout Hank Mobley Roll Call Lee Morgan The Rumproller James Newton The African Flower Bill Perkins Richie Kamuca Tenors Head On Bill Potts Jazz Soul of Porgy & Bess Bud Powell Amazing Vol. 4 Time Waits Annie Ross/Zoot Sims A Gasser George Russell The African Game Horace Silver Six Pieces of Silver Three Sounds Babe's Blues Randy Weston Uhuru Afrika/high Life

I really dislike most of the box sets I have (Mosaic apart). Apart from the gimmicks (metal spine etc) it is the sheer complexity of finding all the information you need in the booklets that drives me mad. The track listing insert for Seven Steps is more use than the whole rest of the information. I seem to remember that the Mingus Atlantic set lacks track times (correct me if I am wrong). Information about personnel and original issue are often on different pages. I wish these things were designed with the user in mind.

Has anybody bought/auditioned this set yet? I don't know if I want to be the first...

You're going to have to tell us what it was! Our own anecdotes aren't going to sound very interesting if we don't say what record we were looking for. "I was looking for a record for a long time. I found it. The end." It's a mini adventure. Seriously, we'd all love to know - please share and don't be shy - I promise there isn't one person on this board who has not been on a similar quest for years if not decades...

All you have to do is beg and beg and beg and beg for five years and your wishes are suddenly granted.

I'm very fond of Reach Out! It's one that grows on you when others fade...

Good luck with the bike Ed! I rode a Trek 1200 for two years until it was demolished by an airline. Only problem was the wheels - the rear one gave out rather quickly - it may be those on the 1500 are better. I now ride a 5200 (no problem with the spiffing Bontrager wheels). Different world framewise but still the same good quality Ultegra components. I just completed the London Triathlon on it.

Those Strata Easts were sloshing around the system for a long time here in the UK - easy to find and cheap. Is there really so much stored demand for them? I think some of the titles exist as cheap Charly releases also, though I'm not sure 100% which is which.

Thanks for the info. I'm surprised - I had no idea. The Rough Trade version is definitely murky!

Are You Glad to be in America? was on Rough Trade and was my favorite of those I ever heard. The first Columbia was OK as a toned down (and gated!) version of the same sort of thing; Odyssey lost me - just too tame. I used to have the live CD on In + Out but sold it. Actually it was good - well recorded, very vivid 24 bit sound - but I'd moved on and didn't really listen to it any more. Tales of Captain Black is a bit studio bound but is another good vivid recording. I have the LP - it was also a CD from DIW. Worth hunting down, not least for presence of OC as well as Jamaaladeen Tacuma. It is certainly the most musically ambitious and is probably better than AYGTBIA, though not so typical due to the presence of strong personalities.

However compositions remain in copyright even when the actual sound recording does not. Royalties are owed to credited composers (who only lose copyright a fixed period after they die - if then). I wonder whether these composer royalties are paid by disconforme etc.? My impression is yes, but I could be wrong. CD-R copying also denies the music publisher (and therefore the composer or composition owner) revenue, as well as the owner of copyright in the sound recording (who *may* be paying a royalty to, at most, the session leader). On this board we emphasise the question of performer royalty a lot, but composer royalties are in general more financially significant. And don't forget that that the owner of the sound recording is likely to be taking *much* more from the deal than the performer in relation to these historic recordings.

Aaarghh! You don't want to know how much the Japanese imports cost me - especially after the Mexican Green one was snapped up by entrepreneurs almost immediately and then sold on eBay - at shall we say a rather exobitant price? - three years later - ouch! ← Tha Japanese ones are cute though! But if you aren't sentimental, there's just time to get over to ebay, maybe, before they devalue?

These are now available for pre-ordering at amazon.co.uk price £7.99 due August 8. Go!

Yes it is a pity. That festival seemed like a permanent fixture - let's hope Rotterdam makes as good a job of hosting it as Den Haag did!

Great news. Certainly, the sound on the Japanese CD version of 100% Proof was a bit disappointing (and I missed the CD of Mexican Green altogether). These reissues are going to be fantastic!

Thanks for the reviews guys! It is ten years since I went to the NSJ festival. I'm sorry to hear it is moving from Den Haag as I have been planning another visit for some future year. Well, I have never been to Rotterdam so that could be a new experience for me. What is the reason for the move to Rotterdam? I thought this festival was quite important for the city.

After a slip like that you risk being banned from the board....

After hearing the first disc, I'd say!