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Yeah, I'm disappointed to hear that. Maybe the jewel cases account for the doubled price ... : /

It should be illegal to sell those kinds of partial sets. I mean, I exaggerate but I've been disappointed a million times browing Mosaics and other box sets Amazon when I see an amazing price and click to find it's just discs (and usually just one!).

Always best to play this one LOUD.

Why is that tired? What endeavor in art or life can get anywhere or be worth a damn without the basics? It's tired because it's almost always applied incorrectly. It's often argued that these traits need to be foregrounded. I subscribe to the radical notion that swing and blues qualities can be implicit. Does George E. Lewis always "swing"? No. Is he "swinging"? Always. To jump to the present: does Taylor Ho Bynum always play the blues? No. But the blues is the root of his craft and I know this. What use would either of these players be to me or to the music if they just rehashed JJ Johnson and Kenny Dorham? But do they know and appreciate the music of these forebears? Again, I have no doubt. This is not a game of absolutes. If no one learned that from Bird or from Cecil or from Braxton or from John Zorn then I don't know what to say. And you're right who knows if KR was talking about the avant garde or not. But their very existence disproved his point, scant and incoherent as it is. So does, you know, the equally great mainstream jazz being made too.

His best on Novus for sure. The version of "Cliches" (duet w/ thumb piano) is stunning.

Am I missing something here? Seems to me this conversation is taking place in a very particular circle of mainstream, middle-aged jazz players with similar dispositions. Seems to me in fact that creative jazz is thriving like hell. Or does that not count? This is some nouveau moldy fig bullshit to me. These guys can cry all they want about how no one plays bebop anymore. But no respect for the tradition? Give me a motherfucking break. I could go all day listing off vibrant and creative young musicians, or the continuing advacements of the 1970s masters but what's the point. Jazz has been an expanding music from the very first note, and yet some people have never stopped deciding that the path is somehow finite. If all jazz had to offer me was more Kurt Rosenwinkles I'd give up. These guys depress me

The Parlan box has sold. I'll modify the thread since it was bumped, but I think those last two are a lost cause. Just as well, plenty to enjoy!

Found it. It has "In Memory of Jomo Kenyatta", "Patricia pts 1 & 2", and "PO in Cairo". I'll look out for vol. 2 but I can't find anything about it online. Does it even exist?

Thanks but I'm looking for vol 1. Maybe just the same as the first LP of the two?

One (more) copy of Steve Lacy/Steve Potts - Flim Flam (Hat Hut) on Amazon for $3.10 Not a box set but a great deal.

I just grabbed this record at a good price but didn't quite realize it was vol. 1 (1978) rather than the double LP which I guess didn't come out until 1985. Does someone have this and could I get a tracklisting? I could just wait until the record arrives but I'm too curious.

I always thought it would be a great idea for someone to do an album of Albert Ayler tunes in the style of Jimmy Giuffre. Until I heard Joe McPhee do it on Oleo ("Astral Spirits").

Can't speak for the rest of the West Wind catalogue, but the Braxton LP is and was thoroughly unauthorized. AB was extremely upset by it, and I think he and either Graham Locke or Brian Morton took to The Wire to urge people not to buy it. It's been 25 years or so now of course so it's less of a sore point, but that's the score on that one.

James Lincoln Collier touches on this in his Louis Armstrong: An American Genius, too. Larry's takedown of that text is very fine indeed, but Dan Morgenstern's is superb and hilarious as well. What a clown. link: http://books.google.com/books?id=GVWrw0dtuAMC&pg=PT145&lpg=PT145&dq=dan+morgenstern+james+lincoln+collier&source=bl&ots=ECoGbXko90&sig=zViMrcxslBz0CvyR8r4u2fE2FSQ&hl=en&ei=-45bTpXxGaXJsQLI9bW-DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Shipping will be $3 for one disc in the US; 1.00 for each additional. I have price-matched these items with Amazon. PayPal only. Carl Perkins - Introducing (Fresh Sound/Dootone) - $15 Walter Bishop, Jr. Trio - 1965 (OJC/Prestige) - $10 Count Basie - The Kansas City 7 (Impulse! Japan No Obi) - $10 [PM if you want more info] Oscar Peterson - Night Train (Verve ME) - $6 Bob Brookmeyer - Brookmeyer (Collectables) - $8 Jimmy Heath - Really Big! (Keepnews Collection/Riverside) - $6 Jimmy Heath & Brass - Swamp Seed (OJC/Riverside, sawcut) - $9 Stan Getz w/ Mulligan, Edison, Bellson, OP3 - Jazz Giants '58 (Verve Originals) - $5 Frank Rosolino - Free For All (OJC/Specialty), sawcut) - $5 Joe Newman Quintet - At Count Basie's - (Verve LPR) - $5 Elvin Jones - Elvin! (OJC/Riverside) - $6 Drew Gress - 7 Black Butterflies (Koch) - $7

That's very interesting. Thanks for posting.

Up.

Strange, I was thinking about making this very same thread ... I got to thinking about this the other day when I put on Walter Bishop Jr.'s Prestige trio date from 1965. I have heard him play with Miles, Jackie McLean and others, but for some reason I got the notion that he was a player in the line of Nichols, Waldron, Weston et al ... those Monk-ish hard-bop era players who brought an individual edge to the playing that kept it interesting. I found this was not the case. Which was not Walter Bishop's fault mind you, but it made me realize that I need there to be more than just melody and changes for me to appreciate piano trio music (at least in the p/b/d formation). I get this from players like Mal, Herbie Nichols, Don Pullen, Ahmad Jamal, Paul Bley, Marilynn Crispell. And I love Bill Evans, too. Beyond this, the music just feels like easy listening to me. Which I know it isn't, always. But I can't get that notion out of my head.

Disc V

Disc 2, Song Everlasting. This is one of the most consistently rewarding Selects.

Disc IV

Vienna Art Orchestra - From No Time to Ragtime (Hat Hut, 1983) The whole album is a marvel, but the admission is most surely paid by the Braxton piece.

Paul Chambers Mosaic for $16.27 USD from a UK seller. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paul-Chambers-Mosaic-Select-CD-2004-/300591949113?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL&hash=item45fcad2539#ht_500wt_1156 They also moved a Randy Weston for-- get this-- $2.07.

Any idea what Vol. 5 will look like? Onto the likes of Sun Ship, Transition, Interstellar Space and First Meditations?

Onto John Carter - Dance of the Love Ghosts (Grammavision, 1986)