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"King Jazz" ? I only remember an Italian semi-bootleg label "Kings of Jazz" which were subtitled as "At his Rare of all Rarest Performances". They usually was broadcasts from Birdland, like a set of Miles with Rollins and JJ., and one other with Miles and Stan Getz, and there was also an Art Blakey live, that´s what I had, they were cheap and you had some live music sound if you could stand the not so good sound quality. It´s possible that they had old time jazz also, but I had only those mentioned LPs.

The Monk Quartet live with Johnny Griffin: I got the two CDs some years ago from my wife. The Coverart of Misterioso is quite funny, my wife said, it´s "Hamletean" (obviously referring the the spare scene decorations on pieces written by Shakespeare). The "Underground" I think I never heard, as I think I don´t have the CBS albums, it seems that they were quite short-lived. There was one double LP who sampled some of the tracks of the CBS albums, that´s all that was available in the late 70´s . You might find the Prestige and maybe Riverside LPs, but not the CBS. ot seems that lot of the CBS stuff was not more again in their catalogue as they focussed more on rock music. You could find all the electric Miles albums, but not the old "Milestones" for example.....

Until I got the album with this fine cover, my only source was a Bellaphone "Jazz Tracks" album which had the whole small combo set on Side A. Well , a MUST for an eager bebop-student as I was in my teens. So fast, Koko, Dizzy Atmosphere, I think "Confirmation" and Groovin High as medium tempos. That´s were you learned by listening to those giants. But the drummer Joe Harris was more a big band drummer than a small combo drummer, and I had the impressions that on the ultra fast pieces he somehow struggles. John Lewis great as he is, also was more comfortable on medium tempos. When I bought the album you have posted, the Big Band stuff is fine, but I think other records of the Big Band had a better sound, like the "Pasadena Concert" or the new discovered "Spotlight Big Band" . At least I had an idea how it could have been in those days when I still was not born....at least when Dizzy had formed an All Star Big Band for his 70th Birthday tour, they played all that 40´s stuff, all them tunes like Manteca, Things to Come, Good Bait and so on.....

I think I have it, but I remember the cover more than the music. Or, wait a minute: That kind of religious hymn only for the horns at the beginning? Some "Well You Needn´t" with Hawk on tenor, is that right ? And well the sound of Gigi Gryce. IMHO he was a great composer first of all, while his sound was not the greatest.

playin´ mo´ and better !

Such a great list of performers ! I only saw Ricky Ford and Jack Walrath twice when they were the front line of the Mingus group from 1976-77 (with Danny Mixon in 76 and Bob Neloms in 77 as the only personnel change). Walrath and Ford were a dream team and they really blew on those gigs but where underrecorded on the a bit dull studio albums of the time. When we will finally get some CDs of live concerts of those groups, there is so many discoveries now, Donald Byrd 1973, Dexter Gordon in Paris 1978, all those NorthSea Festival discoveries and those "Onkel Pö" discoveries, but Mingus ??????

It is one of my favourite Hanckock albums, and Joe Henderson is just incredible. If I remember right, the first tune is slightly based on the chords of "Darn that Dream".....

Wonderful, I love it. I´m so glad I could see Mr. Sanders live on several occasions. He was one of my earliest favourites. Coltrane´s "At Village Vanguard AGAIN" was my first listening experience of Sander´s tenor, and "At the East" was my first Sanders LP decades ago. "Karma" I got some years ago, my wife had bought it for me.

Thank you very much ! You are right !

Maybe I would have liked it less if I had not been already "there" and into it at that time. See, fellow kids from my school class together with me, we would go into that thing during intermissions "let´s play Miles Davis" and we would use cheap sunglasses, bend down and imitate the wah wah sound of the trumpet and some with some "rhythm feeling" would do rhythm patterns on the desks of the classroom and some guy would imitate the sound of a funky electric bass and stand in the position of a bass guitar player...... until the Prof. would come into the classroom and shout 'RUHE !!!" So, this album was kinda cult-status then, it came out while Miles was coming to Vienna in 1973. So I don´t rate them, they are part of my own "history"..... I like the Ife, I like that other groove on most part of side A, that kind of funky bluesy thing in Eb, and that groove in Bb that reminds me of the next album "Agartha" which again was a cult-status for us (we didn´t have the Dark Magus and the Pangheea, since they were CBS Sony and not available at the Viennese record shops ). I had most of the stuff on a red cover Italian LP in the 70´s. "Here is Miles Davis at his rare of all rarest performances". Well, I love it, it´s first rate bop with all them tunes like Half Nelson, Squirrel, Move and so on. And I remember on side B there is Eddy Lockjaw Davis too, and sounds very nice. Well it´s one of the smokey sounding Birdland broadcasts like the Parker live records, the Bud Powell and Fats Navarro records and all that. It was very fine for me to learn to "play bop".....

I love it and I think I first had heard it as a double LP. I´m not so happy with the two separate CD´s I have, since there are so many alternate takes of the same tune. I know, some are happy to have all alternate takes, but I prefer to hear the tunes one after the other. But the music is great. Al Haig is also really great here, especially on the ballads, and the 1953 stuff I think was some of the last recording of Gray. It has a stranger sound, especially due to Teddy Charles, who sounds very interesting on many of his 1950´s recordings. But the best Wardell Gray I ever heard is on the Parker LP "Happy Bird". His solo on "Scrapple" is incredible.

I like all those Savoy recordings of the 40´s . In the 70´s there was those double LPs, a main guide for me to listen to the Masters of the 40´s , like the 'CharlieParker Master Takes, the Billy Eckstine band with all them stars....., and the single LPs of Fats Navarro, Dexter Gordon , J.J. Johnson. Byas was one of the great masters. Yeah I bought it shortly after it came out. Really a strange combination those two. Some of the music is fine, but not everything. I prefer to hear them in separate groups. I saw Chet Baker for the last time late in 1987, just a few months before he died, and it was the best Chet Baker I ever had heard.....

Well the sound is "so so". I must admit I have not listened to it lately, lack of time, but in my case I was at least pleased to hear the drums really loud. The electric piano maybe is too "übersteuert" don´t know how you say in English. About Chick Corea with Miles, I like it a bit more controlled, like on "Silent Way". There are too many atonal outbursts for long solos, I prefer that atonality more when I listen to Cecil Taylor, or at least on acoustic. The Fender is more a "funky" instrument, or for a bit more "laid back" straight ahead stuff, but it sounds funny if you play "free" on it. The music on it still has a lot of straight ahead swing, I think one tune from Bitches Brew was on it, I think "Miles Runs the Voodoo Down" is on it, others are the old "Milestones" or "NO Blues" stuff like that. I´d listen to it again just those days, but now I have to play myself and don´t have so much time .

Was this his last live playing. I didn´t see them then, since beginning from late 1992 I retired for 20 years (didn´t play in public 20 years). But if I remember right, I still had subscribed Jazz Podium in the early 90´s and the review was that Giuffree already had difficulties to play due to Parkinson desease. As I said, I "discovered" him only thru the Graz CD I got from my wife. I also think he did some kind of workshop once here in Viena at some jazz conservatory and it was more about ensemble playing, some written stuff, and that he was very profesorial, not jazzmusician-like as you might supose.

Thank you @HutchFan for that great project and thank you for inviting us to make our own suggestions. Well the early 80´s was some good time for jazz. Living Legends were still alive or in one case had a comeback after long retirement.... Younger Artists had a lot of work to do and record . My suggestions would have been. MILES DAVIS his first two albums "Man with the Horn" and "We Want Miles" J.J. Johnson "Pinnacles" Woody Shaw mostly the group with Mulgrew Miller, Steve Turré ...... Jackie McLean - McTyner "It´s about Time" on BN Archie Shepp 1985 in San Francisco Ornette Coleman "Virgin Beauty" Dexter Gordon "Gotham City" Sonny Rollins anything on Milestone McCoy Tyner anything on Milestones especially "Horizon" and "4 Quartets" Art Blakey that good group with Donald Harrison , Terence Blanchard and Mulgrew Miller, Dizzy Gillespie "Montreux 1981" the one with Milt Jackson and James Moody Max Roach Double Quartet "Easy Winners" Thats some of the stuff I collected then and still enjoy...... You must know I was INTO it: The Musicians I admired still were alive, and I heard them on Festivals and all that And I played acoustic jazz with some name musicians although I was just in my early Twens in the early 80´s , and than for many years a funk band until I returned to acoustic..... , so I was INTO the stuff as a listener and player and what I have I had bought then.

I have some Miles live bootlegs I think. The first might have been the italian Kings of Jazz record of Miles at Birdland 1951 with Rolliins and J.J, and also from that Label a "Miles Davis-Stan Getz" also from Birdland 1950, and years later on another italian label "The Last Bop Session" also from 1950 at Birdland, from the same date as the last Bird-Bud-Fats live at Birdland..... From the "Lost Quintet" I think I have one Bootleg "At the Blue Coronet" from around the time of "Silent Way" , with Chick, Wayne, Dave Holland, Jack De Johnette. And a Bootleg from Vienna 1973 at Stadthalle, but this was just for re-listenig since it was an event back then in my schooldays in my town.

I was listening to the "Graz" which my wife bought for me 2 oder 3 years ago. It was her choice and she simply said, she saw the cover and that it was written "live" and thought it might be interesting for me. Well and indeed, I never had had my focus on Jimmy Giuffree or much white cool jazz in my live, but than I liked it and spinned it quite often. But I must admit, without the choice from my wife, I maybe wouldn´t even have had it.....

Hello Friends. Of course I know the tune though I never played it myself. Sure I could play it just from memory like it happens if the leader calls a tune and you never had played it by yourself and just play it out of memories, but during the last year I invested more time in trying to re-learn to read a sheet, at least if I already know the tune. It´s quite helpful because even if I may be a very lousy reader, I have something like a "photografic memory" . I heard some guys doin "Nica´s Dream" and thought it would be good to have a glance at it at home before goin out and eventually have to play it. But on sheet music when I wanted to buy the tune, I got an answer that "the product cannot be delivered in my country" Now what´s that shit ? I just wanted to buy the file for pdf, not more, I dont want to get the musicians or the instruments delivered to Austria 😄. How stupid is this ? So dear colleages, if someone would be so nice if he has the lead (for C instruments please ).......?

Well, the first part of the story, I mean how they got to know each other and how she tried to organize his live, that sounds very much like all them "Laurie Peppers, Chan Parkers, Jo Gelbards, Buttercup Powells" and all those women who were "struck to a junkie jazzman" , or Maxine Gregg, who first had a young junkey trumpeter and than an old alcoholic saxophonist..... Maybe I was grewn up with another mentality. If you don´t stand then man for your woman and protect HER, well I can´t figure out stuff like that, a woman who swallows all that shit the guy does, clean up the house if he pukes after a drinking party with "friends", bringing him aspirine the next morning and shit......, but maybe I just never screamed over women with "mother instincts" who treat their man like a wicked teenager who just got drunk after the first after school party.......

I had the impression that the Kindle is quite heavy. It may be good to read. I need eyeglasses if I read. But the "book" is just heavy in my hands, it is not comfortable, and somehow I never got used to handle it, I´m not really into electronics. We always order our books, jazz books from where I find them, and beletristica online from România mostly......

Yeah and a very fine group. I have an album also in Japan, but maybe a bit earlier and with Billy Higgins on drums, but it´s also George Cables and Tony Dumas, a great bass player.

I must check out if I can find a copy of the paper version. At least I´d like to read again those chapters or passages that seemed to be interesting for me. If I remember there was a bit too much about all his psychiatric hospital stays and medical records. But it might be interesting to read some stuff out of it, especially I think Mr. Carl Smith had his own theories about Bud´s time in Paris and his return to the States, not like Francis Paudras, who exagerated the importance of his friendship with Bud, at least that´s how I think it was. He misdated recordings as being earlier than they were, just to tell that he had such a long friendship with Bud, and he tends to the romantic side of the story. It can´t be like that. A music lover from the more burgois background and an adict artist in trouble, it is not that way it does not "work". And maybe he was naive also as he thought that Goodstein had called Bud back to NY just out of love and admiration, it was a business thing that didn´t work for him so he dropt him....

The trouble I have is that I had ordered it as a Kindle Book when it came out, I bought that Kindle thing only for this book, I managed to read it, but later I heard theres a paper edition too, but I didn´t buy it, since I thought eventually I re-read passages of the Kindle, but I just can´t stand reading a book if it´s not a paper book .

I also would have choosen Junior Mance trio. Festivals sometimes was a mess. Especially North Sea where so many good artists played at the same time in different halls. I had that experience once in 1985 at Hollabrunn Festival. For the same time there was Jackie McLean sextet in hall A, Lou Donaldson quartet in Hall B, and Pharoah Sanders quartet in Hall C, so I had to split the performances to see all them three.