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Sounds like a great personnel. When was it made ? I heard that Hubbard once made an album for Timeless at Bolleman´s studio in Monster, Netherlands. "Temptation" sound like a tune that would be worth tryin´ out. The only version I heard is on a not so interesting Charlie Parker Big Band record for Verve. There it sounds like one of those bombastic studio bands with brass and string, like for a kind of early 50´s LA movie....., not really a jazz context. And Bird quotes it in his solo on Anthropology on some 50´s live at Birdland broadcast.

I have this too, I was quite astonished, that Mintons still existed in the 60´s. I had some Charlie Christian 1941 Mintons, but I think nothing else from that joint between early fourties and early sixties. Grant Green and Horace Parlan are especially great here. Is this the album Philly J.J did in UK ? With a lot of great british player ? I have that album, but it seems to have another cover, maybe the older Black Lion covers, with white cover and just a little photo in the middle. From that series, besides the Philly J.J. album I think I have a Dexter Gordon at Montmatre, a Bud Powell "The Invisible Gage", and a Don Byas "Anthropology". They look like they were printed in the late 60´s or early 70´s.

I also spinned that recently (I have it on USB in my car) and I remember that I had bought it in the 70´s. What I didn´t understand then and don´t understand now is, why it´s titled "at Basin Street". It is not a live recording, it is a studio recording. I also remember my first impression of hearing the younger brother of Bud on piano. On faster tunes he sounds like a copy of Bud, but it seems he didn´t have the same tehnique and musical imaginations. It´s also strange that it has only Max on the cover, but Cliff and Max were co-leaders. I can refer only to the Philly J.J. album, since the other I don´t know and have a personal difficulty with ECM records, with two exceptions : Lieb´s "Outlook Farm" and "Drum Ode". The Philly J.J. album I would like to hear again, but those Galaxy albums were so short lived, if you didn´t buy them when they came out, you lost it. If I remember right, there was different personnel on that album and I think there was also some Dexter Gordon on it.

I remember this record as one of the most easy listening Ornette since it´s mostly straight ahead. I was astonished then, since the only other OC I had heard was "Empty Foxhole" and "Crisis" which I also love very very much.

Boston must have had a lot of attraction for Bird in the early Fifties , that´s my impression. I remember there was some old LP with red cover from the 70´s on some of those cheaper labels Bellaphone or Musidisc that was titled "The Happy Bird" and it was one of my favourites, above all for the great contributions of Wardell Gray too. And it seems there was another record on which Red Garland was the piano player, very nice. In my early days I had to chance to play with an US saxophonist and when I drove him to my place where we did a little rehearsal for the gig and he saw the streets of Vienna he said "nice Town, reminds me of Boston, fancy buldings....."

I think I saw him only with the Jazz Messengers about in the late 70´s , that band with Valery Ponomarev, the russian trumpet player. I think it was that band that brought Blakey back to more action and top billing. I think the earlier part of the 70´s was not such a good period for the band or it was the lack of interest of acoustic jazz then.......

I remember well when Water Babies came out, it must have been in the 70´s and it had a pop art cover very similar to the albums "On the Corner" or "In Concert", so we thought its an album of then contemporanous stuff and were a bit astonished when we heard a late sixties music with more straight ahead jazz. It sounded good, like the then "old" sixties albums, but we were mislead by the cover art. But why did they put a photo of 1980´s Miles on this edition, this again might let people think it is a 1980´s record. I think the biggest sorrow of us folks then in the late 70´s was "when or if Miles would come back and play". I think in 1979 there was even a rumour that he will do a tour. This was the time when those 3 LP sets with before unissued track came out, I think it was called "Circle in the Round" but I think I didn´t have that, especially when I saw it´s more like a sampler starting with stuff from the 50´s .....

I think I have mentioned it recently. Some said they are not happy with it, but I remember very well when it came out and had "cult status" over here. I had used a lot of my pocket money to buy a japanese 2 double album . It came out about the time when Miles was touring Europe, gut then his band was different, he didn´t have all them exotic instruments like tabla or sitar anymore, but had a fantastic band with Dave Liebman, Al Foster, Mike Henderson, Reggie Lucas Pete Cosey. That was really a great unit. I have that cover with Don Cherry with a strange flute on it, which doesn´t fit the the music that actually was played. This record was on the then famous french "America" label, that had most of the Mingus albums too. But the reason I had bought it was only Coleman and Cherryl, I think the piano is not really audible, you hear a glimpse of it on "I remember Harlem" which seemed to be Bley´s feature. But I think you don´t hear much of the piano. the most astonishing thing for us youngsters then was, that they play that old Parker Number "Klaktoveed......." which I think that Bird did only on the record, I don´t think it was in the repertory of the touring band. Blessing and "Free" is also great as I remember. I still was a boy and very much into progressive jazz like the gang I hanged out with. This I think was the most "conservative" Ornette Thing ever, practically a "swing record" as we would definete it in the early 70´s .

Yeah, I think I have that too, but I have a separate box for "CDs" that don´t have an official cover and I think those have very little written info. I heard it once at home and as a fan of good drumming I was exited and delighted by what Roy Haynes does. It´s interesting that Haynes sounds much more subdued on that famous "Modernists 1949 BN album with Bud, Sonny and Fats. I prefer the drums much louder. but I saw Roy Haynes only one time live, and this was in the 2000s already, but I would have expected more drum solos on it and more "action". As I remember, that Quartet, maybe titled "Fountain of Youth" was quite a tame thing, mostly standards and not much happenin.

Thanks for sharing it with us. Yeah, that´s it and wonderful players. Everbody plays great on this, the tenorists each has his own style. I have not heard that tune until summer this year, when a British tenorsaxophonist (Sam Knight) played a two tenor gig here in Viena with Austrian tenorist Ray Aichinger . They played "Hey Lock" in the first set and I liked it very much. In the second set I was invited to sit in and then it was even a 3 tenors thing, since the third tenorist was no one less than the great European tenor player Roman Schwaller. Ocasions like that one, especially that special night brought me "back" after years of silence and I´m grateful for that, and never will say else than that I thank those men so much.

Best track ? "Hey Lock" done by Griffin and Jaws, I love the tune and the structure of it, A sections based on Body and Soul, B section descending chords similar to the A part of "Lover".......

The legendary Johnny Griffin - Eddie Lockjaw Davis sessions ! 4 CDs. I got it from my wife for my birthday. Needless to say I saw both of them on many many ocasions. Both in clubs and in concerts. My wife was with me on the time I saw Griffin live, it must have been around 2005. Naturally she hadn´t seen "Jaws" , she wasn´t born when I used to see him. Each of them fascinates me. Griffin is more post bop , Jaws is more a kind of late swing style that was his trademark. I think each of them are among the musicians you could recognize most easily on blindfold tests. The rhythm section with Mance, Gales, Riley is superb. The Monk tunes are wonderful, and there is one Jaws original I like particularly: "Hey Lock". From first listening the A sections are based on the changes of Body and Soul , with a bridge of descending chords......really a great thing, really a fine composition.....

I had the Blue Note LA-Series paperbag design covered double album of Fats Navarro with his BN-Recordings from 1947-49 (Dameron´s Onyx-Band and Roost Band, the Boptet with Maggie, and the Bud Powell date). I think on the CD that I bought when it came out, there was also an unissued tune with Kenny Haggood voc,. The Capitol tunes were new to me, it seems that they were not out on record when I got acquainted with Fats Navarro. Same about the very interesting "Stealin´ Apples" with Wardell Gray in a Benny Goodman small group track. The only thing, I could not really stand the vocal on "Casbah", it just got on my nerves that piercing voice.....

If I remember right, one of the review, I think it was in Podium, was referring to his difficulties to mangage to get thru and that it was quite a sad experience. I also have read, that Giuffre once, also towards the end of his career did a master class, or a master seminar at some music school here in Vienna. But it was more about playing a piece of written music, not really related to improvised jazz, while the classic Giuffre - Bley-Swallow was a master example of another kind of freely improvised avantgarde jazz, unknow to me until my wife bought me that "Live in Graz" stuff on Hat Hut Records.

and.... did you have a look ?

"King Jazz" ? I only remember an Italian semi-bootleg label "Kings of Jazz" which were subtitled as "At his Rare of all Rarest Performances". They usually was broadcasts from Birdland, like a set of Miles with Rollins and JJ., and one other with Miles and Stan Getz, and there was also an Art Blakey live, that´s what I had, they were cheap and you had some live music sound if you could stand the not so good sound quality. It´s possible that they had old time jazz also, but I had only those mentioned LPs.

The Monk Quartet live with Johnny Griffin: I got the two CDs some years ago from my wife. The Coverart of Misterioso is quite funny, my wife said, it´s "Hamletean" (obviously referring the the spare scene decorations on pieces written by Shakespeare). The "Underground" I think I never heard, as I think I don´t have the CBS albums, it seems that they were quite short-lived. There was one double LP who sampled some of the tracks of the CBS albums, that´s all that was available in the late 70´s . You might find the Prestige and maybe Riverside LPs, but not the CBS. ot seems that lot of the CBS stuff was not more again in their catalogue as they focussed more on rock music. You could find all the electric Miles albums, but not the old "Milestones" for example.....

Until I got the album with this fine cover, my only source was a Bellaphone "Jazz Tracks" album which had the whole small combo set on Side A. Well , a MUST for an eager bebop-student as I was in my teens. So fast, Koko, Dizzy Atmosphere, I think "Confirmation" and Groovin High as medium tempos. That´s were you learned by listening to those giants. But the drummer Joe Harris was more a big band drummer than a small combo drummer, and I had the impressions that on the ultra fast pieces he somehow struggles. John Lewis great as he is, also was more comfortable on medium tempos. When I bought the album you have posted, the Big Band stuff is fine, but I think other records of the Big Band had a better sound, like the "Pasadena Concert" or the new discovered "Spotlight Big Band" . At least I had an idea how it could have been in those days when I still was not born....at least when Dizzy had formed an All Star Big Band for his 70th Birthday tour, they played all that 40´s stuff, all them tunes like Manteca, Things to Come, Good Bait and so on.....

I think I have it, but I remember the cover more than the music. Or, wait a minute: That kind of religious hymn only for the horns at the beginning? Some "Well You Needn´t" with Hawk on tenor, is that right ? And well the sound of Gigi Gryce. IMHO he was a great composer first of all, while his sound was not the greatest.

playin´ mo´ and better !

Such a great list of performers ! I only saw Ricky Ford and Jack Walrath twice when they were the front line of the Mingus group from 1976-77 (with Danny Mixon in 76 and Bob Neloms in 77 as the only personnel change). Walrath and Ford were a dream team and they really blew on those gigs but where underrecorded on the a bit dull studio albums of the time. When we will finally get some CDs of live concerts of those groups, there is so many discoveries now, Donald Byrd 1973, Dexter Gordon in Paris 1978, all those NorthSea Festival discoveries and those "Onkel Pö" discoveries, but Mingus ??????

It is one of my favourite Hanckock albums, and Joe Henderson is just incredible. If I remember right, the first tune is slightly based on the chords of "Darn that Dream".....

Wonderful, I love it. I´m so glad I could see Mr. Sanders live on several occasions. He was one of my earliest favourites. Coltrane´s "At Village Vanguard AGAIN" was my first listening experience of Sander´s tenor, and "At the East" was my first Sanders LP decades ago. "Karma" I got some years ago, my wife had bought it for me.

Thank you very much ! You are right !

Maybe I would have liked it less if I had not been already "there" and into it at that time. See, fellow kids from my school class together with me, we would go into that thing during intermissions "let´s play Miles Davis" and we would use cheap sunglasses, bend down and imitate the wah wah sound of the trumpet and some with some "rhythm feeling" would do rhythm patterns on the desks of the classroom and some guy would imitate the sound of a funky electric bass and stand in the position of a bass guitar player...... until the Prof. would come into the classroom and shout 'RUHE !!!" So, this album was kinda cult-status then, it came out while Miles was coming to Vienna in 1973. So I don´t rate them, they are part of my own "history"..... I like the Ife, I like that other groove on most part of side A, that kind of funky bluesy thing in Eb, and that groove in Bb that reminds me of the next album "Agartha" which again was a cult-status for us (we didn´t have the Dark Magus and the Pangheea, since they were CBS Sony and not available at the Viennese record shops ). I had most of the stuff on a red cover Italian LP in the 70´s. "Here is Miles Davis at his rare of all rarest performances". Well, I love it, it´s first rate bop with all them tunes like Half Nelson, Squirrel, Move and so on. And I remember on side B there is Eddy Lockjaw Davis too, and sounds very nice. Well it´s one of the smokey sounding Birdland broadcasts like the Parker live records, the Bud Powell and Fats Navarro records and all that. It was very fine for me to learn to "play bop".....