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Strange but true: I didn´t know about "Karma" before 2013, when I heard him perform "The Creator Has a Master Plan" and told my wife about it. And one of my birthday presents was the Karma CD. Well for my wife, the beginning of the song was okay for her, but she left the room and closed the door when the free passages started 😄

He sounds much better on this occasion than the video from summer. Really astonishing. But why did they let him sit alone on stage for so long time ? He still has astonishing power from the moment he blows his horn and listens to his fellow musicians, but seems to have that really lost and vacant look on his face while not playing. How he sits, the position of his head and his look reminds me so much of a cover photo of Bud Powell. By the way: This is on a Paris Studio album, but not the original cover, and I´m sure it was made later than his Paris sojourn. Maybe at Carnegie or Townhall in 1965 ?

When I was for the first time in Turkey in the mid 80´s (it was still comfortable, not so many hotels like now), I was quite astonished how many younger people love jazz. The simple early "try" of a holiday resort with some spartanical constructed "bungalows" had a big hole in the wall were we slipped out and there was a little improvised "bar" for locals, where we´d go and the guys were eager to talk jazz with us. One of them knew Mr. İlhan Mimaroğlu personally. He had a house in that area. Also Ahmed Ertegün had a big house there. And in that wonderful small town "Bodrum" was a mini-jazzclub with all them great albums, Trane, Rollins, and at that early time of CDs it had CD only and the best equipment for that time. Really astonishing in a relative poor country as it was then. They urged us to come to play, they wanted to organize a festival for the following year, but it didn´t happen, and the logistics would have been a mess...... My "new to me" faves of this year was not necessarly jazz records since I don´t have that much time to spin them, and in my case my favourites were new, young musicians, who attended jam sessions at the wonderful Viena jazz club "zwe". Most of them are students at the important jazz schools around here and some of them are really hot and it was a pleasure to get to know them and play with them. The most astonishing "discovery" I had was in summer, when quite "out of nowhere" an alto player came down with his saxophone. He was very very heavy, I think Fats Navarro would have been slim compared to him, and I invited him on stage and oh oh, he was FANTASTIC. His sound reminded me of Jackie McLean and also his approach to the tunes. And like McLean he would start let´s say a bop tune in a more conventional manner with that wonderful "sharp" tone and would burst out, in a highly emotional way. It was heaven on earth to have this unknown guy on stage. We all hurried up to him during intermission and asked him who he was and he said he was from the States and just passin´ thru Viena, obviously on holiday, doin´ Europe and looking for clubs where there is jam sessions. The few records I bought was mostly from fellow musicians to dig some of their tunes that I liked....but there will be my birthday and it is not excluded, that my wife ordered some albums I may have talked about......, I always like those surprises.......

Thank you so much. I think about that time, early 80´s there was also a DB-interview with OC. I was a DB subscriber from the 70´s into the late 80´s I think.

I´m a big fan and the LP "Live at the East" was one of my first "jazz" LP´s when I was still a teenager, I still have it and thought to ask Mr. Sander to sign it for me, telling him how much I love his music since I was almost a kid, but somehow he looked like a man who wouldn´t like to be bothered with mundane stuff like this. Though I had the album with me when I went to his last concert in Viena, I went home with the LP un-signed, but with all that wealth of music in my head, which is the most important and durable thing.

oh thank you SO MUCH ! That´s it. you really helped me a lot. Best regards !

Thank you both so much for answering to this thread. I got the CD from Amazon, or from discogs I think. Maybe it can be ordered also on their homepage, "worry later" or directly by the label.

At many studio recordings "my main problem" is that I don´t hear the drums work completly. I´d have to get very close to the speaker to hear let´s say the ride cymbal. On live recordings I usually hear the drums how they would sound live.

Thank you for that info. I didn´t know that. I can follow that it is used in ensemble passages, but soloing it really sounds strange. Anyway, the two non typical BN-Artists on recordings, (Mellé and Montrose) somehow sound a bit "funny" to me, it sounds a bit "colder" than I´d say Mobley, Rollins, Trane, Griffin and all the others from the same period 1956 sounded.

Oh I see. What I heard is that he sounds good.

I also have the first VSOP where there was a Concert of all the Hancock groups, starting with VSOP, followed by the sextet with Buster William, Billy Hart, , Maupin, Julian Priester and Eddie Henderson and the funk band with Wah Wah Watson. The studio album V.S.O.P. was a bit of a disappointment to me. The recording quality, the bass is too loud, and somehow it doesn´t have that fire....the tunes not so exiting...

I think I have this somewhere, this might have been very very long ago, it was that short lived label from Bruce Lundvall. As much I can remember it would be some of the best Bud Powell live ever, but something was with the soundquality I mean I´m no audiophile but I think I didn´t hear Mingus´bass and it was too sharp or too much treble, so it was a pain in the ear. But from the playing it was about the best tunes and best solos he played. And above all because it was a dream team with Mingus and Roy Haynes, If I remember right there are some really fast tunes on it like "Salt Peanuts" "Little Willie Leaps" and a fantastic version of "Woody´n You" if it is that record. But I listen very seldom to albums without horns. Massey Hall I know too well to hear something new, but maybe I might make an exception to spin this one at some point, if I can catch something I had missed. It was a favourite of mine when I bought anything that had one or two members of the original Miles quintet, since one LP with the original Miles was my first jazz listening and like maybe Beatles fans might see each member of the band as their idols, in my case it was besides Miles the other players of that first quintet. And I already had dug some of Tadd Dameron´s stuff. This I think is the last real Tadd Dameron album. "In a Misty Night" became something like a "mini hit", a catchy tune, many fellow musicians like it and at least I heard it played live by Pharoah Sanders..... I think I had it on a Double LP of Miles that had "Round Midnight" on the first LP. It´s a good album with a wonderful version of the title tune, I think there is one walking blues on it and one stuff similar to the Flamenco thing on KOB. But in general this was more a transition period for Miles, it took 2 more years to have Tony Williams, my favourite drummer.

Yeah that´s the one I got.

Hello Friends ! I want to introduce you to some of the greatest players here in Austria whom I know personally. The Group "Worry later" (namend after Monk´s composition with the same title) was founded some years ago and each member is a fantastic musician and each of them teach jazz at high level jazz academies here in town, and their students are some of the hottest young players around here. Oliver Kent (p) is my idea of a perfect pianist and a fantastic composer. Daniel Nösig (tp) and Thomas Kugi (ts) .....I can say onestly that I listen to them with the same fascination and pleasure I would listen to let´s say Lee Morgan with Hank Mobley, or let´s say Freddie Hubbard and Wayne Shorter. Uli Langthaler (b) is also a fantastic composer and I love he bass sound soo much , he is my favourite bass player. Dusan Novakov (dr), oh you know how much I love good drummers and it´s just heaven on earth. They all are so wonderful human beings and I enjoy their concerts so much. This album has great compositions, all composed by Oliver Kent and Uli Langthaler. I could write about each composition but listen yourself, the music speaks for itself. And the recording sound is great. There is too many records where you just don´t hear what the drummer plays, because they cut it out and you wouldn´t hear the ride cymbal and stuff. But here it´s the sound I love, and almost like hearing them live . Highly recommended.

Oh yes, than it is the best of all, though it´s hard for me to choose. The "Tempest at Colosseum" is also top and was my favourite until I discovered "Under the Sky". On the other hand, the studio album from the same time as "Under The Sky" is a lame duck for me. By the way: You should also get Sonny Rollins "Under the Sky", it´s incredible !!!! This was my first Art Tatum album in the 70´s, it had another cover but I like it even more than the Verves. The "Begin the Beguine" is outa sight ! Oh yes wonderful, the rhythm section is tops, the album is very fine, though I alsways found that J.R.Monterose has a bit a strange way of phrasing. I´m no collector, but I think I have another one where he plays with Kenny Dorham.

Yes, this was the first VSOP I had. It was brand new then and I was still at high school and we all the guys who listened to jazz or played jazz loved it and shared it. This version of Red Clay is fantastic !

up: Please, anybody ? Any advices ?

I think I read some of his liner notes, but maybe it was mostly adding notes writtten by him about previously unreleased BN tracks. I didn´t know he wrote for ECM, I always had associated him with BN.

Which one is that ? I have some of the VSOP quintet. But it has another cover. I think two of them are from Japan.

Dear Bill ! Have a Happy Birthday and I´m glad to read you . You know so much music !

Looks like those old abstract Verve covers.

Wasn´t Benny Carter very much on those late Pablo albums ? There was one with Diz, but I never heard it, and one I think under his own name with "Mellow Tone" on it. But did he really play alto AND trumpet ? I don´t remember nothing special about that "Mellow Tone" but it swung.

I admire all people who can memorize lyrics of songs. I sometimes try to find lyrics to songs on google, but often it´s just the lyrics written and you don´t know how they insert it into the song, and sometimes the most part of the lyrics is the verse of the song. And many of us know the verse only on tunes, where it is usually played as an intro . On the other hand, I noticed that in any language I know, it´s hard to understand words if they are sung. And me and my wife can´t memorize even the simplest children songs, we might start with the first three words of the song if it start´s with the title of the song and than it turns into "hm hm hm" or in my case into some stupid scat with shou bah bee shou bah bop😄 Last year we had that nice little winter tree in the living room and when we stood in front of it, we said spontaniously "at that point it is supposed to sing some "colinde" (Weihnachtslieder) and we started "Stille Nacht Helige Nacht" and after that four words the lyrics turned into "hmmmm hm hmm, hmmm hm hmm" 😲 I can memorize all that music just from hearing it just one time, but a few words of lyrics and I´m lost.....

really a wealth of treasures. It will take some time for me to see them all. The gig at "inntöne" in Upper Austria I think was just a few days after I saw him for the last time at "Porgy and Bess". He still was strong, but seemed to have difficulties to walk, whatever it was. The last appearance in public is very moving. But who is the slim guy who also plays tenor, he´s okay but what does that flower on his head mean ?

Yeah that could be the transcription. Okay in my own case, if it is more musicians termenology, I would dig it because I play, but I think to remember that one was more about society or sociology and that is not really what I read.