Jim R

I've been having some technical problems here over the past couple of days. The site would either not connect at all, or the "today's active topics" page would not reload once I was here; or links wouldn't open, etc. The strangest thing, though, was that my time setting suddenly went awry. The only way I could correct it was to enter a false setting about what time zone I'm actually in, in order to get the most current thread to line up with the actual time of day...

BTW, Al, while I was surfing for info on BLUE MUSE, I came across a reference to Burrell's "MOTEN SWING" CD, where they called it "MOLTEN SWING". Run with it...

HEY! I thought we agreed that I would announce the latest Kenny Burrell releases. ( ) At least you didn't attempt any of your bad puns. (Can you tell yet that Al and I are old buddies? No? Well, Al and I are old buddies). Okay, okay, some facts (if we can trust CD Universe, that is): Track Listing 1. Mark I 2. My Friend Ray 3. On Wings Of The Spirit 4. Then I Met You 5. It's No Time To Be Blue 6. Blue In Green 7. Blue Muse 8. Solitude 9. 3/4 Of The House 10. 'Round Midnight 11. Habiba 12. Blue Guitar Blues Personnel: Kenny Burrell (vocals, acoustic & electric guitars); Herman Riley (saxophone, flute); Tom Rainer (piano, keyboards); Gerald Wiggins (piano); Roberto Miranda (bass); Sherman Ferguson (drums). Recorded at Castle Oaks Studios, Calabasas, California in 2000. I haven't been out shopping in awhile... I better go grab this!

I'm with Jim regarding Walton's NAIMA. It's actually Louis Hayes on drums, BTW. Anybody who digs Clifford Jordan should get their hands on that... what a group! I also concur on CONSTELLATION and TUNE UP. I almost wore out my vinyl on those, and picked them up as individual CD's back when they first came out on Muse. CONSTELLATION was recorded first, and hit CD first, I think... (slightly lower catalog number).

Sorry, my bad on the "Complete Quartets" reference.

Actually, those two tracks are also available on two other releases besides the Mosaic set. They're included in Blue Note's 2 CD set "The Complete Quartets With Sonny Clark"; and also as bonus tracks on "The Latin Bit" CD.

Mnytime, In basketball, "athletecism" refers to a guy who has some combination of the following: great leaping ability; great speed; great strength; etc. The ability to read the game, shoot, pass, set screens, hone one's footwork, know positioning, etc are not associated with the term "athletecism". Don't worry, keep posting around here about sports questions and we'll get you straightened out.

"Haven't missed a beat"... Joe has FOUR rings. There's been ONE championship, for a great franchise, since Joe left. Thanks for helping to clarify the real point!

Mnytime, I think you make far too many assumptions (about the importance of Montana's team-mates; about what Dan Marino would have done in Montana's shoes; the importance of quarterback ratings; the strengh of someone's arm; etc). I don't think I'm going to convince you of anything, so I'll just stand by my previous comments.

Mnytime, I think you're confusing "greatest passer" with "greatest quarterback". Marino was a great passer, but he was no Joe Montana as a quarterback. The quarterback's job is to move the offense, get the ball into the endzone, and win games. Montana did that better than anyone, ESPECIALLY when the pressure was on. I don't understand how you can qualify his accomplishments based on what type of offense he played in. That was the system Walsh set up, so Joe didn't HAVE to make a lot of throws like Dan Marino. The 49ers did have great defenses, but without Montana they wouldn't have won so many Super Bowls. Joe's arm wasn't "weak". He didn't have a gun like Elway or Marino, but Joe could throw the long ball (accurately) just fine. Skill. Timing. Instinct. Tenacity. Leadership. 3 Super Bowl MVP's. I'm not sure what more you want from the guy...

Mnytime, although I agree with some of your other comments, I have to disagree about this one. I'm not ready to predict great things for Walton in the NBA (and certainly not right away), but your Madsen comparison is off target, IMO. It's not that Walton is "more athletic" than Madsen. He's a far more skilled (especially with the ball in his hands) and well-rounded basketball player. Madsen is all about tenacity and energy under the hoop. Walton is all about finesse (footwork, positioning, passing skill, shooting with either hand, etc), and can do things away from the basket (shooting, passing) that Madsen can't. He understands the team game very well, and he's far more talented and versatile than Madsen. And this is coming from a Stanford fan! Having said that, and as good as I think Luke was as an NCAA player, he may take awhile to adjust to the speed of the NBA game.

An artist I "rediscovered", thanks to our buddy Lon:

I voted for J.J., but might have chosen Frank Rosolino if he was on the list...

I love Z.T.'s Blues also. As far as the choices listed here, though, I think I would agree with Templejazz. I think a good reason to try Easy Walker or The Spoiler is that they're not quite so blues-oriented as some of the items you already have. Easy Walker offers a nice line-up of tunes with a variety of styles. Stanley still plays in his bluesy, soulful style, so the blues element is still there anyway. I'm also a fan of Duke Pearson's arranging, and The Spoiler also offers a nice selection of compostitions for Stanley to work out on.

Tough call, but I went with Horace.

Ebay is probably your best bet for the Odeon CD's, since they're likely OOP. The Ubatuqui CD used to be available at Tower, but it may be OOP as well. The BIS compilation may still be in print... I would check the Brazil CD listings at Dusty Groove regularly.

At least his first 3 albums for Odeon have been released on CD MILTON BANANA TRIO BALANÇANDO VE' I once saw a 3-CD boxed set on eBay that contained all of the above recordings, but I don't think it's in print anymore. His 1962 Audio Fidelity album was released on CD by Ubatuqui (Spain). Also, there was/is a 2-CD Milton Banana compilation (EMI/Odeon material) put out last year as part of a reissue series on BIS.

This is one of those impossible questions. I love all of the above, and would like to add "I Want To Talk About You" and "Soul Eyes" (that's how I feel today, at least ).

I've already corresponded with Dan about this, but I'll just pop in here and say I like option #5 the best. The bottom line is, find out why Eddie turned down Art Blakey!! Dan, have fun- I know this will reveal some new things about a current favorite artist of mine, and I'm looking forward to hearin' about it!

There was a thread about this new Dexter Gordon box set recently, but I decided to start a new thread to announce a couple of errors. Here's the deal. For those of us who already own all of Dexter's Steeplechases, and are mainly interested in this new set for the 28 p.i. alternates, there's a minor problem I've discovered, with the help of a friend who bought the set. I've spent some time comparing my 1990 STABLE MABLE CD to the corresponding box set material (involving disc 3), and I've found a couple of errors. Here's how the box set data reads for the March 10, 1975 session: Rosenberg Studios, Copenhagen, Engineer: Freddy Hansson - March 10, 1975 DISC 3 [1] Just Friends, take 1 8:07 [2] Just Friends, take 2 7:57* (previously unissued) [3] Just Friends, take 3 8:10 On my "Stable Mable" CD, the "issued" take (the one that was on the original LP) is 7:58 in length, while the "previously unissued" 1990 CD bonus track was listed as 8:07. I compared the "7:57" take with my "7:58" version on my CD, and as expected, they're identical. It looks like the take that had remained in the can and is now being released for the first time in the box is either #1, or #3 above. I suspect it's take 3, but I can't be sure, because the actual length of my CD bonus track is 8:09, not 8:07. I haven't heard takes 1 and 3 from the box yet, so it remains to be seen which take is actually seeing the light of day here for the first time (but they're incorrect to say it's take 2). The same type of error occurs in their notations for "Misty": DISC 3 [4] Misty, take 1 8:17 [5] Misty, take 2 7:42* [6] Misty, take 3 7:24 The regular take on the 1990 STABLE MABLE CD is 8:18, but the CD bonus track is listed as 7:42. I compared their Disc 3/track 5 with this bonus track on my CD, and they're the same. So, they should have their asterisk next to #6, the 7:24 take. To sum up, it looks like anybody who wants to gather up the 28 "previously unissued" alternate takes from this set needs to include take 3 of "Misty" and most likely take 3 of "Just Friends".

R.T., ... do you have a Fantasy catalog? Ever seen one? Ever been to their website?

Rooster, the histories of all the labels you list (as well as others under the Fantasy umbrella), and all the great artists who recorded for them is a long story. I can see why you'd be confused by all these labels having been lumped together, though. I'd probably be in the same boat, but I got into jazz just in time (70's) to get involved in collecting old LP's, and the labels took on an identity for me before the whole OJC reissue thing really got my attention. I think the best suggestion I can give you is to (if you haven't already) get ahold of a Fantasy print catalog and go through it carefully. I've been getting these free for years in the mail, as well as the local Tower stores. I usually get a few, and keep them in various rooms (and in the car). Whether or not I'm looking to buy something, these catalogs are a great reference... almost like getting a free discography (personnel, track listings, original catalog numbers.... plus a small color repro of each cover). It's not a "complete" discography of each label, but it's still a great reference. This way you could begin to familiarize yourself with who and what was on each label...

The photo I posted above was from a 60's WWII drama called "Combat!". Some great writing, and great acting both by the regular cast as well as a long list of guest stars. I'm hoping this will come out on DVD. I grew up with the Beave, Dick Van Dyke, Andy Griffith, Lassie, Ed Sullivan, Red Skelton, The Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, 77 Sunset Strip, Perry Mason, Burke's Law, The Real McCoys, The Rifleman, Father Knows Best, The Addams Family, Get Smart, Bonanza, Hogan's Heroes, F Troop... man I watched a lot of TV...