mikeweil

Duh! Wanted to listen to these Baranco sides and found out that they are on Vol. 2 of the Lp series, and I have only Vol. 1 & 3 ....

I can follow everyone's points here, but I think there is a minimum of respect for the audience every artist should have, no matter how crappy the place, the circumstances or the audience are. There have been many musicians of his stature that took gigs at old age and still commanded respect and all. Milt Hinton, Ray Brown, Doc Cheatham, Benny Carter ... If he abuses alcohol, it is, after all, his personal responsibilty. Same goes for his stage behaviour. Your personal frustrations do not belong into the music or on stage. Just my opinion as a musician of minor importance - the older I get, the more relaxed I get and the less an issue I make of non-attentive audiences etc. We'll talk about it again 30 years from now, when I'm turning 80 ....

According to The New Grove Dictionary of Jazz, there doesn't seem to be much definite knowledge about him, not even his birthdate - ca. 1912. It says he played with drummer Curtis Mosby ca. 1933-34, then ceased full-time performing. He played during army service and then obviously belonged to that elusive circle of modern musicians in California; Vic Dickenson, Dizzy Gillespie and Willie Smith are said to have played at reduced fees with his band, the Rhythm Bombardiers. He had a trio with Ulysses Livingston in California in 1947 and is said to have worked as a music teacher there in later years. I have a Solid Sender LP with the four Rhythm Bombardiers titles, seems I'll have to dig this out and have a listen ... actually the Grove has its info from Dieter Salemann's liner notes to that LP - he's one of Germany's greatest experts on early bebop up to 1950.

Well, for more about Barney Wilen, follow this link. The extensive discussion here may be the reason this track did not generate as muich excitement as it should. I remember I was totally thrilled when I bought this, it was the first Wilen I ever consciously encountered. For a record with the same youthful excitement, I'd say hunt for his Vogue debut, Tilt - seems the BMG CD reissue is OOP again.

The latter is a beautiful album! There is a number of albums on SteepleChase, what I have heard is nice. That Thomas Dyani, BTW, is his son with a Danish wife.

Well, apart from his own sessions as a leader his discography is not that large. His first as a leader was on Prestige and is available as OJC CD or a new 20-bit remastering. He did two for Helen Merrill on EmArcy, which are wonderful, the second is a remake with exactly the same tracks, but it works! He did arrangements for Kenny Burrell (Guitar Forms) and Astrud Gilberto (don't know the album) on Verve. There was an album with a Japanese orchestra led by Masabumi Kikuchi that I cherish, Billy Harper has a few excellent solos on this. If you dare follow his post-Miles development, go for the LPs on Ampex (reissued by Enja) and Atlantic (Svengali, an essential one); the RCAs with Hendrix material etc. are a little confused at times (to these ears) - but he took a lot of chances back then. Take any of his later live sessions for a sample of what his later bands sounded like. If you want to explore his very roots, go for the arrangements he did for the Claude Thornhill Orchestra in the late 1940's.

Silver's fine with me too, I have most of them.

A look into Bruyninckx tells me (in chronological order of recording): Sinatra/Basie Reprise 91008 10-62 On my way and shoutin' again Verve 8511 11-62 This time by Basie/ Hits of the 50's & 60's Reprise 96070 1-63 More hits of the 50's & 60's Verve 8563 4-63 Li'l ol' groovemaker Verve 8549 4-63 Ella and Basie Verve 8783 7-63 Basie Band Verve 8597 10-63 It might as well be spring Reprise 91012 6-64 w. Sammy Davis Jr. Verve 8605 9-64 Pop goes Basie Reprise 6153 12-64 Basie picks the winners Verve 8616 1-65 Basie's Best Verve 8687 10-65 w. Arthur Prysock Verve 8646 12-65 Basie meets Bond United Artists 3480 12-65 w. Sinatra Live at the Sands Reprise 91019/22 1-66 Basie's Beatles Bag Verve 8659 5-66 Basie swingin', voices singin' ABC 570 6-66 Basie's Way Command 905 8/9-66 Basie's Way Command 912 12-66 Basie's Best Verve 8687 2-67 Basie's in the bag Brunswick 54127 8-67 The happiest millionaire Coliseum 51003 10-67 Half a sixpence Dot 25834 11-67 Board of directors Dot 3838 11-67 Manufacturers of soul Brunswick 54134 1-68 Annual report Dot 3888 7-68 Straight ahead Dot 25902 9-68 Kay Starr & Count Basie Gold Star 1500006 12-68 Satznding Ovation Dot 25938 1-69 Evergreens Groove Merchant 2201 10-69 Basie on the Beatles Happy Tiger 1007 12-69 High Voltage MPS 15054 2-70 Afrique Flying Dutchman 10138 12-70 Live bootlegs not included. Hope that helps. Don't ask me why he switched between labels so often, I justed typed it up ...

This was indeed a compilation with only this one track of the Montgomery Brothers. It probably was an audition session for Columbia, who didn't sign them - they ended up recording their first albums for Pacific Jazz. There were probably more titles recorded that remain unissued. A nice track, but not indispensable.

To keep the "AOW past & present" thread clean I rather start a new one. I find the George Russell Jazz Workshop album an excellent choice and would take part in a discussion on this one. I can't afford to buy specific CDs for this discussion at the time but would participate if I had the CD in my collection, like this one.

It makes me kind of sad this very entertaining Blindfold Test Disc doesn't get more feedback here - but maybe you just didn't have enough time just like me. I would like to add some more comments on the Latin Jazz Quintet, which was a fine band, but the liner of the Prestige reissue states they had problems to maintain a stable personnel due to lack of gigs. Conga drummer Juan Amalbert (who later changed his name to Emanuel Rahim and recorded with John Coltrane and others before moving to Scandinavia) founded the band, obviously inspired by the Cal Tjader groups. Prestige gave them a chance to record some albums after two sessions as backup band for Shirley Scott (Mucho Mucho) and teamed with Eric Dolphy (Caribé). The first session stayed in the vaults for almost a year until part of it was released in combination with tracks from the next session, which had alto saxophonist Bobby Capers added to the group. Another mix album from these sessions and another one followed, but it seems they didn't sell much. A different personnel with some members of the first records recorded another LP with Dolphy for United Artists; Amalbert took a shot at a more Latin Soul oriented approach with Pharoah Sanders as guest soloist. Capers had played but not recorded with Max Roach before joining the LJQ and went with Mongo Santamaria in late 1962 after they disbanded. Trumpeter Marty Sheller and Saxist Pat Patrick of Sun Ra Arkestra fame were his front line partners in Mongo's band, Capers played tenor, Patrick alto and baritone, but Capers adopted the latter role when Hubert Laws replaced Patrick in 1964. He stayed with the band until 1966. It seems he attempted a band with his piano playing sister Valerie (who wrote many arrangements for Mongo over the years and remains active as a piano teacher), but a session they did together and an earlier one with members of Mongo's band, both for Atlantic, were not issued and were probably destroyed by the fire in the Atlantic tape storage facility in 1974. Capers did a handful of sessions as a section man, he soloed only with the LJQ or Mongo. I find him a no-nonsense soloist, modern bop with a good feeling for the Latin rhythms. For a player of his level, he's severely under-recorded. He is no longer with us, but so far I could not find out the date or circumstances of his death; any information would be greatly appreciated. The Latin Jazz Quintet LPs: 1 - Prestige 7182 Shirley Scott - Mucho Mucho 2 - New Jazz 8251 The Latin Jazz Quintet + Eric Dolphy - Caribé 3 - Tru-Sound 15003 The Latin Jazz Quintet - Hot Sauce 4 - Tru-Sound 15012 The Latin Jazz Quintet - The Chant 5 - New Jazz 8321 The Latin Jazz Quintet - Latin Soul 6 - United Artists UAS 5071 The Latin Jazz Quintet (w. Eric Dolphy) 7 - Phoenix LP PLP-8008 Pharoah Sanders with the Latin Jazz Quintet - Oh! Pharoah Speak Latin Jazz Quintet CD reissues: Original Jazz Classics OJCCD-819-2 The Latin Jazz Quintet + Eric Dolphy - Caribé Palladium PCD 145 The Latin Jazz Quintet (UA LP) P-Vine (number ?) The Latin Jazz Quintet ? The Chant Prestige PRCD-24128-2 The Latin Jazz Quintet - Hot Sauce (incl. 3 & 4) Prestige VICJ-23132 The Latin Jazz Quintet - Hot Sauce (incl. 5 & 4) Prestige VICJ-23146 Shirley Scott - Mucho Mucho Mongo Santamaria LP's with Capers: Battle BM/BS (9)6120 Mongo Santamaria - Watermelon Man Battle BM/BS (9)6129 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo At The Village Gate Riverside (9)3523 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo Introduces La Lupe Riverside (9)3529 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo At The Village Gate Riverside (9)3530 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo Explodes Riverside S-3008 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo At The Village Gate Columbia CL2298/CS 9098 Mongo Santamaria - El Pussy Cat Columbia CL2375/CS 9175 Mongo Santamaria - La Bamba Columbia CL2411/CS 9211 Mongo Santamaria - El Bravo! Columbia CL2473/CS 9273 Mongo Santamaria - Hey! Let?s Party! Columbia CL2612/CS 9412 Mongo Santamaria - Mongomania Mongo Santamaria CD's with Capers: Milestone MCD-9210-2 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo Introduces La Lupe Milestone MCD-47075-2 Mongo Santamaria - Watermelon Man Milestone MCD-47038-2 Mongo Santamaria - Skins Original Jazz Classics OJCCD-490-2 Mongo Santamaria - Mongo At The Village Gate Columbia Legacy 498708-2 Mongo Santamaria - Greatest Hits

But it's good to see there are at least some members here with a classical education ...

You should rather ease Jim Dye's pain instead of yelling "obey the fist"!

I sincerely hope you had a good time doing so ... and the drinks were not giving you as much of a headache as the shipping costs.

That happened to me with the Three Sounds live at the Lighthouse CD. Some pop sh.. inside, although the label was correct! But the second copy the shop had was okay!

I was afraid someone would post this sentence .....

I'm afraid that's all we can pray for, unless Zaentz accepts Chuck' check.

Pony Express is an all-star sax meeting: Pony Poindexter, ss, as Phil Woods, Gene Quill, Sonny Red Kyner, Eric Dolphy as Dexter Gordon, Jimmy Heath, Sal Nistico ts Pepper Adams bs I may forget someone, too lazy to get up and fetch the CD ... But thematic material isn't that much different from that on Gumbo. The latter was an attempt to refresh the New Orleans tradition in jazz, something the Marsalis clan and all the other talented players from the city achieved twenty years later. He was ahead of his time as far as this is concerned. The guys from New Orleans, like Danny Barker, got his message, but the critics back then didn't.

Ironically, that reads almost literally like the criticism at the time of its first release; he writes in his autobiography how much that frustrated him. The jazz world hasn't changed much since then, in some respects. Not to blame you, that is.

Click on discography, and read the note at the bottom of the page.

I'd say Clare Fischer's recordings are most likely to be reissued on his own new label, here's a link to his website, send him a request. Some of the duos with Gary Foster were on Discovery, they are excellent.

That Half Note stuff sounds very interesting. But I'm still waiting for a reissue of the last remaining Coltrane Impulse session not yet reissued on CD: Cosmic Music. I know Alice's material from this was reissed, but what about Reverend King?

Just picked up Moshi on ebay, very cheap. But that organ trio makes me even more curious. Anybody knows it's available somewhere?

deus, I read your post only after posting mine and basically agree with you, they should be informed and put a warning on their page with the shipping charges or elsewhere.

I basically agree with what Claude says, once it is shipped this way it is out of their hands and they cannot do anything about it - but they should be aware and could point this out to their customers, as a disclaimer of sorts. I think it has something to do with the different paths parcels shipped by mail or courier services take - and of course the official regulations that apply. It appears contradictory to me that higher shipping charges generate even higher charges upon receipt.