mikeweil

C'mon y'all, this is an INTERNATIONAL jazz forum, so this really shouldn't be of any importance!

I most certainly do not expect anyone to produce more than one disc, but I think two should be allowed if this gives the test master the chance to get his ideas across. I myself plan to compile two dics, with two or three themes intertwined and programmed like a voyage through musical territory, but a single disc with just some music the compiler digs or thinks is overlooked is just as fine with me. Any way to compile the disc is welcome! The opportunity to discuss some music with our fellow boarders is invaluable. Freedom rules, although I believe more than two discs would be simply too much to attentively listen to in the time span usually available for one test, i.e. to stay up to date with the discussion.

Agreed! I'm still hoping for a copy or reissue of the rare self-produced session of the Al Grey-Jimmy Forrest group with Don Patterson on organ!

Perhaps the Concords are aesier to get for you. There was a 2 CD compilation from them (available at Zweitausendeins as well), but they are all nice, and the band was very together, with Mark Levine (a geat pianist/arranger for Latin style), Poncho Sanchez, and Roger Glenn or Gary Foster. I'll post my Tjader Fantasy recommendations later, it's hard for me to pick one - I have 'em and love 'em all ...

Roy Ayers also plays on David Newman's 1971 Atlantic LP "Lonely Avenue". Didn't know he is on "Newmanism" /which is from 1974 or 74, have to get me this one! Thanks for pointing me to it!

I can think of themes that are better brought across on two discs. I found the two discs approproate, especially considering it will take years before you can get another turn.

ubu, have a listen first to check if the ZYX remastering is okay Of course it's fantastic, swings like hell. All are great on that album: Getz, Tjader, Guaraldi, Duran, LaFaro, Higgins - what a dream band! Eddie Duran is a very good, very underrated guitarist, still active in the Bay area with his wife - they perform as Mad 'n' Eddie! I have practically all of Tjader's CDs, so if you see anything, just ask, I can tell ya how it is!

Of course - I always miss one name when I put together such a list. I love most of these guys. Ayers is my favourite, because his sound is sooooo beautiful, more than that of any other vibist, and during years with Herbie Mann he played some very exciting rhythmical phrases. His collaborations with Jack Wilson are timeless. Pike - I recently got me his Columbia album with Bill Evans, and it is fantastic, full of swing, perhaps the best fit for "hard bop vibist". Jackson is great, but I constantly fail to remember even one of his melodic phrases - a certain sameness creeps in. Same goes fur Huthcerson. I can sing whole solos of Ayers, on the contrary .... Tjader I love, he is my second choice. Always tasteful, swinging and with good sound. Teddy Charles is the most fearless on the list, bold and right in your face. Burton - the four-mallet sophistication turns me off, this obsession with harmonic development - I prefer the rhythmic percussive side of the instrument. Dickerson - still the epitome of sensitive avant-garde vibes, in the top league. Lytle - the groove master. Now who voted for Lytle?

Is there something wrong with Eddie, or is it the fact that only few board members have this disc? Or is everything relevant already said in the Eddie Harris Corner? Or is there something I just don't get? I love Eddie and any of his discs and at makes me somewhat sad there are not more replies here.

Tjader would be my second choice too, after Ayers. Besides being a Latin Jazz pioneer of the highest order, he covered a lot of ground and he plays with so much feeling. After playing a tune from one of his albums with one of my bands I realized how great an interpreter of others' compositions he is!

I left off Hampton and Norvo - I' aware Norvo in particular played very modern stuff! - to focus on the discussion on modern doorbellists (I like that term, I'll admit! active in the 1960's, otherwise 10 choices simply wouldn't be enough, and please excuse if I omitted any player of importance - the list of vibists passing through the George Shearing Band alone is enormous: Marjorie Hyams (who was inactive raising children by then), Tjader, Joe Roland, Johnny Rae, Emil Richards, Warren Chiasson, you name 'em! I left off Eddie Costa as he had passed by 1962, and Victor Feldman beacuse he doubled and did much studio work, the latter applies to Emil Richards as well. Of course Bags 'n' Bobby will lead the pack, that's for sure, but please let us know who are your second or third choices! Thanks! I add a list of prominent jazz vibists from the beginning, please post your additions and correction (especially concerning year of birth and/or death) at the end of the thread, and I will edit them in. Thanks again!

you didn't give him much either in your reaction to the cut... Don't want to picky, John, but "to give someone credit" means, in the first place, to mention someone's participation (that's why one talks about album credits) and effort, and I did that. I just don't like his drumming on that track. I dig Carvin on several other records I have, and sincerely recommend his solo drum CD on Mapleshade, which is great. But this here sounds too forced for me, and the timing is not accurate, the alto sounds forced as well, and they never should have handed him that cowbell. I really did what they do with the vocals at the end, if they would have acted at that volume level and with the interaction and variation level all through the track, I would have been thrilled! I have to admit I never was much of a McLean fan, and this track is no reason for me to become one.

Looks like the BNBB is trying to reincarnate in the customer review sections ... where they can control it much easier.

I forgot one thing: Timmons did of liver cirrhosis .....

I'm afraid it was his own fault - not counting the social surroundings, of course - I don't know wether he was using other substances, but his look into the drinking glass was deep and frequent, and in later years it showed in his playing - like with Paul Gonsalves.

If so, it's the darned same ole thing - the drummer never gets the credit ...

You mean this album?

I know for certain Mike Howell recorded and performed on bass guitar or electric bass - Ed Cherry played guitar - with Dizzy in 1982, there is an album with that personnel on Pablo (Musician-Composer-Raconteur) as well as two live bootleg LPs from the European tour they did, and I saw that band on TV, the rockiest Dizzy ever led! I recognized Howell from his photos on the Milestone LP covers and wondered why he had him play bass, especially as Cherry's guitar style was everything but jazz! But he recorded with Dizzy on guitar on Bahiana in 1975, Al Gafa was on that as well. Howell did record with Blakey on guitar for Prestige in 1973, the sessions for the Buhaina and Anthenagin albums. The one with Howell is available on Mission Eternal, Prestige PRCD-24159-2. AFAIK Howell didn't record besides these and his three LPs as a leader for Milestone (1973 and 1974) and Catalyst (1976). But it seems he is still active, there are some concert announcements to be found on the web dating from recent years, if that is him. AMG mixes him up with some pop producer Michael Howell and omitts the two Milestone LPs. Thanks for the compliment Randy, I did my best to keep the guessing game running. It was fun!

dtto. good night and jazzy dreams!

Pausa reissue of a famous World Pacific LP:

Shepherds?!