mikeweil

I never thought I could send you back to the closet! That West Coast pianist is not on your list, Jim, he recorded an album with this bassist and drummer together for Prestige in 1973, and all three as the rhythm section for that guitarist's first album on another label a few months later.

Maupin led only one date for ECM as a leader, The Jewel in the Lotus, which is a beauty but not the record in question. It had Summers on percussion. AFAIK Maupin did only once appear as a sideman on ECM, on Marion Brown's Afternoon of a Georgia Faun. Both have no guitar ....

Can you imagine this bass and drums sound recorded for/by ECM? Sorry, no. There was a guessing game running on German TV running for decades, where 4 VIPs had to guess a guest's profession, or the name of another VIP (blindfolded ), the guests were allowed to respond only with "yes" or "no". Each "yes" gave the team another shot, each "no" was a five deutschmarks coin into the guest's piggy bank. Mine would be filled by now and the game over. Any more guesses?

I quote myself: Does this apply to Don Alias? No. -_-

Please accept my apologies, but this ball was too nice to let it pass ...

John, you give up? I selected AllTheWeb in my search window but cannot think of someone decent to add to the name of Maupin Now here we do approach the real problem ...

John, you give up?

Bill Summers would have been my man of choice for that record, he would have handled everything with a lot more taste and restraint, with a mellower conga sound. I've been watching Bill's work for a long time now, he's one of my idols, I had the fortune to meet him personally on one of his tours with Herbie Hancock in Europe, but ...

But apart from this, I can hear the similarities pointing you to Mtume: the relative lightness of sound, that wooden tone, the fast runs - but this guy here hits much harder than Mtume, and his repertoire of licks is limited. He uses to many triplets in his solos, and his fills are always completely off groove, where Mtume often keeps some aspect of the groove during his fills or solos. This percussionist did quite a number of record dates for several years, published an introductory book on conga playing, but has not been in the spotlight for the last 15 to 20 years, AFAIK.

Jim, I hate to say this, but your skills in recognizing conga players are far from your fantastic resources for identifying saxophonists ...

I'm afraid it will be of little help when I say I use AllTheWeb to search the internet, and that help me find it, but with the name of some other band member ...

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Correct! If you had ever seen how much he enjoyed himself - and the audience enjoyed his joking - this wouldn't be much of an issue. But I can see that it might alienate someone who never caught him live. And you need a rhythm section capable of handling the proper groove for Listen Here!

No.

You know, I'm willing to bet that the majority of people feel the same way. Music? What music? I can't even name one of her albums! And if they wouldn't be dancin' around all the time in sexy outfits nobody would watch their video clips either - I bet most just wait for some intentional wardrobe malfunction to occur

So that drummer sounds like Mason to you .... And the guitarist like Ritenour ... It seems so Randy, nobody knows but the two of us!

I KNEW you would run to Chris Genzel's Maupin disco, but he doesn't have it either - I wouldn't have given that hint if I had known it was listed there (Yes I know I am a bastard) I offered Genzel to send him some data, but he never replied ...

I love "One Flight Up", but the mix annoys me: The drums way up front on the right channel, the horns at a distance with lots of room ambience. Like the drummer was in a booth and the rest of the band in the large room (you remember that studio from the 'Round Midnight movie? 9 CDs for the Prestige box set? Did he record so much for them? I counted 10 LPs that were released back then, with a maximum of 45 minutes playing time, and one CD with unissued live material.

The talk about the different action of the two instruments reminds me that I read about several baroque harpsichord players refusing to play organ as they were afraid to ruin their delicate touch on the harpsichord - most organs back then had very heavy action, in German language organists were called "Orgelschläger", organ hitters!

Jack McDuff plays more piano on a track or two on the Cadet double LP "The Heatin' System". Nice and bluesy. Melvin Rhyne played piano on a track or two of two rather obscure CDs: Mark Ladley Trio, "Evidence" (Altenburgh Records, 1993) Jimmy Coe Big Band : "Say What?!" (Time Records, rec. 1987, CD available from Jazz Record Mart). Rhyne plays pretty strong piano, he started out on piano, but without the subtlety we expect from good pianists or know from his organ playing.

Not only in "out" music, but in general it is often used as an expressive means to leave a dissonant chord unresolved, like an unanswered question. (There is a Charles Ives orchestral piece of that name, I'm not sure if it uses that device, have to take a listen again). Even a musical layman will feel the resulting tension. "Out" music has more to do with the avoidance of consonance altogether, among many other things.

I find it very interesting how many listeners describe that Hodges as being shakespearian!

It's an upright, but with one of them dreaded pickups just coming up around that time, they sounded really awful, no bottom, no warmth. I'm thankful for technical progress in that particular respect. I hate the bass sound on that record, and I don't like the conga playing - sound like he overdubbed the bells and stuff later, which are nice, but his conga playing is hard, not smooth, and not in the pocket with the drummer. I like the music as a whole, the tunes, the guitarist, and the reed guy. It is Maupin, but as I said, not the Headhunters, it was recorded in 1974, and the bassist (not Ron Carter) and the drummer where the rhythm section for a pretty famous West Coast pianist at the time. If this doesn't help ... ... you will have to wait for the answers thread