mikeweil

Hell Yeah! Congratulations!

I personally think it shows a little too much in his playing - and the two other horns are playing out of tune in some of the heads - or was that the Jazzland LP ? - that is even worse in that respect. For Dexterites, yes, but not indispensable.

I'm still waiting for the 1 LP 16 2/3 rpm edition ...

If I'm correct, the only still alive born before 1920 are George Shearing and Al McKibbon?

Brownie - didn't want to be picky, didn't have the time for an closer look, so you maybe right, and I was too fast. Tab Smith was indeed born in 1909. Thanks EKE BBB - nice job. 1909 was a great year!

Oh, that Pettiford discography - of course I know it - I must have overlooked that reissue. Thanks for posting, brownie! p.s. he lists only the CD reissue - does your LP bear the same issue number? I guess not.

There will never be enough Texans on this board !!!

The Jazz Studio One is indeed a fine session, all are in great form, not only Bennie Green, but also Paul Quinichette! There was a British Jasmine LP reissue in the late 1970's.

That's how they want to make us advance pay for our safety copies?

Just for fun - or perhaps not - not applicable - or not sure - ??? - I really can't take this seriously: 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 2. Liberal Quakers (96%) 3. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (95%) 4. Secular Humanism (88%) 5. Neo-Pagan (88%) 6. New Age (83%) View my previous post ..... eben if you choose "none of the above" they put you into one of their bags - this is ridiculous and about as reliable as a Sunday paper horoscope. The curse of statistics .....

Well, if not, Universalism wouldn't be universal - and Humanism wouldn't be human - you dig?

Budd Johnson also made a nice Felsted record. And one for Riverside:

Steve Wilson

Re-listening with this thread in mind gives me the idea this was a mislead date similar to Herbie Hancock's unreleased first funk session of July 19, 1966. Not enough funk or soul in the groove. I think both rhyhthm sections fail in their own different ways. The earlier one is a little too straight soul jazz with Idris Muhammad and Jimmy Ponder (Is there any guitarist who could mesh with Andrew Hill ???), the second one is a jazz pack trying to stay in the pocket too much. The recipe was one more outrageous player (Workman and Waits, respectively) with more conventional section mates, perhaps with commercial considerations in mind - remember this was 1968 and jazz sales were not doing fine. Andrew Hill's Lion prescribed take on populat sounds? His Sidewinder? Morgan was on board for the second take ... Wasn't that one of Alfred Lion's last productions?

It was reissued on LP by Fresh Sounds. Nice date where Lucky Thompson is heavily featured with solos on all twelve tunes by Sharon. Eddie Costa sticks to vibes which is cool. The rhythm section with Oscar Pettiford and Osie Johnson is just fine. And Ralph Sharon is OK. Not really essential but no fans of unLucky could let this remain ignored when it was available. Saw a Fresh Sounds CD reissue of this, long time ago. Seems this is no longer available. Would you please post exact issue numbers as I need these for my Lucky discography in the making? Thanks!

I'm late on this, but the bass controversy in this thread made me curious and so I'm listening to this right now ... It was my first or second Hill LP back then and the one that opened the door for his compositional talent for me. That's why it will always hold a special place in my heart. (The other was the One For One twofer.)

Has anybody heard this and can recommend it?

That's an impressive list, of course! How did you do yours? Compiled it from an encyclopedia or is there a nice website to copy & paste it from? I dig 'em all, I have to say it again, but this mixture of swing, bebop and free in one decade fascinates me: Charlie Parker and Ornette Coleman. Anyone to list 1901-1910 and 1911-1919? I'm too lazy ...

Here's a better repro of the cover: My desert island baritone record!

Perhaps he had to prove to himself a normal child would be his ... (I know this is cynical, but I think he is nuts.)

Well, you list musicians born between 1890 (Jelly Roll Morton) and 1919, so the comparison does not quite apply. I think this one decade produced MORE musicians shaping the music, and the range of the music they practiced is much broader: from trad to free. And it reflects the attractivity a life as a jazz musician must have had for young cats growing up in the swing era. I enjoy these elders too, of course

Here's all that Lucky recorded during his first stay in Paris between February and May 1956: _________________________________________________________________ Emmett Berry (trumpet -1) Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone -2) Henri Renaud (piano -3) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, February 22, 1956 Thin Ice -2 Thin Ice (alternate take) -2 Blues For Frank -1,3 Ducretet Thomson 460 V 219 Takin' Care O' Business -1,2,3 Takin' Care O' Business (alternate take) -1,2,3 A Minor Delight 1,2,3 Medley: Sophisticated Lady / These Foolish Things Ducretet Thomson 460 V 219 One Cool Night 1,2,3 - One Cool Night (alternate take) -1,2,3 All titles except the alternates on Ducretet Thomson (F) 250 V 024 and DRG/Swing SW 8404. Complete session except "Blues For Frank" on EMI 7243 539651 2. ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson with Gérard Pochonet & his Orchestra: Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Michel Hausser (vibraharp) Martial Solal (piano) Jean-Pierre Sasson (guitar) Pierre Michelot (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, March 2, 1956 56 V 5672 Tenderly 56 V 5673 I Can't Give You Anything But Love 56 V 5674 East Of The Sun 56 V 5675 I Cover The Waterfront 56 V 5676 My Funny Valentine 56 V 5677 Lullaby In Rhythm Complete session on Swing (F) LDM 30.030, Dawn DLP-1113, Biograph BLP-12061, Vogue 74321 40934 2. Some sources give March 12, 1956 as recording date. ____________________________________________________________________ Modern Jazz Group: Fred Gérard, Roger Guerin (trumpet) Benny Vasseur (trombone) Teddy Hameline (alto saxophone) Jean-Louis Chautemps, Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) William Boucaya (baritone saxophone) Henri Renaud (piano) Benoit Quersin (bass) Roger Paraboschi (drums) Paris, March 5, 1956 Souscription Marcel Le Fourreur G et B All titles on Club du Disque (F) LP 66, Universal 159 823-2, Royal LD-4003 ____________________________________________________________________ Modern Jazz Group: same personnel as before Paris, March 7, 1956 Influence Piano Mecca Meet Quincy Jones Complete session on Club du Disque (F) LP 66. All titles except "Piano Mecca" on Universal 159 823-2, Royal LD-4003 ____________________________________________________________________ Modern Jazz Group: Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Henri Renaud (piano) Benoit Quersin (bass) Roger Paraboschi (drums) Paris, March 7, 1956 The Man I Love There's No You Gone With The Wind Tight Squeeze All titles on Club du Disque (F) LP 66, Universal 159 823-2, Royal LD-4003 ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson with Gérard Pochonet & his Orchestra: Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Michel Hausser (vibraharp) Martial Solal (piano) Jean-Pierre Sasson (guitar) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, March 14, 1956 56 V 5658 You Go To My Head 56 V 5659 Undecided 56 V 5660 Don't Blame Me 56 V 5661 Our Love Is Here To Stay 56 V 5662 But Not For Me 56 V 5663 Indian Summer Complete session on Swing (F) LDM 30.030, Dawn DLP-1113, Biograph BLP-12061, Vogue 74321 40934 2. ____________________________________________________________________ Jean-Pierre Sasson Quartet: Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Jean-Pierre Sasson (guitar) Paul Rovère (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, March 27, 1956 You Are My Dream Lucky Strikes My Love Supreme All titles on Columbia ESDF 1105, EMI 7243 539651 2 ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson & Gérard Dave Pochonet All Stars: Fernand Verstraete (trumpet) André Paquinet (trombone) Jo Hrasko (alto saxophone) Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Marcel Hrasko (baritone saxophone) Martial Solal (piano) Jean-Pierre Sasson (guitar) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, March 29, 1956 56 V 5747 Once Upon A Time 56 V 5748 A Distant Sound 56 V 5749 A Sunkissed Rose 56 V 5750 Portrait of Django 56 V 5741 Theme For A Brown Rose 56 V 5742 Still Waters All titles on Swing LDM 30.039 Xanadu 204, Vogue 74321 55950 2. ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson, Guy Lafitte -1 (tenor saxophone) Martial Solal (piano) Benoit Quersin (bass) Roger Paraboschi (drums) Paris, April 5, 1956 7XCL5373 Passin' Time -1 7XCL5374 Nothin' But The Soul 7XCL5375 Why Weep -1 7XCL5376 To A Mornin' Sunrise -1 All titles on Columbia (F) FP 1083, DRG/Swing SW 8404, EMI 7243 539651 2 ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson & Gérard Dave Pochonet All Stars: Charles Verstraete (trombone -1) Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Michel de Villers (baritone saxophone -1) Martial Solal (piano) Jean-Pierre Sasson (guitar -1) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, April 16, 1956 Facinating Blues -1 Lullaby Of The Leaves Let's Try Again -1 Stewing Up A Wig -1 All titles on Club Francais du Disque (F) LP 84, Jazz Anthology 30 JA 5215, Royal LD-4004. ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson & Gérard Dave Pochonet All Stars: Christian Bellest (trumpet) Charles Verstraete (trombone) Jo Hrasko (alto saxophone) Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Marcel Hrasko (baritone saxophone) Martial Solal (piano) Jean-Pierre Sasson (guitar) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, April 17, 1956 56 V 5774 Quick As A Flash 56 V 5775 The Parisian Knight 56 V 5775 Street Scene 56 V 5776 Angel Eyes 56 V 5777 To You Dear One 56 V 5778 But Not For Tonight All titles on Swing LDM 30.039, Xanadu 204, Vogue 74321 55950 2. ____________________________________________________________________ Charles Verstraete (trombone -1) Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Martial Solal (piano) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, April 18, 1956 CN1-LN Rainbow Inn -1, 2 CN2-E The World Awakes -1, 2 CN3-O Take Care Beware -1, 2 CN4-C My Heart Speaks -2 CN5-B Seeing Is Believing -1 CN6-B Yard Bird's Pet -1 All titles on Club des Amis du Disque CAM 11, CAD 3001 ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson, (tenor saxophone) Martial Solal (piano) Benoit Quersin (bass) Christian Garros (drums) Paris, April 20, 1956 You Move, You Lose Velvet Rain One Last Goodbye All titles on Columbia (F) FP 1083, DRG/Swing SW 8404, EMI 7243 539651 2 ____________________________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson & Gérard Dave Pochonet All Stars: Charles Verstraete (trombone -1) Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Michel de Villers (baritone saxophone -2) Martial Solal (piano) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, May 11, 1956 CN7-C Fine And Lucky -1 CN8-C Ow -2 CN9-C What Is This Thing Called Love -1 CN10-B Time On My Hands -1 CN11-AB Everything Happens To Me -2 CN12-D Fine And Dandy -1, 2 All titles on Club des Amis du Disque CAM 11, CAD 3001 ______________________________________________________ Lucky Thompson & Gérard Dave Pochonet All Stars: Fernand Verstraete (trumpet -3) Charles Verstraete (trombone -1) Jo Hrasko (alto saxophone -1) Lucky Thompson (tenor saxophone) Michel de Villers (alto saxophone -4, baritone saxophone -1) Henri Renaud (piano) Jean-Pierre Sasson (guitar -2) Benoit Quersin (bass) Gérard "Dave" Pochonet (drums) Paris, May 11, 1956 I Should Care -3 One For The Boys And Us -2, 4 Home Free -1, 2, 3 Bluebird Blues 1, 2, 3 Easy Going 1, 2, 3 All titles on Club Francais du Disque (F) LP 84, Jazz Anthology 30 JA 5215, Royal LD-4004. _________________________________________________________ 10" LPs: Columbia FP 1083 Lucky Thompson Ducretet Thomson 250 V 024 Lucky Thompson - Thompson Plays For Thomson 12" LPs: Club du Disque LP 66 Modern Jazz Group Dawn DLP 1113 Lucky Thompson with the Gérard Pochonet Quartet DRG Swing SW 8404 Lucky Thompson - Paris 1956 Volume One Jazz Anthology 30 JA 5215 Lucky Thompson - Paris 1956 with Dave Pochonet All Stars Jazz Anthology/America 30 AM 6155 Lucky Thompson Royal LD-4003 Lucky Thompson In Paris Vol. 1 Royal LD-4004 Lucky Thompson In Paris Vol. 2 Swing LDM 30.030 Lucky Thompson Vol. 1 Vogue LDM 30.039 Lucky Thompson & Gérard Dave Pochonet All Stars Xanadu 204 Lucky Thompson - Brown Rose CDs: EMI 7243 539651 2 Lucky Thompson - Americans Swinging In Paris Universal 159 823-3 Lucky Thompson / Modern Jazz Group (Jazz in Paris, Vol. 28) Vogue 74321 40934 2 Lucky Thompson - The Complete Vogue Recordings Vol. 1 Vogue 74321 55950 2 Lucky Thompson - The Complete Vogue Recordings Vol. 2 ... and some 45rpm EPs of course, the remainder not among these LPs or CDs. __________________________________________ All but one of the various Club LPs have been reissued, one only on a Royal LP - that was another Fresh Sound outlet. I hope this clears it up. In May, 1956, Lucky returned to New York to participate in Stan Kenton's "Cuban Fire" sessions (he had played baritone in Kenton's orchestra on some European dates just before) and recorded several sessions with the likes of Milt Jackson, Louis Armstrong, Oscar Pettiford and Quincy Jones, as well as his second ABC Paramount LP. He was back in Paris in June, 1957 - this stay in Europe lasted until 1962. Any other Paris dates you might have heard of are from that later period, including the Kenny Clarke and Sammy Price dates that are on CD.

Rumpwinders? Siderollers? Caramba!

Great! Please announce where it will be printed! Questions that come to my mind: Why didn't Coltrane record any original material like with his single Blue Note LP? Publishing modalities? Was that a problem for anybody else? What was the relationship with Savoy? It was Yusef Lateef who recorded for Blue Note and Savoy on one weekend with the same band at RVG's. What was the most curious way he contracted an artist? Why didn't he record more Kenny Dorham? That Quiet Kenny is one of his most beautiful albums! What is the session he most vividly remembers? Besides the most successful: What were the greatest flops, and were they unexpected?

Strange mixture I have, as I replaced single components whenever I had the money (but never too much to spend) to upgrade or one broke down: Turntable: Thorens TD 160 (here's another one ) with a Grado Black cartridge (I intend to upgrade with another Grado soon, although this Black sounds better than any other more expensive model I had before. I had the connection cables replaced with thick copper cable many years ago - recommend this as the original Thorens connector cables are thin and not up to par with the quality of the turntable - I have this since the early 1970's.) CD player: Pioneer PD-S501 - I love those turntables style CD players. Disc rotation is more even, so less electronics to re-calculate reading errors is needed. Connected with Oehlbach cable to the: AMP: SONY TA-420 - not my first choice but affordable when the old one gave up. I miss a mono switch. Maybe I should use a separate preamp for the turntable as recommended above. Cassette-Tapedeck: Technics RS-AZ7 - but I rarely use it. Speakers: Some rare two-way with Styropor bass by Phonak in Stuttgart originally designed for audiological tests. They sound drier than most others, reveal the recording characteristics better than others I could compare with. Connected with thick copper cables, don't know the brand. I use a CD spray which improves imaging of the CDs in particular. Headphones: Koss UR-30.