I've listened just three times and as yet it hasn't knocked TT&F off its pedestal yet. TT&F and the live experience of the Octtet playing it has been one of the musical highlights of the last few years. My first impressions of Mise are that it sounds somewhat too similar to TT&F except, and it's a big except, for the tracks with significant electronics - these are just the sort of development I was hoping Lehman would make to his 'signature' sound. Having said this, the playing and composing on Mise are top notch. I still hear a slice of Steve Coleman in the compositions and don't quite get the 'originality' tag that was so heavily applied to TT&F' sound (and by inference to thie release) - this is in no way a criticism of Lehman who I believe has developed a very interesting sound and compositional approach I just don't think it came out of nowhere (not something I've ever heard Lehman claim but many critics seemed to) I'm hoping that as I spend more time with Mise (starting right now) it will reveal to me what it's revealed to you Xybert