GregN

Oh man, just 400 or so... I should go incite something in the political forum

Having been part of negotiations with dozens of musicians concerning broadcasts of performances, I can say most were concerned with the future dispersal of the material and some declined. The contracts specified a one time broadcast and copyright protections. You are free to interpret the wishes of the artists and parse these against your interpretation of the legalities. Folks mentioned above include McCoy Tyner, Max Roach, Stanley Turrentine, Freddie Hubbard, Earl Hines, Benny Carter, Benny Goodman, Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis, Anthony Braxton , Art Hodes, Sarah Vaughan, Lester Bowie, Cecil Taylor, Bud Freeman, Betty Carter, Jimmy Smith, Steve Lacy, Ahmad Jamal, Dizzy Gillespie, etc. I think you get the idea. ← The whole VCR craze really had the NFL reelin' for a while. Whatever happened with all that? g

Mike, if you weren't here, I would be the squarest guy on the board. For that, I am grateful. Just kiddin'. But seriously, I recognize many of those band names, and trust me, I am out of the loop. Regardless, The exact total is likely hard to quantify, as many jam bands are even more obscure than those listed. And, for example (though not limited to), the jam band scene has quite comprehensively embraced taping and trading. Several thousand bands in general and in total, may not be off, however, to hyperfocus on such extrapolations of exact quantity could be misintrepreted as a diversion. So, with that said, on to your next concern: I said "It is not stealing if the artists condone it" To which you've responded "I have serious reservations about that statement. " Your reservations have a lot of qualifications. "What about the label..." and so on. Good points, kind of, except that the main focus on this thread has been on artist rights. The label, mgt, etc.. are all implied. I believe that if an artist enters into a relationship with a label that does not allow taping of shows, and said artist doesn't abide then serious legal issues should rightly ensue. Not sure your objections or reservations fly here. They certainly aren't logically sufficient to negate much of anything, if that were indeed your intent. It is interesting that no one has really shown how the economic model is possibly flawed. I mean, it could be, heck I don't know. g p.s. I have read elsewhere that Metheny, Scofield, Hunter, and many other jazz artists allow taping. Is this true? I would be interested in knowing if it is encouraged by their label or not. If the model works, and the labels would know, they would likely encourage it. I really am intrigued by this whole concept. Can't wait to hear where the boys from organissimo weigh in on this somewhat controversial subject. I can officially decree that it is at least worth considering.

Music is about communication. Things can be accessible AND smart. With that said, best of luck with your recording. Recording can be quite revealing and fun.

I actually tend to agree with most, if not all, of what John is saying here. Moreover, the taping of shows helps balance against the injustices and lack of ethics in modern day radio programming. (Not that it was ever perfect) Where the radio no longer presents itself as a viable avenue for fanbase development, tape trading takes over. It also has taken on a strong subcultural vibe as a serious hobby. Dave Matthew's has capitalized greatly on this. Metheny has come over. See below, the list IS long. It is a marketing strategy that allows many bands to profit in markets otherwise difficult to develop and maintain. At any rate, an artist'(s)' shared performance can inspire folks to attend future shows. The whole culture of tape trading also takes on a fervor of "fishing" for the best shows. Or attending every possible show in order to get the very best tapes. I was totally against the concept when I first heard of it, and I can understand the resistance to it, however, it certainly has its merits. Thousands of bands now embrace it, and for good reason. It works. Does it work for everyone at this point? I can only speak for myself, if you were to give me a live performance of a band I previously never heard, and I really dig it, I will buy their studio release or releases. Most of the tape traders to whom I have spoken, say the same thing. I can only believe them. My friends, when I was young, used to tape songs off of the radio. The ones they really got into, they went to the store to buy the album. The taping was a hobby that encourage their general love of music, it encouraged a greater participation of the general consumption of music. Many kids don't care for music. A hobby that encourages concert going and music loving, can't be all bad. Finally, it is not stealing if the artists condone it. Just A Few Bands Who Have Embraced Taping

Of course not. But it is a matter of travel logistics on this end. Something huge just came in for the midwest on that date (not that the Blues Alley isn't also huge) , AND we want to build a tour around D.C. A few extra months will make tour building a bit easier for D.C. and we don't have to worry about building a tour around the midwest thing, as it is fairly close to home. g

I will know tomorrow a.m., I believe. But I am shooting for Feb of next year.

Oh fine, now that you know I am giggin' elsewhere you want to set up the ticket giveaway. I see how it is here. lol, nice. But seriously, I'll spread the word to my Detroit friends (outside the board). And a ticket giveaway could be a nice gesture. Nicer if I were gettin' some, but ya know, it would still be cool. g

That's pretty much what happened too. It was great to hear the band live! ← AND Me three! I Organissimo! Details? The first two tunes had everybody transfixed (including the grizzled doorman in the Sex Pistols t-shirt, who shed his jaded look and stood right in front of the bandstand, grooving, till he kind of had to force himself back to work at his post)-- and it just got better from there! So many great tunes, "Smoking Section" "Punkin Pie" "Brother Ray" and Jim's left foot on that cover of "Why Not?" was like the heartbeat of the universe -- wow -- I couldn't even applaud the great solos on that number because I was just riveted by that (literally??!!) walking bassline! ← "The first two tunes had everybody transfixed (including the grizzled doorman in the Sex Pistols t-shirt, who shed his jaded look and stood right in front of the bandstand, grooving, till he kind of had to force himself back to work at his post)-- and it just got better from there!" The imagery here is simply awesome!! lol Many thanks for that. g

Tiny Grimes is one of my favorites. There is a lot of 'life' in his playing. g

We will be shooting for another east coast mini tour in Feb. So it is quite likely that Jim and the boys will be closer than D.C. to ya. G

Actually, that makes Philly more likely. Again, many clubs are booked until early next year. So, a Philly gig in November was lookin' bleak.

The Blues Alley Gig is being rescheduled to a later date. Likely early Feb. g

Drive safely my friend. Oh, and check yo' email. g

Ask your friend if he/she would sell said amp for 150.00! Otherwise, a solid state practice amp may be in your future. There are some good ones, for sure. This Looks Like A Good Option Have fun! g

For everyone over 21, who comes to the Chicago show, the roll-up girls are on me... Unless, Sheldon already has them covered

Yeah, I spoke with the owner. He wants the fellas back and was apologetic about the low turnout. "Weeknight, beautiful fall day (color tours), and generally a slow month...". But he and I knew before hand that this was likely. Most importantly, Peter dug the show immensely. He wants the fellas back, this time with a better date and bigger send up. And, Jim, he thought your socks were cool! "Black light on those feet...white socks, man, he has got to keep that... very cool!" Peter has a very nice venue, and we hope to do more business with him in the future. He certainly is game. At any rate, I am with you Alexander. I would have called out for Peaches as well. I am glad you did. Greg

That's pretty much what happened too. It was great to hear the band live! ← ← Me too! ← The wanting of details part.

That's pretty much what happened too. It was great to hear the band live! ← ← Me too!

Just checked out your site, and audio, smokin'! If I weren't giggin' that night, I would without a doubt be there! This should be a great night of music. Greg

Sheldon... I love you man!! You are going to get a bigman hug from me when we meet. ← ← o.k. I'll buy ya a beer (no comments from the peanut gallery).

Keep Tabs On The Fellas

It can be seen here Jim just put that cool calender up on the front or home page. Point your mouse to the date in question and bam... pretty neat.

Are you talkin' about that chick in the photo??? Grab what? Why I never... By the way, I will be at Baker's this month. And if you show, I will that this (drink) be thine, then. Though, this isn't to say that I will do it.

You know, with the letters in GregN you can almost spell renege! EDIT: Sorry Greg. Just jumped on the bandwagon for a second there. ← lmao, actually that was pretty good. Wish I were on the giving one of that...but then...