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Why are the reputations of US composers so pianissimo?
MomsMobley replied to A Lark Ascending's topic in Classical Discussion
Re: Ives, it's a motherfucking corporate abomination how his catalog has been treated. Check out what Columbia did in the 1960s and 70s and what's ever come out on CD even once, let alone well compiled once and then re- re- re- re- packaged for subsequent gens & collectors of packaging / "improved" mastering. That's just the most obvious-- but also the most important-- example, so one could in a relatively small package have access to Ives': symphonies, tone poems, string quartets, other chamber pieces, piano music, choral music, some (if not all) songs. One can get most (tho' not all) of that elsewhere and unbeknownst to many, one of the great contempo Ives programs was recorded for and released by German EMI under Ingo Metzmacher's "wand" Especially now with RCA / Columbia ("Sony") one, I'd argue their should also be a Samuel Barber box, even if that ends up confusing matters as "adagio" and "Knoxville Summer of 1915" lovers try to reconcile the piano sonata and James Joyce and other 'outre' references etc And that's just the monuments! We can talk about the Nonesuch and Albany and New Albion (Lou Harrison!) and Delos and Naxos labels (at their respective peaks) elsewhere. But what was once "obvious" and should be as both destination and starting point has been rendered needlessly "obscure" and diffuse... ** ** ** ya'll know Beroff's Prokofiev, Bartok and Messiaen (for starters) I'm sure... -
idris muhammad exists ** ** ** **
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Aeolian Haydn after Landon once ubiquitous now perhaps underrated ** **
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Elliot Carter Nonesuch Retrospective...Thoughts?
MomsMobley replied to greggery peccary's topic in Classical Discussion
Kalish Zukofsky EC Duo not in the box though the Double Concerto from the same album is Oppens Arditti good elsewhere -
Sam Manning Lingam Vitae is on Volume 2
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Weinberg / Vainberg (Clap Hands Here Comes Mieczyslaw)
MomsMobley replied to MomsMobley's topic in Classical Discussion
piano piano sonata sonata murray mclachlan -
Messiaen /Loriod Early(?) Piano Recordings
MomsMobley replied to JSngry's topic in Classical Discussion
carl-axel dominique yvonne loriod 'early bird' -
bryant park 1969 important to know on numerous levels October 15? reprint of Village Voice announcement-- http://www.villagevoice.com/news/vietnam-1969-the-moratorium-movement-6669739
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peter brotzmann heather leigh duo (>>> all "chicago ____ -tet recordings / performances combined but even if one enjoys those sounds, this still greater, brotz included.)
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Sanborn takes off at 3:10 *** Conway Twitty a great performer & substive artist, one of the best ever to sustain mainstream career, wild that he was legit Phillies prospect before the Army got him
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i don't often have use for Phil Woods but Freda Payne, Walter Perkins, Hank Jones, Jim Hall... *** i nearly always have immense use for Frank Lowe, Billy Bang, Denis Charles, Donald Garrett
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Smoker was great; not precisely (by any means) the white Lester Bowie but a similar range (St. Louis <----> Davenport) though Paul looking pop more likely to be 1920s than '80s / '90s. What's fellow Iowan Phil Haynes going to do now? All the Smoker Trio sides, Smoker / Golia (there might be live Smoker / Golia / Nels Cline / Mintz / Filiano tapes around) etc +++. Chuck, did you know Paul had serious heart troubles years ago and overcame them? https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/cardiology/patient-care/patient-stories/paul.aspx Hard to tell when he was 'off the scene' because I just figured he was teaching and NYC 'establishments' too ignorant &/or poor to bring him East.
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do you know Matacic, Bayreuth '59?
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Oh Craft is OK-- all of 1950s and 1960s recordings are at least that (most of his later ones too though sometimes there are issues with vocalists) and better conceived than many but I can't abide those sonorities except as a certain point in discography / performance practice. File with something like, I dunno... Hindemith's performing edition of L'Orfeo? I mistyped above btw, it's not Harnoncourt I on Teldec but rather Jurgen Jurgens that's of similar vintage / style as Harnoncourt's first St Matthew. Jurgens Vespers doesn't seem to be on youtube but here's his L'Orfeo from a few years later, give an idea of the soundworld-- *** *** there's a good Konrad Junghanel Vespers on Deutsch Harmonia Mundi but ultimately I found it too gentle or restrained, though not in an anemic (Parrott) or flashy yet po'faced way (Gardiner).
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no no No No NO NO-- I strongly suggest you buy neither though Parrott does a # interesting things, one voice per part inc. Nigel Rogers. Gardiner had a chorus, yes, and they're good-- or at least 'impressive' in Handel and Purcell but... you can do much better. In Monteverdi he's a stiff, hyped by Limey press and overexposed by major label machine, Polygram in the U.S. back then. Of that era '80s / '90s Vespers, William Christie cond. Les Arts Florissants is highly recommended, likewise Gabriel Garrido cond. Ensemble Elyna, though I believe that's out of print at present. Jordi Savall and Rene Jacobs are reasonable third choices, I like it better than Herreweghe on Harmonia Mundi but both are a little too cool. 2000s you have Rinaldo Allesandrini-- I'd put that in top 3 all-time. Unless you're a scholar or buy vinyl for $1 disc (in which go crazy), avoid older versions except for Harnoncourt 1 on Teldec, not to be confused with the much more common later re-recording; like H's first St Matthew, for example, it's sometimes creaky but inspired. I'm passing over textual issues for now. Allesandrini Christie *** Garrido live
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Attn: Larry Kart, Chuck Nessa, John Litweiler, how many of these folks ya'll recognize? Not realizing I should, I at first didn't. at 2:00: "Hey Richard, come and dig this cat's... Pageboy."
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for those with a passion for what's between your legs / others Max Reger has to be #1 there's some v. interesting Fuermann / Reger worth hearing & don't forget the cello sonatas either echoing Schnittke
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http://drewfriedman.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-saga-of-frank-sinatra-jr.html
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pretty hot Tony Williams tribute from Merzbow, not posting as 'joke' though only post-Webern / Varese / Cage / Pierres Henry / Schaeffer adepts will fully enjoy, ring modulator-era Miles Davis fans also
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a brief introduction, starting with the superb chamber music violin sonata string trio string quartet string quintnet, purposely choosing this movement because some consider it 'lesser' T for its wanderings; I disagree! & sometimes, in between Brahms & Dvorak, Dvorak & Herzogenberg, Herzogenberg & Reger...
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American String Quartets 1950-1970 (VoxBox)
MomsMobley replied to JSngry's topic in Classical Discussion
Solid anthology, I wouldn't pay more than $10 though, it's sorta thing that might at times be 'rare' esp. since (I'm near certain) you can get all works elsewhere... Hold fire and get Jacob Druckman / Group for Contemporary Music disc on Naxos (reissue of CD originally on Koch) with the $$$ you've saved, snag same label / band's Wolpe recital then, if you have bones leftover, splurge a for the Leon Kirchner / Orion Quartet 2-cd on Albany don't worry / wait / listen elsewhere Cage, Feldman, Crumb -
Breaking up is hard to do or The meaning of the blues
MomsMobley replied to page's topic in Miscellaneous Music
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