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eke bbb, can you please give more informations about this monk recording from timme rosenkranz? i thought the earliest monk recording of his tune was with dizzy´s big band from around jun./jul. 1946. is this recording avaiable elswhere? i know timme´s recordings from garner, byas and some others but monk? keep boppin´ marcel

hello, swinging swede, thanks for this electrifying informations! the two rlr records "brown and dolphy - together 1954" and "brown - the last concert" are indeed on the philology (unofficial) label. this was a discussion a few months ago here: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...topic=22517&hl= there is also on philology (this time official release) a chet baker concert with twardzik from mainz, september 21, 1955. i try to get the book "bouncin´ with bartok" the biography of richard "dick" twardzik by jack chambers. in the meantime you can read a chapter here: http://www.jazzitude.com/chambers_sadwalk01.htm but there is a different date for the cologne concert: september 26, 1955 because at october 9, 1955 the group was in strasbourg, france. btw the concert at the börsensaal in cologne was presented by gigi campi, a legendary person in the german jazz history (especial in cologne in the 50´s). he was owner of a ice cream bar (type of café) and produced jazz concerts there. he also had his own recording label "mod" and recorded the new stars hans koller, jutta hipp among others. (now legendary recordings for collectors). i think he is still alive but has lost interest in jazz....? you can get the legendary "mod" recordings on two cd´s here: www.jazzprojekte.de that´s all i know. keep boppin´ marcel

the only information i found about king guion is, that he was tenor and bariton saxophonist with ben pollack in 1937 and in 1943 with harry james band. it is said that the pianist dick hyman made his first recordings with king guion. i don´t know if guion played with his orchestra in the "jazz idiom". keep boppin´ marcel

hello, i have this box also and i think the sound is absolutly horrible.(and i´m not a friend of hi-fi!) for example: there is an interview with duke from his visit to england, called "a souvenir from d.e.". the sound is so terrible that it´s difficult to understand even a word. sounds like in a box. i would prefer the media 7 masters of jazz series (out of print) or better the "chronological classics" series. here´s a link about this box: http://www.depanorama.net/dems/03dems1d.htm The History 40 CD set 03/1 DEMS 22/1 See DEMS 003/17/3 and 00/3-21. Here is a rough comparison between the Classics CDs (originating in France), and the 40 CD set as I have it (label "History" originating in Germany). The comparison here is based on the written information on the CDs, not on systematically listening comparison. The Classics set aims at containing all studio masters from the period covered. The two sets are much alike, so much, that one is tempted to believe that History has copied the material from Classics. In The Classics set each CD has 22-24 numbers, against 19-20 on each CD in the History 40 CD set. The sound is somewhat different, the Classics apparently aiming more for the old 78- sound, but of course without the scratches, the History set more for an analytic sound. The History set consists of 20 double-CDs in jewel cases, with an inlay with the same introductory article about Ellington in each (in German and in English), and with a list of numbers with dates and personnel, but no other discographical information such as take-numbers, original issues etc. The Classics have a common introductory article (in English) in each single CD, but also a small article about the specific recordings on the CD in question, and complete discographical information. Generally there seems to be more accuracy in the overall production of the Classics than in the History set. Numbers of the Classics set for the period covered by History (1924 - 1946) are: 539, 542, 550, 559, 569, 573, 586, 596, 605, 616, 626, 637, 646, 659, 666, 675, 687, 700, 717, 726, 747, 765, 780, 790, 805, 820, 851, 867, 881, 915, 951, 985, 1015. (33 CDs) The History set's 20 double CDs have the numbers: 20.4140-302 - 20.4159-302, and "cover" the period 1924 - 1947. Both Classics and History include only master-takes, not alternates. As there are more titles on a Classics CD than on a History CD, I do not compare CD to CD, but I state in the following, where there are differences, compared as sets, using the numbers of the History set's double-CDs as point of reference: 40; 42; 43; 44; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 54; 56 and 57 have all the same numbers as the Classics set. 41: Same numbers as the Classics, except that History has not East St. Louis Toodle-O 2944-A from Mar28, and The Ozzie Ware items from Dec28: Hit Me in the Nose Blues and It's All Comin' Home to You 45: Same numbers as the Classics set, but Twelfth Street Rag is repeated from 44! 51: Same numbers as the Classics set, but strangely missing the 3 recordings from 20Mar39 ("Fat Stuff" Serenade by the Rex Stewart group, and Pussy Willow and Subtle Lament by the Ellington Orchestra) 52: Same numbers as the Classics set, but History has here the 2 numbers from V- Disc: I'm Checking Out-Goom Bye and Tootin' Through the Roof, recorded 24Nov39, which are placed out of order on Classics 867 (1942-1944) 53: Same numbers as the Classics set, but strangely missing the last 4 numbers from Classics 780, and the first 20 (!) numbers from Classics 790. Thus 24 recordings from 14oct39 until 15Feb40 are missing in the History set (The only two titles from that period in the History set are from 15Feb40, Toasted Pickle and Give It Up by the Cootie Williams group). Among the missing titles are the first duets with Blanton and the first solos by Ben Webster as a permanent member of the band. 55. Same numbers as the Classics set. So much the same, that the two V-Discs from 24Nov39, I'm Checkin' Out-Goom Bye and Tootin' Through the Roof, which were on History 52 are repeated here! 58. No 1-10: Same numbers as the Classics set, that for the moment didn't go further (Classics 1015). This seems to have caused the people behind the History set some trouble, because the History no. 58 continues with The Liberian Suite from 24Dec47 (the well known CBS recording) and the second part of the Carnegie Hall concert 4Jan46. 59. First CD contains the first part of the above mentioned Carnegie Hall concert of 4Jan46. The second CD contains the first part of the Carnegie Hall concert of 27Dec47. Here the History set ends. It looks like it is much inspired by the Classics set or perhaps copying the Classics, but not so thoroughly carried out. Still both sets are full of wonderful music. Some of the recordings (from the 1930's) are hard to get on CD elsewhere. Bjarne Busk See also Bill Bailey's article in DESUK's Newsletter "Blue Light" Vol. 8 No 4 pages 10 and11. DEMS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- keep boppin´ marcel

oh, yes, sorry! i have to read more accurate!! and i make a mistake to say that on the steeplechase cd are only three tracks. there are four tunes! to answer your question, here is the link to the storyville site and it seems that sweet georgia brown is the only title identical with the titles on the steeplechase cd. but they don´t mentioned archie shepp and lars gullin, so, again not great help from me http://www.storyville-records.com/June2005/NHOP.htm hm. now i realize that my post is not helpful.....forget it, never mind keep boppin´ marcel

hi, eke bbb, according to the lars gullin discography, there are three tunes with tete: ARCHIE SHEPP/LARS GULLIN QUINTET "THE HOUSE I LIVE IN" Archie Shepp ts, Lars Gullin bs, Tete Montoliu p, Niels-Henning Ørsted-Pedersen b, Alex Riel dr. Copenhagen, November 21, 1963 You Stepped Out of a Dream, I Should Care, Sweet Georgia Brown SteepleChase SCCD 36013 i´m not at home in this moment, so i will check my cd later at night if that´s right. keep boppin´ marcel

yes, in the meantime, i´ve learned that parker is probably not in cootie´s band at this session. thank you all for your answers! keep boppin´ marcel

hello, someone knows where i can find this item? 53089. One Night Stand. February 5, 1945. Program #526. AFRS. A band remote from the Savoy Ballroom, New York City. The first tune is, "The Rhythm Is Jumping." Charlie Parker was in the sextette at this time, but is not mentioned in the credits. Cootie Williams and His Orchestra, Lem Johnson (vocal), Sam Taylor (tenor sax), Charlie Parker (? alto), Al Jarvis (piano), Carl Pruitt (bass), Les Payne (drums). 29:56. Audio condition: Very good to excellent. Complete. this is mentioned in no(!) charlie parker discography, so maybe he´s not on it... can somebody help? keep boppin´ marcel

pianist peck kelley (sometimes kelly) keep boppin´ marcel

altoist chick maures together with tony fruscella!!! keep boppin´ marcel

"nardis" composed by miles davis and never(!) recorded by him. i like bill evans´ version live at birdland. keep boppin´ marcel

chi-chi by charlie parker (30.jul.53) first recorded by max roach (10.apr.53) ´round midnight by thelonious monk (with dizzy gillespie´s orchestra; poss. 18.jun-6.jul.46) first recorded by cootie williams (the spooky hour; 22.aug.44) keep boppin´ marcel

ahh, it´s still there: http://store.yahoo.com/jazzman4133/lionhameurco.html keep boppin´ marcel

that´s the entry in the clifford brown discography by bob weir (names & numbers, almere 2004): 12: lionel hampton and his orchestra: radio bc, concert, konserthuset, stockholm, sweden. 15 september 1953: lionel hampton, vib,vcl,an, clifford brown, art farmer, quincy jones, walter williams, t, al hayse, jimmy cleveland, george buster cooper, tb, gigi gryce, as, anthony ortega, fl,cl,as, clifford scott, clifford solomon, ts, oscar estelle, bs, george wallington,p, billy mackel,elg, monk montgomery, b, alan dawson, d, curly hamner, d, tap dancing, bill doggett, arr, a) summertime 3:57 b) on the sunny side of the street - vcl lh & band 4:05 c) medley: oh, rock / when the saints go marching in - vcl band 7:10 d) how high the moon 4:35 e) star dust 3:55 f) i only have eyes for you 4:30 g) blue boy- arr bd 9:23 a) - g) LP: international association of jazz record collectors iajrc-31 CD: century(J)cejc00106 natasha ni.4010 royal jazz (F)rjd-517 stash(J)abcj-16 cecc00097 g) lp: musica jazz (i) 2mjp-1035 nb: 1. brownie not on blues(opener)4:13 by hamp & rhythm section. 2. brownie solos only on blue boy (second t solo) 3. brownie toured europe and north africa with hamp and orch. from 6 september to early december 1953, appearing at 87 concerts. catalano in his brownie biography mentioned at page 83 that phil schaap sais, brownie solos also on f) (second solo). a few months ago i saw the iajrc lp on http://www.jazzmanrecords.com/ keep boppin´ marcel

i like the new cd "in my time" very much. not only because there are two of my favourite musicaians on it (sean jones and russell malone). gerald wilson´s writing has something "special". a very style of his own, i can´t explaine it right, i´m not a musician, but i "feel" something, when i hear his compositions and arrangements! i "discovered" also an old "pacific jazz" lp in my collection (i wasn´t aware of it) from the 60´s called "you better belive it". very, very good music! i also like his big band recordings from the mid to end 40´s (on "chronological classics). keep boppin´ marcel

for more complete film clips of lady day i would prefer this dvd: as far as i know it´s the most complete collection of billie holiday on film. see also this post from a few months ago: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...topic=18884&hl= keep boppin´ marcel

The Post-Standard, Syracuse - March 13, 1955. One gig Bird would never make.... this is from this wonderful site about the bird: http://www.birdlives.co.uk/ keep boppin´ marcel

hello, there are six cd´s out of the naxos jazz legends label (between 2000 and 2004): the king cole trio transcriptions 1938 - 1943 with pauline and her perils, the dreamers, maxene johnson(from standard, d&s, keystone, excelsior, capitol, premier,atlas). 124 wonderful tracks of the early king cole trio(s). keep swingin´ marcel

thank you - brownie and couw - for that quick clearing!!

it isn´t prez, but who is it? someone knows?

thanks christiern, chuck nessa and michael fitzgerald for your informations! good to know that this historical archives are not gone forever and maybe sometimes new items will come to light and will be issued. this people were in the right times at the right places. thanks again. keep boppin´ marcel

yes, this wonderful session is original on an esoteric lp (i think newman´s own label, because i have an al haig session on esoteric records reissued on fresh sound cd from 1954 and there it´s written "recorded in the esoteric studios, new york city by jerry newman") and another one on "period" also recorded by newman. -- sonny berman is on cool & blue cd 111 (switzerland) from 1993 and maybe long oop. there are also two cd´s on "high note" (hcd 7066 and hcd 7082) with charlie ventura and bill harris live at the three deuces 1947 with the wonderful dave tough on drums recorded by jerry newman "on location". very fine music! i wonder where are the archives from people like jerry newman (minton´s), bob andrews (west coast), boris rose (ny radio) and timme rosenkrantz (jam sessions) are now located?? anybody knows something about that? are there any discographies avaiable about that historical recordings? keep boppin´ marcel

hazy osterwald! he played vibes at the paris jazzfestival 1949 in the farewll blues at the end of the concert together with bird, miles, bill coleman, lips page, dorham, bechet, byas, moody, haig, potter, roach! wow! he is still alive and swinging in his 80´s! jean "toots" thielemans also! (also at that festival on guitar). keep boppin´ marcel

It that counting or not counting versions that use the Cherokee head? ← only the break-down first take of 26. nov. 45 has ray noble´s melody, all other nine are parker´s koko. here they are: 26.nov.45 savoy take 2 13.sep.47 band for bonds 1 20.sep.47 band for bonds 2 29.sep.47 carnegie hall 08.nov.47 band for bonds 3 04.sep.48 royal roost possibly 28.mar.-10.apr.49(?)or 11.nov.-23.nov.47 argyle lounge or pershing ballroom 24.dec.49 carnegie hall unkn.50 or ?47 washington cherokee versions are: jan./mar.42 monroe´s fall 43 or c.sep.42(pos.41) vic damon mar.-apr.46 jubilee 186 4.11.18.or25.jun.50 william henry apartment 25.feb.54 stan kenton o.k., i know, this was only for bird afficionados, sorry! keep boppin´ marcel

hi, mr. jazzmann, there are ten versions of "koko" by charlie parker. the one used in the film is the famouse master-take, take 2, from the first session under his own name (charlie parker´s ree-boppers) for savoy, monday, november 26, 1945 with dizzy, thornton aka hakim, russell and roach. i saw the film only once "years" ago and (maybe i´m wrong) but can´t we see the records when the main character (? matt damon) put them on the record player? there is also the original film soundtrack avaiable. hope that helps. keep boppin´ marcel