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Just wanted to bring this thread back up. This is a really good CD with one of the top WORKING organ groups today. These guys are smoking and it's a good live recording of what you might typically hear on a Tuesday night at Smoke NYC.
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Like Someone In Love on "Lush Life." Drums, Bass, Tenor...wow...
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I was thinking about getting a synth with as good as possible Rhodes, Wulitzer Electric Piano and Acoustic Piano sounds. Someone suggested a Nord Electro 2, but the price tag is prohibitive for me... Anybody have any suggestions or shout outs for the Nord? I have a Hammond XK2...is there any way to get a Nord 2 rack mount and midi it to my XK??? I have absolutely NO idea about this stuff since all I do is play a real B3 or occassionally turn on the XK2 and play as is.
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I can't argue that you'd like Coltrane's Sound better. It's a real close call for anybody. However, don't think I'd call Giant Steps a "Little Hopper" by ANY stretch of the imagination!
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Gerard was taught by Groove Holmes, so good call there! He is a great organist, but I have not heard this CD. ← He doesn't actually get a lot of solo space on the CD from my admittedly brief encounter with it. Recall he did some very nice stuff on "Out Of Nowhere" though. Got the feeling he'd rather be playing modern R&B or smooth jazz. However, factor in that I WISH I was good enough to be playing with James Carter at the Blue Note. It was an odd mix of styles....Groove holmesian organ, Avant sax and blood ulmer (avant blues guy) playing R Kelly tunes.... Plus the recording of the organ was bad. Distorted overall and unclear in the low end. Should have gone direct for the bass and some of the top at least. He was driving it a little too hard to mic the whole caboose imho. Be interested to hear some other's take on the CD. Don't want to dissuade anyone from picking it up. Be your own judge.
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Yes, I have to apologize. There are 6 tracks and they are almost all 10 plus minutes each. So, time-wise, I guess the CD does fit into the usual minutes for a CD. Sorry about that, my mistake. However, guess I was just Fast Forwarding so much, the CD just SEEMED shorter. . Anyway, I already returned it to the store and exchanged it for James Brown's "Sex Machine" and "The Payback" CDs. Much more enjoyable. . When I made the return, the clerk asked "What, no love for James Carter." "Not on this one at least" I replied. Also, interesting to hear a report about this band live. That's the feeling I got from the CD, not much content to the performances...a lot of show. And that's coming from someone who really doesn't mind that as long as it's honest. But emotional honesty or authenticity didn't come across to me at least. Thought the organist was in the Groove Holmes mold but didn't reach me, although he's probably a good player.
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That even makes me more mad they only put 5 songs on this. For 16 bucks no less.... Blue Note could barely get away with that in the LP era. For what you have to shell out these days for a new major label jazz release, there's got to be more of an effort imho.
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I guess I'm not so much saying that Carter isn't a good player as...this isn't a good record. I got the feeling with only 5 tunes...and a LIVE album no less...that they didn't have enough useable material to choose from. And considering what they did choose, well it's not all that great. The OPEN with a ballad. That kind of says it all.
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A lot of respect for what Carter is trying to do....seemingly break away from the pack. However, in my VERY limited knowledge of him...it comes off kind of gimmicky for whatever reasons or "forceabley" different. Of course, I really shouldn't judge, don't know a lot about him. Got a version of him doing Laura with Lonnie Smith in which he is absolutely amazing. Still, I'm partial to guys like Eric Alexander. The organ records on which he is a part of always sound great to me.
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Picked this CD up yesterday. Have to say it is a pretty big dissappointment. It's culled from a live set at the Blue Note...yet...there's only FIVE tunes on it (and no, they're not particularly long either.) And what is on there is pretty scattered thematically. A horrible version by Blood Ulmer of Howlin' Wolf's "Lilttle Red Rooster" seques into R. Kelly's "I Believe I Could Fly"...uggg. Lot's of avant blowing too with James trying to impress Hamiett it seems, but it just doesn't go all that well with the organ backing. Patton's "Understanding" is a 100% success in this...so it CAN work. Anyway, taking this disc back to the store today for a refund.
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Yeah, that's just one of the greatest shots of Coltrane ever!
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Just a heads up since a lot of folks will probably be taking a holiday this weekend. I've been listening to Trane's "Giant Steps" quite a bit lately, so this one was a no brainer for me. Hope to have a good discussion on this one.
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Yes Caravan of Dreams was great....but it was but a blip on the radar screen I dare say. How it ever happened I'll never know. I true anomoly. To my knowledge Ft. Worth does not now, or ever has had in at least the last 25 years....a jazz club (even Caravan wasn't that, although they brought great jazz acts in.)
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Hey man, Ornette might have COME from Ft. Worth. But it is about one of the most culturally desolate places on earth. Go down to the Ft. Worth Stockyards or Billy Bob's Texas and you'll see what FW is all about. Rednecks and more rednecks. Heck, they think a bad blues-rock band is high culture.
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Well, just pop Ornette in your CD player. I haven't listened to radio for my music in years. Sad but true. Last time I listened to a radio station was KUT's Paul Ray's Jazz in the afternoon. Used to run 2 or 3 hours every weekday. That got cancelled a few years back, and I've since turned the radio off. CDs only these days. However, that San Antonio jazz station kicks ass. Wish I could hear them up here in Austin in my car.
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Hey...let's all make Ornette Coleman requests....here's the place to do it.... KNTUjukebox@unt.edu
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What's funny to me is.... In my experience recently, the most appealing form of jazz to college kids IS avant guarde!!!! Bring Tom Harrell down to Austin and they got a decent crowd in the small jazz club here. Bring Ken Vandermark and it's packed down at the big rock venue!!!!
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Of course, there's no "greatest." That said, to me, "Giant Steps" sounds like the history and future of jazz saxophone all rolled into one of the most amazingly soulful and technical achievements possible on any instrument.
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Seems like KNTU is going the same way as my KUT here in Austin, as is everything in America right now. Conservative, boring, non-inclusive, ect. That's a drag Jim, especially the hanging up on you (that's really inexcusable, and I'd contact some higher-ups on that). But, I can't say I'm surprised given the climate we live in these days.
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Well, I think the DJs at KNTU are communications majors. That ought to tell you something.
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I got the CD box set for 43 dollars.
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The organist is Don Patterson. 100% confirmed.
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I've got Lee Morgan doing the theme from "Midnight Cowboy" on the Blue Note sampler CD. It's not a jazz vehicle, but Lee blows beautifully and the tune is really hypnotic to my ears. Does anybody know the origins of the cut? Is it the actually track that was in the movie and Lee just happened to play on it....or what? Thanks for any help.