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I would ask you the same question on who gets to determine what is and isn't offensive. Just those who take no offense to something? Don't I get to determine what is offensive to me? Doesn't a woman get to determine what is offensive to them? Denying someone the right to express that offense becomes its own form of censorship. Censorship comes from both the Left and the Right. And I don't see any tyranny involved here. No one on this thread is lobbying for the stupid "Baby, It's Cold Outside" song to be banned, just calling it out for what it appears to be in 2018. And certainly "Blazing Saddles" could get met today. Since when does perceived offensiveness stop Hollywood movies from getting made, if they are seen as something that will sell tickets? "Eight Miles High", a record a million times better than "Money for Nothing", was banned because it was incorrectly accused of being a "drug" song. Why no protest over that? Certainly, Mark Knopfler knew full well in 1984 he would be hitting a hot button with that line. He chose to go there, and decisions have consequences. I never did like the song, or the album musically, apart from the line. It represented the dumbing down of his lyrics, which had been at times fairly profound up to that point, and of his music. 'Brothers in Arms' was the death of Dire Straits to me, who I really loved before that. And yet, 'Brothers in Arms' is by far the top-selling Dire Straits /Mark Knopfler album.

Amen. Two women in my close extended family, generation down from me, have been rape victims, and both still wear the psychic scars from it every day. Something that was seen as cute and funny in 1944 can be seen as offensive in 2018. In this case, that represents growth in our culture I don't have a problem with anyone who wants to perform or listen to the song, but I have no desire to do either. Yes, our actions and choices, as individuals and as a culture, have consequences.

It's a creepy song. There are much, much creepier songs, like the ones from Emanem about chopping up his wife and going with his daughter to throw her remains in the ocean, or "Timothy" by the Buoy's about eating the poor guy. Don't need to ban a song like "Baby. It's Cold Outside", but don't need to choose to play/listen to it, either. Me, I would have banned the Emanem songs, but understand why others wouldn't due to first amendment rights. For that matter, I lived in Huntsville, Alabama in 1965, and the stations there banned "Eve of Destruction", likely for the lines "Think of the hate there is in Red China, then take a look around to Selma, Alabama". #1 song in the nation, and I never knew it existed until I heard it when visiting relatives in Pittsburgh.

Didn't realize the Moody Blues were in. I really stopped paying attention a long time ago due to goofy choices and snubs. Snubs include Jethro Tull, Chaka Khan & Rufus, Todd Rundgren, King Crimson, Smith, right? And why not John Coltrane, since they do influential artists from other musical fields?

Maz turned the double play better than any 2B who ever lived.

I'm good with the Zombies (five or six albums worth of really good material, even if it was ignored then) and the Cure. But Def Leppard? And I refuse to take any of it seriously until Jethro Tull and the Moody Blues and King Crimson are in. Def Leppard and Janice Jackson in the ROCK hall of fame and Jethro Tull and the Moody Blues and King Crimson not, and I'm supposed to take this seriously? Come on.

NRBQ - High Noon 5CD retrospective, looking for interesting trade. PM if interested.

Well this doesn't sound good: recent health issues required Keith Jarrett to cancel all of his engagements for 2018, starting with the concert at Carnegie Hall in New York scheduled on March 21st and including his announced solo performance in Venice on September 29th.

As do extended family, friends, neighbors, co-workers and almost everyone else in the other 99.999% of the population. And we will think all of them have/do too much of something. I'm thankful to have a wife who is accepting and even somewhat encouraging of my music collection.

Count me as eventually in on this one.

I may be a minority of one, but I do care about the packaging of my CD's, PD or otherwise, and am willing to pay for something nice that I can hold in my hands, strongly prefer avid packages (with original album art including liner notes) to real gone jazz, etc. Reading online and listening online don't work for me on any number of levels.

Ibn Ali makes sense to me. I just don't see it being Dennis or Powell,

Maybe to keep their selling price low, but still present really good liner notes, etc.

What a great series of albums, especially "Expansions" and "Extensions", but they're all wonderful (and varied).

Dumb question (one of my specialties), what would be the difference between a CD and a CD-R for me the consumer? I understand the difference in how they are created.

All 21 disks are present in my unnumbered set. Though I haven't played them or even removed them from the sleeves yet. My set was direct from Importcds.

Lyons book has been claimed. Others will be donated to Better World Books in a few days if no takers.

Thats our family internet filter.

I have a fair amount of Jazz and Blues material from them. Very thorough presentations, and sound is OK (though not spectacular).

"In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" live in NYC 1978 by Dickey Betts and Great Southern. Glorious. He wasn't just "the other guitarist" to Duane Allman and Warren Haynes, though it certainly wouldn't bother me to never hear "Ramblin' Man" again...

Massey was a trumpet player, though for a long time I also figured he must be a pianist from his writing. The guy who was the mysterious local legend who never left town was John Coates Jr., and it could have been him based on some later recordings I heard by him in the early-mid 70's. Not from his lone Savoy album, but that was from 1956 and he was only like 18 when he made it (btw one of the worst album covers imaginable, just for the suite alone). I hear a lot more of the mature Coates in Tyner than I do of John Dennis or Richie Powell.

So I have the 1956 and the 1959-1986 complete run of "Who's Who in Baseball". Would like to find a new home for them and get a little something in return in addition to covering postage costs. Not worried about getting full market value, and am willing to take CD's in trade as opposed to cash. PM if interested.

and who was already deceased by that point. I also think it's probably Hasaan he is referring to. And I've lived in the Philly area since '72.