The Magnificent Goldberg

So, no one 'cep me, is mentioning Bennie Green Don Drummond Rico Shame! Or Fred Wesley - the only trombonist to have a #1 R&B hit ever. MG

Ah yes! There are really only twenty trombonists that I really like - and Al Grey is four of them. Fred Wesley is four of them, too, and so are Bennie Green and Don Drummond. Also this guy Rico. MG

I've downloaded a few out of print items, mostly stuff I already had but a bit scuffed. OK, so I paid for a legit copy and it's legit (well, not in Britain, but pretty well everywhere else) to make a copy of an LP you own... So I'm not clear. You see, you can get a VG- copy of a record for half a quid and that gives you a legal right to listen to the music. The legal right is in respect of the copyright - ie the music itself as recorded. So if my VG- copy gives me the music accompanied by lots of hiss, crackles, skips etc, I'm not getting the music as recorded. So getting an improved version that's more like the music as recorded ought to be regarded by the law as a good thing. Because of the way the business was set up and the technology at the time, the legal right implies, but doesn't specify (except in Britain), that the thing you buy has to be the thing you listen to. But since it doesn't so specifiy, well, just do whatcha like, eh? MG

I prefer to think of myself as a pimp. I offended Jim Alfredson's promo guy by calling him one. Tough shit. That's what we do. Quite right too! Though I think I used the word parasite in the Jerry wexler thread MG

Noted, thanks. MG

Bob Marley's "Redemption song" sung by Robbie Jansen, from the album "Nomad jez" (Mountain). Robbie doesn't really sing very well, and doesn't play alto on this track at all, but the feeling behind it is soul-grabbing. He then goes on to play and sing "What's going on" with his son doing backup vocals. Again, the feeling behind the vocal is wrenching. Some great music is coming out of South Africa. MG

Lionel Hampton disc 5 for breakfast Then Roy Eldridge discs 1, 2 & 6 while at the shops. MG

It's an extraordinary bridge; but I've always thought it was something you might invent while out walking (and singing along with yourself). MG

Yessir, I believe you are. Collectibles has released some (all?) of her Atlantic recordings, none of the Cadets. I think I remember seeing one or two of them listed on obi strips on a few CDs I got from Japan a few years ago when they were doing a big Soul Jazz reissue splash (the series where they had dance steps on the pic behind the tray). "Superstition" might have been one and the other might have been the one where she does that dreary Elton John song; I used to have that one on LP but got rid of it on grounds of exceptional disappointment - given the personnel. It put me off exploring the other ones she made for Cadet. MG

Hey, they eventually found the Dean Benedetti tapes! OK, wake me when the entire output of the KSF (the sixth biggest company in my collection, more than Sony/BMG), Jololi, Touba K7, Pyramide Culturelle labels in Senegal; Super Selection, CDS, AMC, D D United labels in Guinea; and Oubien, Maikano and CK7 labels in Mali is available in this format. I'll subscribe!!!!! MG

Hampton Hawes - High in the sky - Vault promo stereo Hampton Hawes - The green leaves of summer - Contemporary (Vogue UK) mono Pharoah Sanders - Rejoice - Theresa MG

Ho, ho, fuckin' ho! Someone show this to Chuck. Then duck. MG

I'm not that familiar with either. FWIW, I just was looking at The Poll Winners Exploring the Scene (quite a nice record), which is supposed to be the trio exploring jazz "hits," and the first track is Bryant's "Little Susie." Little Susie pt 4 on Signature made #12 on the R&B chart, but didn't make the pop chart. Ray's big pop hit was "The Madison time" on Columbia, with Buddy Tate on tenor. But that has a vocal by someone calling out the steps, so probably wouldn't have been included for that reason. (Incidentally, the other version of the tune, by Al Brown's Tunetoppers on Amy, had Al Sears on sax.) Ray also had an R&B hit with "Sack of woe" on Columbia. Again, no pop chart entry. Ray's hit albums were Gotta travel on - Cadet 1966 (#5 R&B, 111 Pop) Slow freight - Cadet 1967 (#18 R&B, 193 Pop) MG

It says 1958-1966. Don't all your suggestions fall out of their time range? Ah, I didn't notice the time frame. A lot of my suggestions fell outside that period, but these ones didn't. Mongo Santamaria "Watermelon man" Bill Doggett - only "Hold it" and "You can't sit down" were pop hits as far as I know in this period. Ray Charles' "Rockhouse", "One mint julep" Harold Betters' "Do anything you wanna" Phil Upchurch's "You can't sit down" Kenny Ball's "Midnight in Moscow" and Chris Barber's "Petite fleur" MG

A serious and near-catastrophic issue ! :rsly: There have been a few times that these things have swung open, jettisoning out the disk and forcing me to perform Olympic-standard pseudo back-flip manouevers to catch said disk before it hit the woodwork ! hey, next time you perform such extraordinary deeds, please swith on your homecam and put the results up on youtube! MG

Yes, I agree. I don't have any of her Columbia material. Mosaic produced R&B sets by Amos Milburn (I should have got that one) & T-Bone Walker; perhaps others, I'm not sure. So Aretha's not a million miles from them. MG

Sonny Stitt, discs 4, 5 & 6. That should keep me quiet most of the morning MG

I have quite a lot of LPs that I've subsequently bought on CD. They're in a separate section from the other CDs. Sometimes I like to get the LP out, perhaps just to hear it without alternative takes so I mostly haven't flogged the LPs. I used to have a neighbour, to whom I introduced Grant Green and, as I bought GG stuff on CD, I'd give him the LPs (King GXFs no less). I think he moved to Australia to get away from the Soul Jazz What I don't like is involuntary duplicates. I don't have many of these - mostly it's Dinah Washington and a few artists whose Mosaic boxes I've bought. The Mosaic stuff is OK, because you know you're getting a complete whatever. With Dinah, I've got half or quarter albums that have material I haven't got elsewhere and that's a pain, because I have little incentive to play three or four tracks, spread over a couple of LP sides. So I don't get to hear that stuff at all. I ought to put that lot on my hard drive as a different compilation, I suppose... MG

I don't get it Dan - if you're adding albums to your list, how do I pick out the ones I haven't seen before? MG

After the excitement of Les Espoirs de Coronthie, I felt like something relaxing, so I played another of those Mosaic Selects that will never happen The complete Jazzland & Riverside recordings of Johnny Lytle Blue vibes - Jazzland stereo (Orpheum) Happy ground - Jazzland stereo (black label) Nice and easy - Jazzland (OJC CD - also a stylistic oddity, with Johnny Griffin) Moon child - Jazzland stereo (black label) Got that feeling! - Riverside stereo (Orpheum) The Village Caller - Riverside stereo (OJC LP) Now it's getting on for bedtime, I'm on Mongo Santamania - Hey! Let's party - Columbia (CBS UK) MG

Well, what a surprise! Two CDs arrived today by Les Espoirs de Coronthie, a Guinean band. I saw them in Paris in May 2007 and thought they were very good indeed. So I asked their tour manager if they had made any records. He said they had, but not released on CD; but that it was planned to release one soon. so I asked if I could pay for it then and get the CD by post. Well, I gave up and wrote off the 20 Euros to experience. And, out of the blue, two turn up!!!!!! "Dunuya iguiri" is the earliest. It was recorded in Conakry in May & June 2003 and, since it's 78 mins long, must have originally been issued as two cassettes. The latest, "Tinkhinyi" was recorded in Bamako & Paris in Sep & Dec 2007. More info on the "African music" thread. MG

Well, what a surprise! Two CDs arrived today by Les Espoirs de Coronthie, a Guinean band. I saw them in Paris in May 2007 and thought they were very good indeed. So I asked their tour manager if they had made any records. He said they had, but not released on CD; but that it was planned to release one soon. so I asked if I could pay for it then and get the CD by post. Well, I gave up and wrote off the 20 Euros to experience. And, out of the blue, two turn up!!!!!! "Dunuya iguiri" is the earliest. It was recorded in Conakry in May & June 2003 and, since it's 78 mins long, must have originally been issued as two cassettes. The latest, "Tinkhinyi" was recorded in Bamako & Paris in Sep & Dec 2007. The noteworthy thing about this band is that it is all accoustic. I don't remember the guitarist having an amp. They just PLAY LOUD!!!! And sing loud! Yes, they used mikes and the guitarist, as I recollect, had a mike close to his instrument. The first half of the earlier CD is different to the second. To me, it's most interesting because, although most of the musicians are Mandinke, in this first cassette, they get away from the normal djeli-controlled Mandinke style of music, well known from Syliphone Records and Bembeya Jazz National, to the style of the Mandinke hunting music, of which I've only heard a little. This is a strange thing for a band coming from the poorest quarter of Conakry to do, but it's damn good. The second half of that CD has melodies that flow much more in the traditional djeli manner, though the backing is still from the Mandinke hunting tradition. I find this music very, very exciting. You can buy downloads of this album here: http://www.virginmega.fr/musique/album/les...99395,page1.htm The recent album is more like the first half of the earlier album - much more related to hunting music, though the presence of Pierre Lebourgeois on cello on track one starts it off in a rather different manner. But it soon settles down into the normal Espoirs de Coronthie style. But there are a few djeliya styled numbers. I think you must be able to get downloads of this one, too. But a search at the Virgin France site only revealed the earlier one. The band's website is here http://www.lesespoirsdecoronthie.com/ I'm going to be playing these albums a LOT! MG

I found a mint one - when it first came out It's not mint now, though. I really like it. MG

I sold a lot of stuff in the sixties, when I was in and out of work like a yoyo, and early seventies, when, despite having a steady job, demands of new family outstripped my income (my wife hasn't worked since leaving to have our daughter). But I only had a small collection in those days anyway, and never sold everything. Since the mid-seventies, I haven't been pushed by finances to sell anything, though it was tough at times in those days. The few I have got rid of were because I really didn't want them. It's a depressing thing to do, because you know you don't get their true value (to you) when you sell them. But needs must. MG

Thanks Chas. Still seems a silly phrase to me to signify something that simply has less acid than Virgin Olive Oil or Ordinary Virgin Olive Oil. Why don't they call it all Virgin Olive Oil and specifiy the acid level - they do something similar with Manuka honey. MG