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The name I was thinking of suggesting was Charles Tolliver, though I'd understand if the volume of recorded evidence of his career (or if for other reasons), he might not warrant inclusion. Opinions of considering Tolliver, pro or otherwise, welcome.

I have a couple names I might also add to the list who ought to be considered -- but am wondering if there is a list of criteria that ought to be considered? Are there any particular metics that are (or ought to be) considered before someone is nominated?

Me too. I think I've claimed Oblique as my favorite Hutcherson date for almost 20 years. I have the US CD that predates the RVG, i.e. with the Japanese cover (which I like a lot more than the RVG cover). Certainly one of the very best pairings of Bobby and Herbie.

There's a cello concerto by turn of the century New England American composer Arthur Foote (1853-1937) -- his only concerto -- which I believe has only been recorded once, and issued on an obscure LP that I've never found (though admittedly I haven't searched the world over for it). That's the first one that comes to mind.

Any evidence (I know, none recorded that anyone knows of) that Tyrone Washington played in Silver's band on any "Jody Grind"-era live gigs? -- with (or even without) Woody Shaw? Have always hoped a recording would surface (or of Tyrone and Woody in the Jazz Messengers, shortly thereafter). One can always dream, right?

Two things I'd like to suggest we discuss here (in further honor of Mr. Silver, RIP) "Outside the norm" tracks from Horace Silver's entire catalog (and/or live recordings) -- where he delivered something a little different than maybe what (some of) his audience was used to expecting. Both good, or bad (or anything in-between) -- what are some of the more "interesting" examples of times Silver went a little outside his usual comfort zone(s).Sidemen that Horace worked with in his bands that either weren't as well known (generally speaking), or that most people never realized ever worked with Horace. For instance, are there any notable members of his LIVE bands that didn't get documented on record? - or maybe just barely documented? Or sidemen who only played on one or two albums of his, that are easy to overlook? (Or even easy to forget ever worked with Silver entirely.)EDIT: And here's a third idea we can also include: Were there any former sidemen he "reunited" with in later years, that he had played/recorded with earlier? I'm guessing probably live on stage, more likely than on record - but examples of either would be welcome. I think my first example (two versions of the same tune) from Youtube cover BOTH of the first two topics well.... I've always loved the title track from "In Pursuit of the 27th Man" -- with David Friedman on vibes(!), plus Bob Cranshaw on electric bass, and plus Mickey Roker. This track is notably less traditionally "funky" or "hard-bop"-oriented than Silver's output in general, and also the rest of the same album in particular. It features some killer "slightly-out"-leaning solos from Friedman, over mostly static harmonies, and an incessant electric bass-line from Cranshaw that (oddly enough) reminds me a whole lot of the sound of some tracks off Charlie Rouse's "Two Is One" (Strata East, 1973) - from almost the same year. Studio version: Rare live version with two-horn front-line:

Can a mod update the thread title? Will spin The Jody Grind this evening in Silver's honor. RIP.

How is the bonus material? -- especially the studio material with II and III? There are twelve threads about these reissues in the Hoffman forums, but I think/fear most of the talk there is about SQ issues and the 'sound' of the original material (and I haven't dared tried to sift through it to find the discussion about the bonus material). Casual Zep fan myself, but a sucker for interesting bonus material -- when it's interesting.

There's a recent RIP thread on the Steve Hoffman Board.

My wait until a sale (or something going OOP) method -- and then buy EVERYTHING currently in print that I think I could ever really want has served me pretty well in one other respect... I never missed out on many (any?) of the Selects I wanted when something like a dozen or more were suddenly unavailable forever, overnight, with practically no warning at all. I remember one of my biggest "binge" purchases ever included something like 6 or maybe even 8 Select sets (all in the same order!) -- when I finally had a good reason to buy (a sale, or just one thing I wanted going on the "Last Chance" list). Wasn't forward thinking on my part or anything, just dumb luck actually. Needless to say I was pretty relieved I had everything I really wanted when all those Selects disappeared overnight.

Just saw this on the Steve Hoffman boards... https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/join-miles-ahead-a-don-cheadle-film

Re: 10% discounts, it doesn't make a huge difference -- but I usually don't buy much from Mosaic except about once every 2 or 3 (or even 4) years. Either something I really want is about to go OOP, or there'll be a sale (or maybe both at the same time!!). And then I'll drop like $500 or even $600 for several sets (literally everything I want that they have in stock at that time - to also save on shipping). My purchase history with them is exactly like that -- nothing for years at a time, and then-- BAM -- I'll drop like $600 because of a sale (saving $60 plus maybe another $10 on shipping, as compared to if I'd bought the same total amount of stuff over several shipments). I know 10% isn't a lot, but I'm sure I've saved a couple hundred dollars over the years by waiting until a sale, and then going hog-wild.

Yes -- happy, happy birthday!!

Can't say definitavely, but anything is better than that aweful 32 Jazz packaging and proprietary jewel-box (if you can even call it that) design. Woody's one of my all-time top-5 favorite jazz artists, so given how crappy the 32 Jazz issues were, I "never didn't" consider upgrading to the Mosaic.

Love "Ballads for Bass Clarinet". A great disc!

Steve Hoffman Forum thread here... http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-last-five-unidentified-tracks-in-my-itunes.357432 Can't seem to post a neat and tidy link from my phone, so hopefully the long URL above is clickable. If anyone can figure this out, it's as likely someone here as anywhere. The Hoffman Forum thread had clickable links to all five tracks, playable (stream-able) as on-line MP3's, hopefully accessible whether one is logged in over there (or not). Thanks!!

Me too. I'd probably have bought one this go around if it were included. Eventually I'll take the plunge, sale or not, I'm sure - but it could be a year or more. BTW, I'm not complaining that it wasn't included. I readily bought the Woody Shaw Muse box, full price. Just a matter of priorities, and cash availability.

No regrets having pre-ordered mine, but if I hadn't - I'd sure be jumping on one now!!

I enjoy the later studio material a lot more now than when I first got the set. Essentially disks #5 & #6 (presuming the Lighthouse material is disks #7 & #8). I really need to spin this whole set more offen too, I'm realizing.

It's right up there for me too -- and I generally really love most of Miles' output post-Bitches (pre-semi-retirement). By which I mean nearly as anything I've ever heard from him in the 70's.

I almost pulled the trigger on this in a Dusty Order last week, but spinning all I could find on-line from it (several full-length Youtube clips), I couldn't help but think the "wheat-to-chaff" ratio on this just didn't seem enough for me. Maybe someday, or if I could ever spin the whole thing first. I'll bet there's a solid single-album's worth of stuff in there, but a lot that I probably would always want to skip too.

Top drawer Freddie, and I like it better than any studio date of his from that entire decade (at least those I've heard). Recommended!!

I put off getting the solo Hill for ages, but finally got one a couple years ago - and really love it. And it gets better with repeated spins, as I start to anticipate the shifting themes better. I'm hardly impartial, but I didn't think I would end up liking the solo Hill set as much as I have. Great listening while I'm at work, which is where I keep my copy. (Didn't spin it nearly as often at home.)

All my rant to the contrary, I to think the show is very well acted - and I have no complaints with it otherwise (I don't think it's "stupid" - quite to the contrary, it's arguably one of the better series on all of television). That said, I still avoid seeing too much of it, cuz it just pisses me off.

My wife is hooked on Mad Men, so it's on every week like clockwork -- and in our small, one-bedroom apartment, I've seen more than my fair share. I love the production values, and sets and such (and especially all the design-related eye-candy, i.e. furniture and clothes) -- but I mostly don't care for the show much at all. Half the characters are archetypes of people I've tried to avoid my entire life. And the old boys network of that workplace reminds me of aspects of the corporate world I was in for 10 years starting in the mid 90's (with tons of Type-A personalities, which I particularly dislike in men, though I don't mind them in women much at all). I don't mean to suggest things were anywhere near as bad in my work experience 15 and 20 years ago, but I worked in the fairly male-dominated world of a IT (Information Systems) team, within the fairly male-dominated world of a metal-buildings manufacturer -- so some of that bullshit was a little bit the norm. I see enough of Mad Men to enjoy some aspects of it, but I try NOT to see enough of it that it pisses me off (which seeing all of it would inevitably do). As a result, I probably see 20-30 minutes of every episode (and I try to avoid seeing entire episodes). What my wife sees in it, I'll never understand. The stuff that annoys me about it, pisses her off even more than it does me. And yet she watches week after week - and she can't stand to watch it on the DVR a day or two late (she has to see it on Sunday nights, in real-time). All that personal, back-stabbing work-related politics (especially testosterone driven as it is), just annoys me to no end.