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His approach doesn't mirror that of my favorite trumpeters (all of whom have a tone that comes more out of Clifford Brown, i.e. Morgan, Shaw, Tolliver, Hubbard (mostly), and others). So, I haven't been as drawn to Douglas' approach as some others -- but I still have 6-8 CD's of his (and probably another half-dozen I've owned, and since traded), and I've mostly like what I've heard. Have met and talked with him two or three times -- back in Lawrence KS some 16 years ago, and a lot more recently at the Blue Room in Kansas City (maybe twice). He was always very cordial, and seemed like a very easy-going cat.

Don't totally disagree, but he's played that character for nearly 10 years now -- and it has to take a hell of a lot of energy to do all the time. And with the new show (1 hour per night, 5 nights a week - not just 4), that means 2.5x as much time to be in that character. As it is now, probably 75% of his 2hrs/week is tightly scripted -- it would be hard to sustain that level of 'density' of tightly-scripted comedy for 75% of 5 hours (or close to 4hrs/week). And on top of that, Colbert's current shtick is almost "David Mamet"-esque in terms of the speed with which comedic bits are served up. HARD to do in an hour-long format show. I suspect this is Colbert's big chance to escape the amazing but (what must be) tiring character he's inhabited for practically an entire decade. How many comedians have found the one weird thing that connect them with the public -- think of Gilbert Gottfried's voice (which isn't his natural voice), or any of a dozen other examples -- and then just burned themselves out (and the public along with them) driving that one trick pony into the ground. This is Stephen's big chance to lean on more of his other talents -- and it would seem this guy has tons. Good for Stephen, good for CBS, and good for us.

Thanks!! I pretty much view the board exclusively on my iPhone these days (laptop died at home, and I shouldn't be on the board at work -- the internet connection here is pretty slow). My memory of the "big list" you'd linked to (buried deep in the thread) was that it was just a big list (didn't realize it had release dates). The mobile-version of the forum software doesn't have any way to jump to specific pages within a thread (or, as best as I can tell, a way to just to be very beginning of the thread without going back page, by page, by page). But thanks!

So, I have to confess to not having followed the rollout of the SHM Cd's (or this thread) in real-time as it happened. Didn't even buy any until I suddenly noticed the most recent Larry Young, Sam Rivers, and John Patton titles on The Bastards' website ("holy crap, Contrasts??!!!"). So, my question is -- were these new SHM titles coming out on any kind of perceivable schedule, like in batches in regular intervals? When was the last batch? Is there any reason to think there might be more coming? What's the lowdown on this series, as an active program?

Not yet, but I did check with a Russian born coworker of mine, to see if he could help me order one from some Polish online source (as yet to be determined -- appreciate your helping sleuth this!). Jim, maybe I could order two copies, and send one along to you from here in the states? I've been meaning to send you something else Too for What seems like forever. ;-) Let me know if you find any good options!

Can't wait to get this, and slip it on one Saturday morning - just to see how long before my wife notices the Rhodes. (I'm guessing a good 20-minutes into the disc before she does -- depending on how loud I have t turned up.)

if the list could be extended, my candidates would be Jelly Roll, Hawkins, Charlie Christian, Jimmy Blanton, Kenny Clarke, Rollins and Ornette. Can't be extended. You gotta take names off, before you add any more back in. Top-10, that's the limit. But you bring up a good point by including Charlie Christian (who I'd overlooked). Time to rethink my list.

Didn't say he did (even I know that'd be crazy). Just said "much as I might like it".

11 Minutes of audio from the CD to enjoy!! https://soundcloud.com/capella-cracoviensis/sets/bach-rewrite

Ignoring vocalists, here my stab at this (in order of greatest influence -- though I totally get the argument that Duke should be lower on this list, but I'm really torn). I also feel Ornette should be on here, but I'm not sure if he should be (or not) -- much as I want him to be. Pops Duke Bird Miles (more as a jazz auteur, and for his sense of space/timing, than his influence on trumpet(ers) per se) Trane I want to say Monk, but it's probably really Bud Bill Evans Brownie Max Roach (if not, then Blakey, but I'd give it to Max - not that I really know in terms of "influence") maybe Jimmy Smith? (in a nod to our good caretaker) Who am I forgetting, and who would you kick off my list to make space to include them?? Interestingly, the only people I've listed that I personally have a "way bigger than average" appreciation/obsession for/with are Miles, and maybe Max Roach (though to a lot lesser extent than Miles). And lterally NONE of the others (above) are ones who I'd rank as being among my all-time top-tier favorites on their respective instruments. For instance, if I were to not take any of this "greatest influence stuff" too seriously (and I "over-elevated" some people as a result) -- my list might include more people like Herbie Hanckock, Joe Henderson, and Woody Shaw -- all of whom were very influential (I might even argue Joe as being THE most influential tenor player, in terms of CURRENT influence, over the last 20 years say). But what about Wayne? Where does he go in all this? Top 20, sure. Top 10? - probably not. And I'd LOVE to include Larry Young, but realistically - he's not been that influential (to say nothing of Andrew Hill, also a "not so much"). Now Lee Morgan is huge influence (I think), but realistically you can't have any more than Pops, Brownie, and Miles on the same list (if it's limited to top-10) -- and Lee comes out of Browie (as does Freddie Hubbard, Charles Tolliver, and even Woody Shaw). And if any bass player would deserve to be on the list, I guess it probably would be Mingus (much as I'd rather include Dave Holland, for instance). And I'd love to include Gil Evans, but really, is he even top-20? Again, look at my original list -- who's missing, and who would you take off my list to make room for them?

For those wanting to skip the video, it says... Pops Mingus Trane Miles Wynton Bird Chick Benny Duke Herbie

I have GOT to get this. But where's the best/easiest way to get it here in the US? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6rRCu00jNc http://jazzsoul.pl/2013/10/04/nowa-plyta-bach-rewrite-czyli-bach-na-fortepianie-elektrycznym/ Crazy busy day at work today (hell, this week and next), I'll have to look into it later (but had to share now!!). Just saw this via Reddit this morning on the Metro.

Thing is, most folks (including - I would venture - most folks here) *don't* have those bonus tracks elsewhere. And even if I did, I appreciate the editorial decision to 'highlight' them by their inclusion here, essentially elevating them above the rest of the material from whence they came (which I'm sure was a good call). But I understand, different strokes for different folks. As far as the SQ of the main material, I am beyond thrilled with the clarity of mix/remix. One of THE most stunning recordings of any live Miles I've yet heard (from any decade).

Always liked Sun Ra's upbeat (almost double-time), almost march-like version(s?) of "Round Midnight". Whether they qualify as "over the top", or not - they're certainly not the norm.

Funny, the SQ of the bonus tracks doesn't bother me a whole lot, and I'm still glad they're there (the interest factor definitely trumps the SQ issues for me). I mean, "Footprints" in 1970, are you kidding me??!!! Never in a billion years did I expect to hear one of Miles' 70's bands playing "Footprints".

The Miles Davis stamp (w/ the Jack Johnson pose!!) was 100x better!!

Is it just me, or does all this material from Vol 3 seem less "out there" now that we have the actual tunes and themes as they were presented live in their full context? Meaning as opposed to the cutdown/edited versions that Teo assembled? That isn't meant as a dis to Teo, or anyone for that matter. I'm just saying that these particular dates from June '70 almost seem more "approachable" than the "Black Beauty" edited proceedings from April '70 -- or even the dates with Wayne from March 1970 (which may be partially the result of being recorded so 'hot', or whatever the SQ challenges were with that show). In any case, I have to say I'm becoming more and more impressed with Vol 3, with every additional spin. Frankly, I was thinking I might hold off on buying Vol 3 (at least for a while), and it was only the UK deal that really pushed me over the edge. But I am really glad I jumped on this when I did!!

I'd be curious to hear your reactions to this set, Chuck, when you have the chance to give it a spin and offer your thoughts.

Finally did some in-depth listening to discs 3-4 today, and I'm even more impressed than before. Some more thoughts... 1) The interplay between Miles and Jack D. On the Disc3 version of "It's About That Time" is crazy good. 2) Agree the vamp from the last half of "Miles Runs The Voodoo Down" sounds like some other Chick tune I know. 3) "Willie Nelson" was so clear and focused, I almost wondered if I wasn't listening to a studio version (I say that, in part, because 70's live Miles so often gets to be kinda meandering at times - not always in a bad way -- these were definitely tight and focused nights, maybe because they had an hour to get in and get out). I'm damn impressed with this set (am still glad they included the bonus tracks, SQ issues and all), and I can't wait for Vol 4!

Nailed it.

His book on Miles is probably my favorite Miles bio. Partially for the material covered, but as much for how beautifully well-written it is. I haven't read it in years, but I'm tempted to dig it out again soon.

FWIW, I've always pronounced it "zved" -- going back to my first contacts with him back around 1990 and in the early 90's when he was researching Sun Ra (and to my shock, I was even mentioned by name in the list of "thankyou's" in the preface of his Ra biography -- along with several other people I crossed paths with later, for unrelated reasons). Now, whether that pronounciation is accurate (or not) -- or whether he and I only exchanged emails (pre-internet, at least for me (anyone remember Bitnet?)), or whether we spoke on the phone (which I kind of vaguely remember, but couldn't swear in a court of law) -- I really can't say. (My god, that was going on 25 years ago!) My 2 cents, which I'm sure someone mayl suggest is barely worth even that, I'm sure. <smile>

So true, so true!

Bump!

Didn't realize until recently that "Heaven on Earth" had ever been on CD before (outside of the LY Mosaic) -- but it does appear to have come out in Japan at some point in the last few years (to my shock). I'm seeing copies on eBay and Amazon for upwards or $40 or even $50. Anyone have one to spare? - or have a line or a more reasonably priced copy? Many thanks in advance!!