Rooster_Ties

Let's just say this -- early, middle or late -- I've never heard a Don Cherry release where he plays trumpet pretty much exclusively, that wasn't well worth hearing. At least to my ears.

Heard all of Pink Floyd's "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" in a used bookstore here in DC a few months ago. Not jazz, but it was the highlight of my day!

Nearly all the Old & New Dreams dates (there's four, right? - but only four, I think) are all worth having. Some of the best 'post-Ornette' Cherry I know. Also really liked his (few) collaborations with Sun Ra -- also a great context for him to appear in.

I seem to remember a piano concerto of Davis' (with the Kansas City Symphony, probably initially why I first picked it up), which I remember having enjoyed. Not sure if I kept it when I trimmed 2,000 discs before moving to DC -- I should look this week. (I was ruthless in what I cut from my classical CD's -- over half my classical got the axe.)

Looking up to confirm that the original Star Trek theme was a m7 (and not M7), I stumbled on the following - which may be helpful... http://www.people.vcu.edu/~bhammel/theory/resources/macgamut_theory/songs_interval_recognize.html http://music.tutsplus.com/articles/boot-camp-for-your-ear-detecting-intervals-with-song-associations--audio-4118 http://www.earmaster.com/products/free-tool/interval-song-chart-generator.html The last one has Youtube links to all the examples, and appears to even let you build a custom page with just the specific examples you select.

Ditto, and (iirc) all piano-less too! -- a very 'open' sounding group, really top drawer.

LOVE that Johnny Dyani leader-date, which I rank among Cherry's finest. Remind me what he did with Dollar Brand? (Thanks in advance!). And, was it all/mostly trumpet? - or another Cherry as multi-instrumentalist sort of date (which I don't mean to seem derisive about, even if that isn't my preferred Cherry incarnation).

Agree, "Complete Communion" is in my all time top 10 Blue Note list too! Similar feelings about the later material too. Love his very last studio date, though, on ECM. "Dona Nostra" iirc.

Me too!

Does Cherry play lots of trumpet on either or both dates? Or (judging from the line-up listing), is he all over the map with a little of everything. FWIW, Caprice is definitely a legit lable -- I have/have had a number of classical, jazz, and even Swedish folk CD's on Caprice over the years. Do they have any other documents of "live" jazz recordings from the 60's or 70's (I'm naturally wondering).

It's not really a major "Joe Show" per se -- his soloing is never really way out front, in a "jazz" sort of way. But he plays on nearly the whole damn thing, and he's always there in the mix -- with that classic Joe tone.

I do really miss getting new Osby/Moran albums, FWIW. Not really "torn" about not getting Osby's more recent output. More disappointed about not getting new material that would be more to my liking.

'nother bump...

Found this on vinyl here in DC maybe 18 months ago, pretty clean copy for $8 at a local shop. STILL a really fun date, and I never tire of when I put it on -- which isn't often enough.

I'll also offer a BIG second the Turrentine Mosaic, which is very jazz-oriented (and not really soul-jazz). Also, the two very first real "jazz" dates that I heard with Stanley that just BLEW me away completely -- were both from 1960... Dizzy Reece - Comin' On! Duke Jordan - Flight to Jordan Prior to these two (first heard about 10-12 years ago), I'd only ever heard soul-jazz dates by and with Stanley -- which were certainly good for what they were -- but didn't show off his real jazz chops.

Doesn't eveyone have a cut-off date for Horace Silver's recordings? Not the same date for everone, mind you -- but I think his output is a little like Jimmy Smith's -- after some point, it's all been said.

Fell in love with Greg Osby's contemporaneous output around the time he first teamed with Jason Moran. But after Moran left, I've yet to hear an Obsy leader date that floated my boat nearly as well. And it *wasn't* just the presence of Moran and his playing specifically -- rather I think Moran (or the context of his playing) that really brought out the best in Osby. Still waiting/hoping for a reunion at some point, hopefully. (And, come to think of it, personally I think all of Moran's best leader-dates were during the time he was in Osby's band (some with Osby, some not)-- so maybe it went both ways -- the sum of the parts was greater than the whole.)

I had the exact same impression the one time I met Andrew as well, and also in my conversations with at least 3 musicians who played with him extensively (in his later years), i.e. nothing they said gave any impression otherwise. Everything about the man was nebulous -- his music, his direction to the musicians performing it, practically everything. I don't mean that to sound disparaging -- as I rank Hill VERY high on my all-time top-10 list (usually top-5).

Hey Rooster. I am going to be in DC on Jan. 9 - 12. I had a conversation with Ralph Peterson last week and he told me about the gig at Bohemian Caverns. Going to make the effort to get there Friday the 10th. I'm more likely for Friday than Saturday at this point, but if Gary's on the gig -- I may even try to go to both. Yes, we should look for each other!

FWIW, I think Woody would clearly be 10x easier to do justice on a video documentary, than Andrew Hill. Not so much because of the lack of performance footage of Andrew, but because I think what makes Woody special is a lot easier to explain and get one's ears around than Andrew. Also, that there is interview footage of Woody is probably a huge help as well (and I doubt there's any of Andrew, and even if there were, I'm sure it would be just as nebulous as Andrew's music). That Woody was so underappreciated in his day astounds me. Unlike Andrew, where I totally get it.

Never a fan of the 32 Jazz reissues, other than I was super glad to have them on CD. The covers were ugly, and it was impossible to file everything chronologically. I didn't really "need" the Mosaic MUSE set, but -- damn it -- I'll buy almost anything with Woody, and so I did. No disappointment. Don't know if the sound is especially better (I don't have top drawer equipment, and my ears on are backwards in any case), but I've got no complaints. Nice to have the three 80's dates spread across two discs (which makes sense), and all in all, a great release.

FWIW, the Frank Morgan includes Joe Henderson, and a knock-out version of "Black Narcissus". And the Greg Osby includes both Andrew Hill and Jim Hall. Both great discs!

Gary Thomas - "Found on Sordid Streets" (Winter & Winter, 1997) Because I may have the chance to hear Gary with Ralph Peterson here in DC in about 9 or 10 days.

Overall, the broadcast was more enjoyable that I'd expected (maybe I just have low expectations of such things). And given the songs that I'd heard reports of having been performed as part of Herbie's tribute -- I like what I heard a whole lot better than I'd expected (I was more than half expecting just Chick and Wayne to play Walkin' and Watermelon Man as just a duo -- which didn't sound like such a great idea). Walkin' was better than I'd expected, but still seemed like a weird choice. I guess Watermelon Man is his biggest early hit, but I've never liked to the tune that much (but the performance was a lot more interesting than it could have been. Anyone know who was the overall Music Director of the night's proceedings? -- the leader of the "house band" that night, so to speak.

One of the things that I liked was the choice to pan still-photos of Woody (in concert) [Ken Burns style], with superior examples of Woody's soloing. If they limited themselves to the actual audio-track of all the performance footage of Woody that was available (to say nothing of the audio-quality from the video), I'm sure it would have been a lot harder to sell the points they're trying to hit home about Woody's unique style and (often) superior chops and technique. Maybe getting clearances on the video was a factor too (who knows), but to really tell the story right -- I sure wouldn't want to be limited to the audio from what surely must be barely a dozen hours (if even that much exists) of Woody on video. Also, who knows, though, might some footage with Horace Silver turn up from '66 or so?? (And you-know-who else was on that front line!!) Or, at least maybe some new still-images of Woody live with Horace, which might lead to a couple new (good) photos of Tyrone (are there even any photos of him performing live?). Now, if I could only get a similar documentary made about Andrew Hill -- I'd be in heaven (Hill and Shaw being probably my two all-time favorites for going on a decade now). Never gonna happen, I know, but at least there'll be one about Woody now.