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Still hard to believe this tune -- the original, that is -- never appeared on any of the COUNTLESS Blue Note compilation CD's that we're coming out all the time in the 90's and early 2000's.

Just wanted my intentions on the record!

So, who were among the first to ditch the suit and/or tie in the early to mid 60's (having previously been more conservatively dressed, like everyone else). NOT who never wore a suit and/or tie in the first place -- but were there any notable early-adopters of the trend that became pervasive by '68?

Happily married going on 20 years.

I saw that late last night (hadn't had the chance to post about it), but wasn't able to tell if it was some sort of remix, or the original. Full-length track seemed to be available on Grooveshark, but I couldn't seem to get it to play. Anyone know?

And ironically, the Joe Henderson version is on several comps. Ideally I'm looking for Sam's original though.

I met an actual "Beatrice" the other day (African-American, probably in her late 20's, I'm guessing -- a 'pharmacist-tech' at the CVS near where I live) -- and I wanted to pass along a recording of Sam's original version for Blue Note (and a real CD would be preferable, rather than a burn). Short of the "Fuchia Swing Song" CD itself, and the Mosaic "Complete BN Recordings" set -- has Sam's original version for Blue Note ever found its way on any CD compilations? I'm seeing that used copies of various CD reissues (the Conn, and Japanese reissues) are going for kinda stupid money these days online -- but FSS appears to have been one of those "blue and orange covers" Spanish CD issues back in the late 90's (weren't they around that time?). Is that the only way to go to find something more affordable? Hard to believe, with ALL the Blue Note compilations over the years, that the original "Beatrice" never made it on any. The AMG doesn't seem to think there are any comps with it, or am I overlooking some European BN comps?

There are TWO different Sun Ra Quartet double-albums on Horo. "Other Voices, Other Blues" (which I have on original vinyl)... ...but there's also "New Steps" - which I have on recent a high-quality CD bootleg (with superb packaging, including both a new 2009 essay, and also the original liner-notes). If fact, it was only around here somewhere that I read that the "New Steps" CD wasn't legit - though it's far better in almost every way than many legit reissues I have.

The two Horos I most want on CD were/are the two Sun Ra quartet albums -- one of which did come out as a very nice quality CD boot (with really decent liner-notes, and high quality packaging), and the other of which I have on original vinyl (but which I'd love to have on CD). The vinyl I have is "Other Voices, Other Blues" -- and forgetting the other.

I kinda like those Turrentines too. Nothing earth-shattering, but the larger-group context is kinda fun, and the arrangements usually elevate the material.

What would the Plaster-Casters say?

My top five... 1) Animals 2) Wish You Were Here 3) Dark Side (reluctantly, it's overplayed) 4) Obscured By Clouds (most underrated PF) 5) The Early Singles (CD from Shine On box)

Tom Lord's Online Disco has this as: 12 Compositions, Live at Yoshi's Oakland (July 1993). Amazingly, what Lord gives does not correspond to any of the four titles on the product. Is it possible that discographies are not constructed rigorously as are bibliographies? If the release itself has four different titles (on the packaging itself), then why should we expect the actual title to be any of those four titles? Full conceptual continuity would demand another further different title be the "real" one, no?

I've always enjoyed my copy, and probably more than I originally expected (I'm sure I thought it was a little conservative for my tastes at the time).

Is this the "the titles of Peter Gabriel's first four solo albums" problem -- only in reverse, and folded in on itself in terms of both space and time?

I used to like The Wall, The Final Cut, and some of Roger's solo output better (20 years ago), but personally have little use for any of it any more. I know plenty of others see value in it (and I respect that), but I can't abide all the speak-singing, and the musical content (i.e. musicality) just isn't there for me either -- like it is with most of what Dave's been involved with since the mid-80's. That isn't to say everything Floyd 2.0 did is equally fulfilling for me (and some of it is a mixed bag), but almost nothing Roger's been involved with since 1979(!) connects with me any more (not even in the slightest). Nothing he (Waters) does sounds even remotely like the Pink Floyd (and Floyd-related) projects before or since.

Amen. I would file both The Wall and The Final Cut with Roger Waters' solo work, far as I'm concerned -- and Roger got exclusive rights to both under the terms of the lawsuit(s) back in 1987, which only makes perfect sense. Just listened to both AMLOR and The Division Bell in the last 24 hours (for the first time in well over a year), and both of the Floyd 2.0 studio albums aren't quite Pink Floyd either, but they are more so than either The Wall or The Final Cut. I don't care what anyone calls any of it, that's just how I see it personally. The "real Pink Floyd" debates are torturous, to put it mildly.

My 87 year old father is a life-long Mason, and I'm not sure I can really explain much of it myself, except a tiny bit and only in the most superficial way.

I file both of the Floyd 2.0 studio albums with Gilmore's solo albums... ...but then I would also file The Final Cut and even The Wall with Water's solo work. (So Animals is the last truly Floyd album to be.) But I enjoyed The Division Bell more than AMLOR, though I didn't even hear The Division Bell until 2004 (practically 10 years after it's release). Rick Wright's last solo album, Broken China (1996) is quite lovely too.

Count me curious enough to check this out. IMHO, Rick Wright is a favorite and underrated Floyd contributor, and anything with Gilmore and Wright together is worth giving the benefit of the doubt is my book.

The previously unissued bonus material and improved sound of "Out to Lunch" make it tops on my list.

Happy Birthday!!! -- from Rhode Island (at the moment). Looking forward to catching up over lunch when I'm back in DC. Have a great day! -- Cheers!!! :-)

Gerald Wilson, amen!!

I remember someone once referring to Tolliver's "nanny goat" tone.Yeah, I've heard a variety of opinions about Tolliver too (non-musically related), thus the way I introduced the notion of considering him. Whatever I heard (years ago, all on-line here, all third hand, and I don't really even remember any details), was a bit of a mixed bag. But I love nearly everything he's done on his own leader-dates, and most of his sideman work. FWIW.