Rooster_Ties

Can Johnny sign up as a "politics-only" member??

Post starting another thread just now. Reposting it here, to combine the threads into this one.

FYI, there is another thread discussing this topic, already started. Suggest we add to that thread, rather than having two separate threads. The other thread can be found: CLICK HERE. Cheers!!! PS: I bumped the other thread up just now, and reposted the original post from this thread, into that one.

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Just go take a fucking walk, why doncha!!!

You know, the Moose has a point. And there's probably nothing quite as dangerous as a pointy moose.

OMIGOD !! Up until now I've been cooling and tempering my VERBIAGE. After reading this thread I realize this really IS a Jazz BBS. I'M HOME !! WINGY oh FUCK! Yup, that's right. We're FUCKED!!!!

Thank you for checking Jim. If it's available, I think there may be some need for it.

That's probably the roadblock right there -- intelligence.

Thanks bertrand!!! Listening to "The Chief" now, and it's a cool tune. Shame the studio version didn't cut it. Thanks for checking on this for me. I knew somebody around here knew the details -- just couldn't remember who. Thanks again!!! -- Rooster T.

I normally bond with animals fairly easily, and I can easily see why you’d be pissed about this, Joe. But what would piss me off the most about this was the unnecessaryness (unnecessity?) of it. Yeah, I may bond with animals pretty easily, but I “let go” pretty easily too. They are, in fact, just animals. (I love my two cats dearly, but they’re just animals too.) Our next-door neighbor has had three inside-outside cats over the 18 months we’ve lived next to her. And two of those three cats have been bit by cars, and both died as a result. I really liked both of those cats (and I’m definitely a “cat” person), but I also realized that we live on a street with some degree of traffic, and shit like that happens. (That’s why both of our cats are inside-only kitties. And our neighbor shouldn’t be too surprised when something like this happens. Get a clue!!) I frequently used to pick up and/or pet both of those cats (that are no longer with us), and would call to them whenever I saw them in the yard. But that’s the way it goes, unfortunately. Anyway, my point is that I’d be mad too, just like you Joe – NOT because I’d be so deeply upset at the loss of an animal that I had bonded with a bit (and probably felt some ownership of, to some extent), but rather I’d be upset because the killing wasn’t at all appropriate in your area, or sanctioned by the laws of your community. I’m not wildly against hunting (though I would NEVER do it myself), but what would really get me about your situation, Joe, is that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. That buck should be alive and enjoying life today. He was in an area that should have given him some greater chance of survival (at least against hunters), and yet some hunter decided that those laws didn’t apply to him. Yeah, I’d be pissed too.

I'm certainly nonplussed, but to say anything more would just fan the flames. Or in other words...

Amen to that!!!

Me too, too. But I sure wish he hadn't... Let it go. What's done is done. Yeah, you're probably right. His deleting all his threads here really soured me on the guy, even though I miss his contributions. I don't feel like we 'deserve' an appology from him, but if he offered one (with sincerity) - I would appreciate it. Not gonna happen, I realize (and it's not like I've lost any sleep over it either). What's done is done.

On the one hand, Hardbop can be an interesting guy, narrowminded as he is. I've had it out with him a number of times, and I finally got on his shit-list when I started a thread on AAJ specifically to ask if his tastes in Classical music were in any way similar to his tastes in jazz. We all know that jazz that Hardbop likes is (definitionally speaking) music that can be considered "jazz". And jazz that he doesn't like, isn't "jazz" at all, but rather is crap, or worse. I wanted to see if he thought 12-tone serial music was as evil as organ trios, and Miles in 1973, or even 1969. I even tried to pick this 'fight' with him in a nice, joking, totally "kidding around" kind of way - so as not to be too hard on the guy. He wasn't having any of it (lord, it's not like the guy can laugh at himself - sheesh!!), and he sent me a PM saying I needed to get a fucking life. Whatver. I deleted the thread, and haven't responded to any posts of his ever since. I once got him to try to define where the line was that he drew with Miles, and Ornette. He said he could sorta slightly get into Ornette's first OJC (Contemporary?) album (the one with piano), and everything by Miles up through late 1967 was OK -- but from 1968 on, it was all varying degrees of 'crap' to him. He never seemed to exactly think Andrew Hill was crap (rarely did he plug anything in, or play with anything plugged in), and Hill wasn't nearly as evil as Cecil Taylor, or most Sun Ra. Still, you could tell that he thought Hill was pretty substandard, since (of course), he doesn't really know how to swing. But then didn't Hardbop appear to actually kinda like Wayne Shorter's recent live disc, "Footprints Live"???? What's up with that???? Or am I remembering that wrong. 99% of the time, Hardbop conformed to exactly what my expectations were of him. But every once in a blue moon, he's surprise me a little bit. And that was the ONLY reason I ever gave him the time of day. Well, that - and the fact that he liked Charles Tolliver quite a bit. PS: On further thought, it was Hardbop's inability to look introspectively at his own tastes in music that really limits my interest in having much of a discussion with him. Like Wynton, Hardbop confuses his own opinions with "truth", and his own tastes with some universally objective definition of "quality". Ultimately I have little patience for those sorts of people.

Me too, too. But I sure wish he hadn't deleted all his threads here on this board, especially the really long one where we were discussing the new Cons (long before they actually came out). But people do stupid shit sometimes, even people who are normally otherwise good to have around. (I don't mean to dredge up the past -- and for the record, I'd generally be glad if Kevin did came back. I lobbied for him not to leave in the first place, but whatever. -_- )

I've never heard an Ives symphony performed here in the U.S. either (at least not anytime in the last 10 years, in either Kansas City or St. Louis.) A couple times, however, I have heard Ives' first orchestral set (as he liked to call them), better known as "Three Places in New England". The second movement of "Three Places..." is perhaps one of the best known 'tunes' of Ives - also known as "Country Band March". (It's the one with two marching-band tunes 'on top' of each other.) NAXOS has recently released new recordings of Ives #1, #2, and #3 (with a #4 likely on the way). I think all are from new 'critical editions' of the scores, with a number of errors corrected for the first time (supposedly). I have #1 and #2, and like them as much as any recording I've heard of them. (And the Naxos recording of #1 has the added bonus of being paired with the world-premier recording of a long-lost Ives piano concerto!!! Get it!! )