Rooster_Ties

Meese (or is it Moosi?) must age slower than the rest of us people. (Though sometimes I feel like Roosters age more quickly.)

No shit!!

Here she was in high-school...

Another vote for "In All Languages". If you're based in the U.S. or Canada, be sure to check out half.com for some great deals on Ornette, especially his post-1975 CD's. Tone Dialing for only $6 (several copies) This is a very interesting disc, and well worth getting (I think). Virgin Beauty for about $7. Not my very favorite Ornette, but still a pretty solid disc, with Jerry Gracia on three tracks. In All Languages for $8.50 (and ignore that they display the wrong cover of this CD on half.com) Colors for $10 -- is just a duo disc with Ornette and Joachim Kuhn on piano, and is very good (recorded live, but the sound quality is perfect). Also, I want to give a BIG shout-out for James Blood Ulmer's "Tales Of Captain Black" from 1978, with Ornette. Only available as an import from Japan, $18 is a decent price for a brand-new copy, and this album is not to be missed. Frankly, I like this disc as much as any Ornette in an electric context. (And I say that not as a huge Ulmer nut, as this is my only disc with Ulmer as the leader. Ornette came to play on this date, and REALLY delivered the goods.)

Have you ever tried one??

Here's the main site for André Condouant, where all three of these come from... http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/

Wow, some excellent stuff to read, album covers (including repros of the back-covers in some cases), and some great pictures to see (especially in the case of Carmell). I'm afraid I'm a dumb-ass, cuz I've never heard of "Lou Bennett" before, should I have??? In any case, check 'em out!!! http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/CARMELL.html http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/LEO.html http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/LOU.html

This one is surely a bootleg recording, but it does date back to the LP era, and was 'released' on LP in the 70's (I think). I actually own one of these, oddly enough. The sound quality is quite good, but not quite 'great'. Quite a good performance of "Power To The People", which takes up an entire side (about 20 minutes long too). Don't pay a mint for it, but if you ever see it cheap - get it!!

Thanks b3!!! Come to think of it, I did notice that the error messages suddenly stopped (as I was exchanging several PM's with Connie500 a couple hours ago). Great news!!!!

The only "not on CD yet" recording with Joe that I can think of (off the top of my head anyway) is a Blue Mitchell album on the 'Mainstream' label, from the early 70's - that had Joe on it. I don't know the exact title (and not all of Blue's 'Mainstream' records have personnel listed in the AMG), but I'm guessing it's Vital Blue from 1971. (Somebody correct me if I've got the wrong one - which is quite likely.)

What recordings with Joe Henderson (either as leader, or (more likely) as a sideman), have NOT been released on CD yet??? (Or at least not on CD in the U.S.) Please list any and all that you can think of. And which ones are the best, most important, or most interesting and/or unique??? Thanks!!! -- Rooster T. PS: I realize that much of Joe's "The Milestone Years" box-set hasn't been released on CD as individual releases. I'm not really talking about that (in terms of 'not on CD' yet). I'm talking about LP's that have never been issued on CD in any form (and can only be heard from an LP, or a tape/CDR of an LP). Thanks!!!

This "from Joel and the Cats" joke is getting old I fear... …but the birthday wishes (I assure you) are quite sincere.

I liked the 2nd (bonus) disc better than the first disc. I don't think The Three Sounds are particularly bad (and they're probably quite good for what they are), but they don't really excite me very much either. That said, I traded off my Conn of this to Connie500, and haven't missed it. Some people here probably love it, but it didn't really do all that much for me. The playing was certainly not substandard, but I did find it (especially the first disc, but at least half of the 2nd disc too) kinda 'snoozy' - as someone else here already said.

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Never heard of it, but I haven't really looked all that hard for other brands either. I can tell I probably need to check out a good liquour store sometime, and see what else is out there, in the way of other brands of hard cider.

Woodchuck Draft Ciders

OK, there are several serious beer connoisseurs here. What do they think, and everybody else too, about fermented cider?? Of and on for the last year or so, my wife and I have both really been enjoying a few different brands of hard apple cider. We had some on our honeymoon a couple years ago (we went to London and Glasgow), and had hard ciders of both the 'draft' variety (in a pub in London), and also in bottles (at Indian restaurants in both London and Glasgow). We've also tried fermented pear cider on a few occasions, and have sometimes like it as well (though it gets a bit too 'sweet' for my taste buds sometimes). The brand we've been drinking most lately (simply because it's the brand most consistently available at the grocery store we frequent) is "Woodchuck Draft Cider" (in bottles), produced by Green Mountain Cidery in Springfield, Vermont. I think the brand we had in London and Glasgow (both on tap, and in bottles) was a brand called "Strongbow". If you like fermented ciders, what brands do you like best??? I'm not much of a beer drinker (what can I say - I just never got the 'beer' gene), but I have enjoyed other kinds of alcohol over the years. Of the beers at the bar I worked at 10 years ago (as a bartender!!), I probably like "Killians Red" the best, but even then - I wouldn't ever drink it unless I was getting one for free. Any other drinkers here, who aren't very interested in beer??? I'm probably the only one, I'm guessing --- and the only bartender ever who really doesn't like beer. (Not even with food.)

All quotes from the other thread I started on this (which also included the article). But this one is just as good, so I'm hereby transfering the quotes here to this thread, and I'm about to nuke the other thread. No harm, no foul.

From Dmitry and I --- we bid you a very fond:

A few quick positive words about AAJ. I think Bev's right (as he(?) said in another post sometime before) that there is a better representation of European posters (and topics) on AAJ. (Like if I had a question about the UMO Jazz Orchestra, or a bunch of ECM titles -- I'm be more likely to post it on AAJ.) And, if I were into pre-1950 jazz more (or had a specific question about that era), I'd be more likely to post on AAJ more frequently. ( Also, I get the 'inside jokes' better here too!!! )

The new title came at 3,000 - and from what I'm told, there's more with each 1,000 yet to come ( B) ), at least up to some point (probably 10,000). Jim and I ought to be there by Valentines Day (2004), would be my guess.

I don't want this thread to turn into an AAJ bash-fest (and it shouldn't), but I'll take a stab at this one... To start with, where are frequently more jazz-related topics here that play into my favorite jazz interests – be that Blue Note (especially the recent round of Conns, and RVG's), or similar labels, or jazz of the 60's in general (which this board has a greater frequency of discussion about, than AAJ). And in terms of the 60's (and beyond), on this board there is a greater amount of participation in discussions about the musicians that had one foot in the 'hardbop' camp, and one foot in the 'avant-garde' camp -- which I tend to call the 'progressive' camp (for lack of a better term). We can all disagree on the terminology, but regardless - there's way more talk HERE about Miles after 1965, and Larry Young, and John Patton, and (my latest big kick) Andrew Hill!! -- and 70's jazz like Billy Harper, and Woody Shaw -- than I've ever seen on AAJ. Also, most people here know who Jimmy Woods was, or Tyrone Washington, or Grachan Moncur – or any of dozens of other more obscure musicians from the 60's. And (perhaps more importantly), the discussion on these topics is much more spirited here -- more 'debate'-like, weighing the pros and cons of the importance of player 'XYZ' within an overall movement, or their influence on future generations, etc... And frankly, the people here are just more spirited in their discussions in general (jazz or otherwise), than most people are on AAJ. (Even sometimes those same people, on both boards, are more 'spirited' in their posting here, than they are there). And, I should also point out, that the spirited discussions here about music rarely get into the kind of "I'm right, and your wrong" banter than we find much more frequently on AAJ. Typically there are more people on AAJ that have an axe to grind about certain jazz styles ('hardbop' and others), who are quick to chime in with their opinions about why much of the music we hold so dear on this board, is complete and utter crap in his and their minds. There aren't lots of people like that on AAJ, but just enough that they can quickly sour many a thread about the kinds of topics I'm most interested in. So, in short, there's much less bickering about 'music' here on this board. (We save all our bickering for the Politics forum!! ) I've gotta run, but I'm sure there are other reasons that will occur to me too. One more. The discussion on AAJ sometimes seems more sophomoric, with more jazz 'newbies'. This isn't a criticism of their board, but it is (I think) an accurate observation. Now I really do have to run...

Now (today) I'm getting the "mail error" messages nearly every time I post to the board, and every time I try to send a PM. Also, the PM doesn't appear in my "sent items" folder. Not bitchin' - just providing some more feedback, to hopefully help resolve the problem.