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There's always this on at half.com for only $132.32 - LINK.

Anybody know of any Andrew Hill books in the works?? I know, probably too obscure to merit a whole book. But still, I think it'd be an interesting read, especially if Andrew contributed to fill in all those years he was doing things like teaching, playing in prisons, and even being a church musican. Not a 1,000 page tome, mind you - but something as least as meaty as some of the Da Capo books I have, like the ones on Dolphy and Dexter Gordon, for instance.

I was just lookin' for these two forums (below), and BAM! -- there it was -- a redskin Political forum page, stairin' me right in the face!!!! Cool idea, by the way - having the political forums have their own "red" skin. Would really help people remember that that part of the board can really be it's very own animal.

OK, found it at half.com, you gotta search for "Miles Davis Complete". Cheapest one (and it happens to be still sealed) is $84 plus $2.50 S&H for a total of $86.50. So, the question is this... Is "disc 1" worth between $28 and $36 to you???? (Cuz that's the difference between $50 and "the going market rate".) Or does anybody else know of any cheaper??? Or better yet, any stray 'disc 1' PN CD's needing good homes!!

Judging from the closed auctions on eBay, the cheapest one that sold on eBay recently went for $74 plus $4 S&H, for a total of $78. Oddly enough, there are none at half.com right now, which I can't believe (but maybe I'm not doing the search right, or it's listed funny). So, then, the question is weather you can find a "disc 1" of the PN set for anything like $10 or so, which seems like a fairly decent possibility. There's a "disc 7" on eBay right now, so these things do turn up for time to time. For $50, I'd sure think about getting it. Maybe make them an offer of $40, and see if the meet you in the middle at $45?? Just a another idea. Also, I'm sure somebody here could burn you a copy of the first disc - so it's not like you'd be without the music. Also, if you do buy it - put out the word here that you're lookin' for a 'disc 1' of the PN set, so we can grab one for you if we see it floating around sometime. Hell, anybody here know of any loose PN discs currently for sale anywhere???

Anybody heard any of the promos of this that are already on the street?? I've seen 'em on eBay, but wanna wait for the real deal. Still, I'd be curious to hear some early impressions of the unreleased material.

Sound great!!! What time's dinner?? I can be over to your place in about 5 minutes.

he-he-larious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LINK that works Damn, that's a ton of $cratch for an old LP!!!!

Wow, what a great idea!!! I'd love to take that ball and run with it in my area, but I wouldn't know even where to start??? But I do personally know a few dozen of the best "younger" or more "creative" musicians in this area (jazz and classical), so I guess that's at least something. What escapes me is how best to go about promoting stuff, because it seems like nobody in this town (Kansas City) really knows how to promote anything -- or at least such that some people actually turn out. Everything really "happening" locally is known mostly from grass-roots efforts, word-of-mouth, and the like. I wonder where the people are that are the target audience for real live jazz, and how to get them out the door in the the club/venue where the stuffs happening. How do you create enough 'buzz' about important local music, to get some butts off the couch?? For instance, we have an incredible world-class music conservatory here in Kansas City (at UMKC, with Bobby Watson at the helm), and I'd think that there'd be a potential audience to be had there (with at least some of the students there) - but I rarely see any fliers up there (on campus) advertising significant local jazz shows, or even national act shows (for that matter). Then again, without a "name" artist, I'm not sure that many people would ever come out for anything they didn't already know about first. Quite a puzzle. And I know a few guys in town who spend $4,000-$6,000 on new stereo equipment (every 5 years), and probably $2,000-$3,000 per year on recordings (including plenty of expensive Japanese imports), and they go to only like 6 or 8 live jazz shows per year, most of which are "bigger names" passing through town. Not necessarily just "huge" names, but even lesser known guys, like a "Greg Tardy", for example. But I almost NEVER see any of these same guys, at any of the more happenin' things going on, made up of exclusively local cats. I just don't get it. SACD's be damned, some of that money (that $3,000 per year in high-end music and/or equipment) could be going to the local jazz food-chain, the way I see it. What does it take?? Personal phone calls to specific people saying "hey, this act really is something worth seeing, you'd better not miss it"???

Which reminds me - does anyone remember back on the BNBB, when Bo would change the color-schemes occasionally, to some really WILD ( ) rainbow-like colors!!! Man, it was like we were all having a collective acid trip or somethin'...

Wow, what's this?????????? Link: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...p?&showforum=17 A taste of the future, perhaps??? Cool!!!!!

Can't wait!!!!! Jack Johnson is one of my alltime favorite Miles albums, and for years I specifically tried to find other Miles tracks that were clearly similar to side one of the Jack Johnson album. "Go Ahead John", "Duran" and "Willie Nelson" come to mind, especially. Man, I can't wait to hear the unreleased material!!

Wow, glad you like it so much. I would almost tend to agree, by and large, although it sounds as if you like it even better than I do!!

I just picked up the new one on Monday, and it is totally the shit, and the two tunes with voices in foreign languages will blow your mind!! I think JAMO is pushing the boundries of jazz -- and with a piano trio, for god's sake!! -- like nobody else I can think of who's under 40. An incredible album for anyone who has ears for Andrew Hill. (I could say that about almost anything Moran's released.)

Zornly if you say so...

Oh, come on. Now you're just being Zorn-y.

Mine too.

What's the place in St. Louis? Ted something or 'nother. Killin'.

I am not a fat-fuck!!!! (although I probably am a lard-ass. )

Well, if I could just loose 5 or 10 lbs, I'd be in the "overweight" category (just barely). -_-

The SIX Organissimo discs I ordered came in the mail TODAY. Listening to mine right now... Also, let me know what paperwork I need to file, (and where to send it) -- in order to qualify to get this particular sin absolved. Or maybe there some sort of on-line form I can fill out, on the main Organissimo.org site?? (But if there is one there, I couldn't find it. )

Darker the chocolate, better the benefits? Study: When it comes to health, all chocolates not the same Wednesday, August 27, 2003 Posted: 1:16 PM EDT (1716 GMT) Researchers say eating dark chocolate raises antioxidant levels, but eating millk chocolate, or drinking milk with the confection, provides no benefit. (AP) -- After a sweaty health club workout, don't kid yourself that the candy bar in your gym bag is health food. Despite the recent buzz over the confection's heart-protecting qualities, new research suggests that not all kinds of chocolate are beneficial. European researchers say eating milk chocolate, which is most commonly used in candy bars, does not raise antioxidant levels in the bloodstream. They found the same discouraging result among patients who drank milk while eating dark chocolate. The results suggest that milk and other dairy products somehow discourage the body's ability to absorb the protective compounds in chocolate. Only subjects who ate dark chocolate showed a temporary increase in their antioxidant levels. Details of the study appear in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature. "This puts in question the possible protective effects of (chocolate) milk shakes or ice cream or other dairy products," said co-author Alan Crozier of the University of Glasgow. Nor does Crozier endorse the idea that eating dark chocolate is healthier. It still contains plenty of fat and sugar. "Don't think by eating five or six bars a day you're doing yourself any good," he said. The blood pressure effect Cocoa beans contain plant chemicals called flavonoids, a kind of antioxidant polyphenol present in many fruits, vegetables, tea and red wine. Some studies indicate flavonoids protect the heart from damaging effects of unstable oxygen compounds called free radicals that, among other things, can damage blood vessels. A German study published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association suggests that eating dark chocolate can lower blood pressure. Other experiments show cocoa flavonoids may reduce harmful blood clotting properties and decrease low-density-lipoprotein (LDL), known as the "bad cholesterol." The JAMA study involved adults with untreated mild hypertension who ate 3-ounce chocolate bars daily for two weeks. Half of the patients got white chocolate, half got dark chocolate. Blood pressure remained pretty much unchanged in the group that ate white chocolate, which does not contain polyphenols. But after two weeks, systolic blood pressure -- the top number -- had dropped an average of five points in the dark-chocolate group. The lower, or diastolic, reading fell an average of almost two points. In 1998, a Harvard study of nearly 8,000 of its male graduates determined that eating the equivalent of few bars of chocolate a month lowered the risk of death by 36 percent as compared to abstainers. No recommended daily allowance In the latest experiments, which were conducted without industry funding, Crozier and researchers in Italy first determined the antioxidant levels of dark chocolate and milk chocolate in the lab. Dark chocolate had twice as much, Crozier said, in part because milk chocolate contains only about half as much actual chocolate. The researchers then gave chocolate bars to seven women and five men who were between 25 and 35 years old. All of the participants were nonsmokers, had normal blood lipid levels, took no prescription drugs or vitamins and were not overweight. After they ate dark chocolate bars, the antioxidant potential measured in their blood increased an average of 18 percent and remained elevated for three hours. Lead author Mauro Serafini said the subjects' antioxidant potential did not rise noticeably when they consumed a glass of whole milk with the dark chocolate, or when they ate milk chocolate. He said it's possible that antioxidants bind with milk proteins making absorption more difficult. Scientists who did not contribute to the research said the protective aspects of flavonoids in chocolate have not been proven. "I guess this means to be healthy you should eat chocolate with red wine," said Andrew L. Waterhouse, a nutrition professor at the University of California at Davis. "That is, if you believe the antioxidant hypothesis. "No one has taken flavonoids, given them to people in a controlled scenario and shown that people who take them are more healthy than those who don't," he said. Dr. Robert H. Eckel, a spokesman for the American Heart Association, said there is not enough information to recommend chocolate as a food that reduces the risk of heart disease.

Man, I'm dying to find DARK Chocolate covered pretzels somewhere. I'm sure it's been done, but I've never seen them before. I'm a TOTAL dark-chocolate nut, to the point of prefering bittersweet baking chocolate, over semi-sweet. (But no, even I can't handle unsweetened. Even I have my limits!!). Dark chocolate, all the way!!!!

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