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What about those all those Japanese(!) Blue Note cheapos with the generic blue and white covers (maybe a little black in there too). I want to say they all said “Best Selection” or something similar — but the weren’t compilations, but rather full albums, in GREAT sound quality too (iirc) — or at least LIGHT YEARS better than the Applause CD issues of similar Blue Note stuff. I had an Ornette one (maybe one or both of the Golden Circles?), and Jackie McClean too (maybe one of the pianoless titles with Grachan Moncur and Bobby Hutcherson?). Maybe a couple more, I can’t remember. Circa early 90’s, iirc. I only ever saw them at Euclid Records and/or Vintage Vinyl in St. Louis. Anybody else remember these?? Not that the cover art was ‘bad’ — it was just generic, and all the same for every album — except the text. Might not have even had tray-card inserts, iirc. But the sound quality was damn good, pretty similar to full-blown TOCJ’s, iirc. Anybody? Were these legit? I know the Applause were supposedly legit, at least on LP and cassettes (then subject to a later lawsuit in the CD era, which BN somehow won and got Applause shut down from issuing more CD’s) — iirc. But no idea about the origin and legal status of the Japanese “Best Selection” BN titles. Always wondered about them, especially given the sound quality. Was this one of them?? https://www.amazon.com/Ornette-Coleman-Trio-Best-Selection/dp/B000OV33CW Edit: I seem to remember one of the other titles I had in this cheap series was a Blue Mitchel BN (maybe the one (or one of the ones?) with Joe Henderson?) Forgot to mention I rarely paid more than $7-$8 for them back then, iirc. Here’s Joe Henderson’s Our Thing… https://m.bonanza.com/listings/our-thing-best-selection-by-joe-henderson-cd-jazz-master-series/1163446999?goog_pla=1&gpid=293946777986&keyword=&goog_pla=1&pos=&ad_type=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4peOq4ai9AIVGPrICh2_HgqqEAQYASABEgJEKfD_BwE or here too.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/203295065228#vi__app-cvip-panel Duke Pearson… https://www.ebay.com/itm/164907796743

Charles Tolliver — Impact The “big band” one on Strata East (with a few strings, iirc)… https://www.discogs.com/release/1234323-Charles-Tolliver-Music-Inc-Orchestra-Impact And the live Music Inc quartet one, which has some nice bonus tracks on several of the more recent CD issues… https://www.discogs.com/release/5227891-Music-Inc-Charles-Tolliver-Stanley-Cowell-Ron-Mathewson-Alvin-Queen-Impact This one has the bonus material… https://www.discogs.com/release/3420811-Charles-Tolliver-Impact

A recent live version of “Bachafillen” — if less than a decade ago can be considered ‘recent’. "Bachafillen" by Garnett Brown, arr. Thad Jones, transcribed and edited by Dave Sharp. Performed by the University of Northern Iowa's Jazz Band One directed by Chris Merz at The HuB in downtown Cedar Falls, Iowa on February 9, 2012.

Thanks Jim. I’m eyeing a used copy of Festival Album (from 1966, also on PJ), the expanded CD issue — but it’s used, and close to $20, I thought I’d get some other opinions first. I’m streaming it now, and I keep going back and forth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Festival_Album

I like the Jazz Crusaders by and large, but I have to admit I think the Mosaic was actually my first ever purchase of anything under that name (and I’m not really interested in any “Crusaders”). But I’ve never explored any of their live output. If I was just going to pick up one of two, which ones are best? Or do I need any of them at all? — if I’ve already got the studio box. I have to admit the box is probably slightly more than I would have bought, if I’d been picking them up one by one over the years. It’s all good, don’t get me wrong, but there’s a bit of a sameness to it all too. But how’s the live stuff? More of the same? Or am I missing out on something?

I mentioned Scandinavian folk and classical music above (around Christmas), but that’s definitely a “winter” thing too — with the start of December, there’s just a lot of synergy between music of the north, and winter — including Björk and The Sugarcubes too (being Icelandic and all).

I think I meant to say her dad is 3/4ths Swedish, and that she’s 3/8ths (not 5/8ths) — but I just double checked with her a little while ago, and some of that is Norwegian too — but still more Swedish than Norwegian.

We break out the Scandinavian folk-music, and Scandinavian chamber music after Thanksgiving — and it’s essentially “holiday” music for us, along with various Christmas musics. My wife is 5/8ths Swedish (her dad is 3/4ths).

Is this what they’re trying to reference with that “The Sound” business? https://www.discogs.com/release/4111684-Stan-Getz-The-Sound As if the title of one album — and a compilation at that (according to Discogs) — makes that some sort of nickname that Getz seemingly never had. (At least that’s all I’m really getting from Goggle — searching on Getz’ name, and “the sound” in quotes as a literal search string.)

Maybe when Pat Metheny kicks the bucket, Kenny G can release an albums of “duets” with him too.

I thought so too, but then I’m also seeing this, which may put Pfizer and Moderna on more of an equal footing? Maybe? Per the CDC: “COVID-19 booster shots are the same formulation as the current COVID-19 vaccines. However, in the case of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine booster shot, it is half the dose of the vaccine people get for their initial series.”

I got J&J back in March, and I plan to get a booster shot a week from tomorrow — and I’m just seeing I can just as easily get Pfizer as Moderna — and I’m suddenly wondering which one I should get?? (Definitely not getting J&J again.)

Lord, and that’s the actual title of the album too??!!???

I listened to this a LOT back around 1991-92 (and I know the year, because it was when I was working on my second BA) — and now whenever I go back to it every 4-5 years or so, I’m shocked how familiar it all seems, even all these years later. I’ve never made any sense of it, but I do feel like I connected with it pretty darn well back then, when I was about 21.

DL only, I presume. (Surely no physical media, I couldn’t imagine.)

The Mosaic site has a new "expected release date" of Dec 1st (was previously Nov 15, as recently as a day or two ago). Not terribly surprised, and I'll just be glad if I can get it by a few days Christmas.

Can someone delete this thread entirely by tomorrow? A little discussion here for several hours (even a few hours more) probably won’t hurt anything — but these sorts of factless charges shouldn’t be allowed to linger, not even as a locked thread. That would be much appreciated.

I’m not questioning your honesty, but this just isn’t the place for vague third-hand charges against specific individuals.

This just isn’t the place for vague charges against specific individuals. One can argue whether other places are (or aren’t) appropriate for that — but this is definitely NOT the forum for it.

Agreed

IMHO, this isn’t the place to air all that — and personally I’d rather keep the Organissimo board out of the business of such speculation. I’m sure a mod or two can weigh in. Our gracious host doesn’t need to have the name of this board attached to any further legs such suggestions might lead to. IMHO, of course. Not trying to be protective of bad actors, nor coming down too hard on you Simon (honestly). But vaguer than vague third-person hearsay about real people probably isn’t good for a public discussion board such as ours. On Reddit or something akin to Usenet forums would be one thing, but let’s not go there here, thank you very much.

I’ll just say ‘perhaps’ with a very lowercase ‘p’. But unless there’s some actual transgressive behavior involving specific other people (bringing actual accusations) that just isn’t publicly known about (and I’m absolutely assuming there isn’t, because Wynton seems to me to probably ok enough as far as all that goes), then this is simply the case of another older, sexist guy — of which there are millions. At 60, he’s simply part of a generation that was guilty of sexism, and a generation that decreasingly matters as much any more. (I’m only 8 years younger than him, and I feel like people my age matter less and less all the time). Hard to imagine anyone trying to single out Wynton, unless there are numerous smoking guns — a dozens emails, etc… It would take a LOT more than simple sexism to be even remotely newsworthy these days.

I think(?) part of what really got to me in the dream, was that a bunch of random people just gettin’ by in the world (not necessarily ’bad’ people, but definitely “chaotic neutral” people if you know what I mean) who thought it was all discarded junk that nobody wanted and had just left behind, and maybe they could get $5 a handful for it somehow. I don’t value any of it as ‘collectable’, and certainly not because it’s ‘collectable’— but I don’t have any of it backed up on hard drives, and my value of my collection is the music itself, which I experience by listening to it from the physical items themselves. And it was all gone before I even knew what happened.

Just woke up suddenly, barely half an hour ago — plus another half hour writing this all out on my phone — at the point in dream where I was suddenly realizing that 80-90% of my jazz and 20th century classical collection (all cd’s), was all gone. For some reason a set of neighbors, a couple (two middle-age women) who were good friends that we’ve known for years — and oddly they were fictitious people in the dream, not actual neighbors or specific people we actually know — but an amalgam of the kinds of people good-hearted, decent people we’ve known and liked best over the years…. And somehow my wife and I, and this couple, all had legit access to another (third) empty neighboring apartment, which we collectively used as a place to hang out (more individually, than as a group), and for extra storage, etc… So naturally, I moved all my jazz and 20th century classical cd’s over there, all my Mosaics too, since my wife has limited interest in listening to that stuff, and I had a nice bookshelf stereo over there, and it was my sort “music” man-cave. So one day I discover some sort of group meeting in this extra apartment space, of maybe 20 people. Some sort of focus group, or Amway sales presentation, or who knows what the hell it was — but the audience was all random people, maybe a little on the “street-people” side of the continuum. And when the meeting was over, I guess(?) everyone thought — what the heck are all these CD’s? Did someone just leave them all behind? (Did they just think it was an empty, abandoned apartment?) And I guess all my jazz books were over there too. And they all decided to take whatever they want, and then it was all gone. A random 10-20% was left over, but it was truly random, as if they’d had no idea whatsoever what any of it was, just stuff to try and — I don’t know — pawn? Or whatever, but they were random people who knew nothing of the music, or of the last 30 years of time and effort it had taken me to assemble. And it was all gone, in 20 different unknown directions, picked over by people who weren’t grabbing for “the good stuff”, but just taking random handfuls for, who knows, just hoping they can get a dollar for each one somewhere. And (in my dream) just as I was coming to terms with the realization of what had happened, that’s when I suddenly woke up, and it took me 10-15 seconds to realize the dream wasn’t real. None of my stuff was gone. It never happened. In the dream it wasn’t a flood carrying everything away, or a fire. But just random strangers from some pyramid scheme sales pitch in-person meeting, taking nearly all my stuff entirely randomly, probably not seeing any of it having more value than pennies on the dollar for what I put into assembling it all. I’m a little shocked how deeply this dream stabbed at me, and felt so real. I’ve had bad dreams before, maybe a handful a year at most, but NEVER, ever about stuff. Sobering. More than I care to admit.

What I want to know, is whether there’s ever been a ‘piano’ corollary to the notion that Ornette Coleman(!) was ultimately and deeply steeped in the blues. Half seriously. I can imagine such an idea in my mind’s eye (really, my mind’s ear) — but I can’t think of who would fit the bill. My sense is that Don Pullen might fit the bill, but I have to confess I don’t know enough of Pullen’s output to know if that comparison is even appropriate. (My sense of Pullen is based more what I think I know about him — way more than what I’ve actually heard). Anybody else?? (Or correct me if I’m off base about considering Pullen in that way).