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Just listened to / listening to again -- the entirety of disc one of the Complete "Is" -- and Maupin is way more in Wayne's territory (imho), than I think I've ever heard him before, or since. Hard to say if I'd actually mistake Maupin for Wayne if I was hearing this material for the very first time -- but I think(?) this is about as close as ANYONE in this timeframe ever got to Wayne's sort of approach. And now that I'm listening more closely the second time thru, I am definitely hearing a lot of moments that really sound like Wayne -- maybe even a LOT like Wayne in spots.

That's pretty darn brilliant, if you ask me. I've never even considered for an instant getting AirPods -- because they're so much pricier than the standard issue wired earbuds you get with most iPhones. But with features like that, I might -- just might -- consider getting a set someday. Not because I especially need that feature (far as I know, my hearing is 90% of normal, or some such -- which reminds me, I've been meaning to get into see an audiologist for about 20-25 years, which is how long it's been since I've had my ears tested). But quite seriously, it's features like that which would make me consider paying the extra, just to have a set of probably better-than-makeshift hearing aids, which could be quite useful in certain situations, I would imagine. Maybe nothing I'd necessarily want/need right now, but if things ever get back to normal-er (post-pandemic, will that even be a thing?) -- say in about 5 years.

Yeah, Dan. I’d sample the hell out of Understanding first (I think it’s all streamable, and might even all be on YouTube too), if I were you. I’d be shocked if it floated your boat much. It’s not so much crazy-out, as it is crazy-intense (especially Garnett, much of whom is farther out than Maupin on the Lighthouse set).

I think(?) I remember a decade ago comparing Maupin to Wayne(!) specifically on that first disk of the Chick Complete “Is” Sessions. But I can’t remember exactly how much I thought his technical approach on that material reminded me of Wayne, or if it was more an overall impression I had. In any case, at one point I used to think Maupin was really channeling Wayne in at least some regard on those “Is” Sessions — specifically Wayne’s playing from around 1969, plus or minus a couple years (at most). EDIT: But I don’t think (and never thought) he sounds particularly Wayne-y on the Lighthouse dates.

From 1973... 15 Kinder & Brötzmann, Van Hove, Bennink – Free Jazz Und Kinder Original single info here... https://www.discogs.com/release/1411440-15-Kinder-Br%C3%B6tzmann-Van-Hove-Bennink-Free-Jazz-Und-Kinder But the images (shown here) are a little clearer from this 2020 reissue (separate Discogs link down below the images to the 2020 reissue). Must have been a gatefold single (since there are four panels shown on Discogs). https://www.discogs.com/release/15656021-15-Kinder-Br%C3%B6tzmann-Van-Hove-Bennink-Free-Jazz-Und-Kinder

This is actually from a 7" single, it would appear... https://www.discogs.com/release/7325446-Frank-OHara-Allen-Ginsberg-Giancarlo-Sbragia-Cicci-Santucci-Enzo-Scoppa-Poeti-Moderni-Americani

Wait, did the Brecker Bros become Daft Punk? https://www.discogs.com/release/1453176-The-Brecker-Brothers-East-River-Petals

Post whatever suits your fancy in this thread: Sleeve covers for 7" singles that might be fairly obscure (though you could argue that 7" singles outside of pop music are, by definition, pretty obscure)... These appear to be the images on the opposite sides of the same picture sleeve (for the same single) -- what prompted me to start this thread... https://www.discogs.com/release/13608917-Terumasa-Hino-Pyramid-Think-About-It

Yes, very much looking forward to this too!! I'll bet the 80's are just as unfairly maligned as the 70's -- or at least the first half of the 80's at least (which, after all, are more similar at least to the late 70's, an extension really). But then as one gets into 1985, and 86, 87 especially and after -- I think that's starting to feel like quite a different time. I feel the same way about pop music too (specifically about the 80s'). Not at all suggesting "I'm right" in that perception, but it is a rather strong feeling I've had for the last 10 or 20 years.

Can't disagree. I find some of his lyrics (and humor) entertaining, even a fair bit I might describe as being almost "very entertaining" -- but little of it is especially "funny" per se. I think you have to 'get' Zappa's humor -- and for about 15 years, I feel like I kinda, sorta got some of it -- but nowadays, not as much.

Anyone have a line on a reasonably priced copy of the Dennis OJC on CD? A buddy burned a copy for me, after I'd been enjoying it online streaming for a while -- I'm spinning it this very moment -- and am reminded I really need to track down a legit copy. Such a wonderful album, and I'll second the observations above that he could have had a much bigger impact, had he recorded more. Dennis has like almost a classical approach, but with a fair bit more soul (or maybe depth is a better word) in many spots, more than I typically associate with players to come at jazz from a classical perspective (not that he's entirely one way, or the other, mind you). Really quite lovely.

The Newark Flash!!

I'm only on the fence about the price, not the getting. $20 or even $22 would be one thing, but $28 is another. I'll probably bite the bullet and get it, regardless, but I may wait a month or two to see if it comes down any, or if I can somehow score a deal.

Don’t know about “at the time” (my Zappa deep dive ran from the late 80’s but only for about 20 years)… but I’ve always found Zappa far more “humorous” than necessary “funny”, if that makes any sense. I appreciate a lot of Zappa’s humor, but certainly not all of it. It’s been a good 10 or 15 years since I’ve listened to lots of Zappa, and I seem to remember appreciating his humor better when I was more immersed in it.

1 minute teaser!

Yup. And too tooty too.

All Seeing Eye, surely, and the like. Also, Herbie's playing on Tyrone Washington's unreleased 2nd BN leader date is very similar too, very percussive throughout. LOVE that side of Herbie. Comes out a bit on Grachan Moncur's Some Other Stuff. I sure wish he'd done a piano-trio(!) record playing just like that, with that overly percussive approach -- circa 1968 -- 'traditional' instrumentation sure, but what for him would have been some pretty ballsy playing. Could have been an incredible album.

And I'm just finding that he has a son, Daahoud Salim, who is a classical pianist (and seems to also play jazz as well, from what I'm gleaning from random Googling a few minutes ago)... https://www.challengerecords.com/artists/1462260496 https://www.challengerecords.com/products/14691058093708 From a disk of an all Erwin Schulhoff program, here's the first movement of Schulhoff's piano concerto. (And me likey Schulhoff quite a bit too.) EDIT: Yeah, his kid's done/doing jazz too...

Pretty good bio of him found here. Seem to originally be from his own website (which is no longer active). http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/artist/abdu-salim Be sure to click on the "read more" link, right after "In 1978 through 1979 he..." -- to see the rest of the text.

Just stumbled on a version of "The Jody Grind"(!) -- for bassoon... Not that I was pining to ever hear such a thing -- but I did a double-take when when happened to come up on YouTube a minute ago...

A sort of mini-documentary about a project of his from 2007(?) -- almost 30 minutes total -- not in English, but what I've just skimmed of it all had subtitles... The description from the first video says... Abdu Salim has a new project: to create a Jazz Band formed by Afro-Americans living outside the U.S.A. Following all the process from Toulouse to Berlin, we know the person behind the musician, his motivations and his conflicts. The Jazz lived by Abdu Salim.

Never liked malls, but that was as much about not being interested in 90% of the wares being plied. Mall music stores were usually shit too, though occasionally their cut-out bins might hold some surprises now and again.

All I know is that love to hear the super serious national NPR ‘sponsorships’ announcer lady say “Duck Duck Go” — in her super serious “NPR sponsorships announcer lady” voice — as many as 4 or 5 times every morning, during Morning Edition.

I forget who, where, when, and how — but a few years after I started this thread (eons ago), I did track down a lead-sheet for the tune. I found one online, iirc, but it wasn’t accurate, and somehow got a better one. Seems like decades ago, now.