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Ok, thanks to both of you... so the info from Proper is trustable for once, who'd have thunk it!? Next question then: could it still be Pete Brown on alto, or is that ruled out by some reason (like he had a gig in another part of the country, or something? Any details about that in the biography?)

Bruyninckx: Similar to previous meaning: Wynonie "Mr. Blues" Harris and his All-Stars : Wynonie Harris (vcl) acc by Pat Jenkins, Joe Newman (tp) Tab Smith (as) Allen Eager (ts) Larry Belton (bar) Bill Doggett (p) Mary Osborne (g) Al McKibbon (b) Walter Johnson (d) (which is the band from the Nov. 30, 1946 NY Aladdin session) Lord gives mostly unknowns (unknown tp's, ts, bar, p, g, b, d possPete Brown (as) The Harlemaires (vcl group)) - maybe someone could check the latest online version? Then there's the Proper box, which again gives different personnel, but I guess no one would recommend to rely on them: unknown (t) (as) (ts) (bs), probably Chester Slater (p), Billy Butler (g), Percy Joell (b), Dorothea "Dottie" Smith (d), The Harlemaires: Slater, Butler, Joell, Smith (voc). Anyone has any insight there... asking this because I've been checking out the discography of Pete Brown's, following the intriguing discussion in the Hemphill-thread (that hopefully will be moved into a separate thread!)

OK, me again... yes, that's a great session! "Mound Bayou" is nice enough, no matter it's by Feather... Humes is great anyway, and Brown's backing on these tracks is very good! And yes, the band does indeed include Dizzy (or did you just mean he's one of the responders?), as well as Jimmy Hamilton, Sammy Price, Charlie Drayton and Ray Nathan. Helen Humes sings on three tracks (Mound Bayou, Unlucky Woman, (Can't Read, Can't Write) Gonna Buy Me a Telephone), while Nora Lee King sings on the fourth tune (The Cannon Ball). All lyrics on the Humes tunes are by Feather, "Unlucky Blues" is all by Feather (L & C Feather? Who's C?) A friend of mine just ordered one of the Tab Smith Delmarks... got to check that out once he gets it!

So is each noisy apeshit free tenor player showing an Ayler influence? Honestly I'm not so sure... and Ayler went way back, too... there was that amazing piece from Al Sears on a BFT a while ago. Not that far from where Ayler went, I think!

Yes indeed! The Carter session and the ones with Dizzy were the parts I knew before (as well as the nice album with Ronnie Ball). Great to have it all in one place, plenty of wonderful music there!

Ha, why did no one tell me there's a Pete Brown session on Hep's fine "Sounds of Harlem, Vol. 2"? There are also several tracks with Don Stoval on alto (spelled with one"l", it seems - same spelling on the tray card of the CD), first there are two by Joe Brown, and two more adding singer Jewel Paige. Then there's a Sam Price (same as Sammy Price?) date - four tracks with Emmett Berry, J.C. Heard, Stoval and Fess Williams (clarinet & alto). The Pete Brown date is at the very end of the disc, from Feb. 9, 1942, with Dizzy, Jimmy Hamilton, Price and singers Helen Humes (on three) and Nora Lee King (one title). Found the Frankie Newtwon disc... will listen to these now, intrigued - thanks everyone for the various hints and enthusiasm!

This thread has gone so far off topic... the discussions in other threads, mainly the Budd Johnson one, had me pop in Roy Eldridge's Pablo album "What It's All About" - with Norris Turney on alto. I'm not too familiar with him - Randy Weston's "Tanjah" (where he appears next to Budd Johnson, just on the Roy album), and of course lots of late Ellington. Where does he fit in?

Wow, thanks for all the replies, will check out the links (and spotify if it works here) tomorrow! I do have the Frankie Newton Classiscs disc, but damn if I knew where it is right now... will dig for it tomorrow, too. Ha! Make that a big fat line from Poppa Lee to Tony, please!

All the best, Rod! :party:

Where can he be heard? I've got the shortish Hawkins Newport 1957 disc and some stray stuff here and there (Frankie Newton, Sir Charles Thompson, Coleman Hawkins, Buster Bailey, Leonard Feather)

What's "influential", really? Biggest impact on jazz history, most disciples... in that respect, was Ammons influential? (Don't get me wrong, I love him!) Guess I might go with Don Byas... or with Chu Berry or Ben Webster. (edited for lousy spelling)

ok, amended... but that's about it with my disabilities

from Bill Kirchner's new liner notes to the Verve Master Edition of Boss Tenors in Orbit:

Yeah, thought so... guess I need them!

bumping this one, just because... well, because it's one of the finest comments on Sonny Stitt I've read, and I've remembered it for years... and now I found it again

bump - what about these: http://www.delmark.com/delmark.563.htm http://www.delmark.com/delmark.426.htm is Stitt ON or is he merely coasting, or a mix of both? been of a hefty Stitt binge lately, playing the Mosaic a a few dozen other discs, up and down, down and up...

...and that CD makes a discographical mess... also, there was a third album recorded over the same three days (and a later one with Levy, Chambers and Levey). This should really have been a Mosaic Select! Levy is funky as gets, Vinnegar always delivers, and Lewis, too... these guys got some of the best out of Getz around that time, too! And for those who care, I think the following corrects the lousy discographical info given on the Fresh Sound CD: Don’t Call Me Bird! - Sonny Stitt Quartet Sonny Stitt (as), Lou Levy (p), Leroy Vinnegar (b), Mel Lewis (d) 01. I Cover The Waterfront (Green-Heyman) (3:17) 02. Lazy Bones (Mercer-Carmichael) (7:41) 03. Sunday (Styne-Conn-Miller-Krueger) (3:54) 04. Just Friends (Lewis-Klenner) (3:48) 05. All Of Me (Simmons-Mark) (3:02) 06. Two Bad Days Blues (Stitt) (4:43) 07. It’s You Or No One (Styne-Cahn) (4:31) 08. Blue Smile (Stitt) (4:00) 09. Lonesome Road (Shildkret-Austin) (4:04) 10. The Gipsy (Reid) (4:03) 11. That’s The Way To Be (Stitt) (2:08) 12. There Is No Greater Love (Jones-Symes) (5:02) 13. Jaunty (Stitt) (5:11) 14. Blue Sunday (Stitt) (3:24) 15. The Way You Look Tonight (Kern-Fields) (5:02) #6, 8, 14: LA, Dec. 21, 1959 (two more titles - BLUE DEVIL BLUES, A BLUES OFFERING - were recorded that day, they were releaed on "Sonny Stitt Blows the Blues") #1-5, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13: LA, Dec. 23, 1959 (note: the same band recorded the rest - 6 more tracks in addition to two from Dec. 21 - of "Sonny Stitt Blows the Blues" on Dec. 22) #11, 15: NYC, Feb. 9, 1959 personnel: Amos Trice (p), George Morrow (b), Lennie McBrowne (d) (rest of this session released as "The Hard Swing", #15 included on both "The Hard Swing" and "Sonny Stitt Swings the Most"!) Fresh Sound has that one on a twofer with "The Hard Swing" (which I find somewhat... underwhelming)

I think that one came out not too long after Evans passed away and was released under Gordon Beck's name. Nice one ! That was a case of an image not appearing... here it is again, and indeed Beck is billed first:

two part article on Budd Johnson by Frank Driggs (yeah, I know...) from Jazz Review (Nov 1960 / Jan 1961): http://jazzstudiesonline.org/?q=node/1115 http://jazzstudiesonline.org/?q=node/1123 or straight to the PDFs if that's what you prefer: http://www.jazzstudiesonline.org/files/JREV3.9FULL.pdf http://www.jazzstudiesonline.org/files/JREV4.1Complete.pdf

Oops, sorry about that!

Found "Broadway Basie's Way" (Command, Stereo) with Little Jazz and Lockjaw today... heard the music before, cool to have a vinyl of it! Now I need "Hollywood Basie's Way", too, I guess... Also got an interesting looking one: "Seven Steps to Evans - A Tribute to the Compositions of Bill Evans" (MPS), by a quintet of Kenny Wheeler, Stan Sulzmann, Gordon Beck, Ron Mathewson and Tony Oxley. Never even heard of that one before!

By chance found out that this includes two bonus tracks: Bags' Groove (6:55) Four (6:08) They seem to be from the Nov. 30, 1957 Olympia Theatre concert: http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx?s=571130 Weird to just include two cuts... would have been worthwhile to include the entire set, for sure!

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