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The ones with Almeida were/are! Fine music, but a bit of a more flexible rhythm section (or drummer, it's Roy Harte) could have worked wonders, I think...

late as so often, but belated best wishes & congratulations! :party:

Sad news, but then he was around for a long time. I love his early playing, I think the Shank Pacific Mosaic is quite a bit underrated. In later years his tone got so ripe and emotional, his music was often of stark beauty... I guess you can tell I'm a fan!

The final tune of Complete Vogue Recordings Vol. 2, "Blues for Albert" is also a blues, obviously, it's only about two minutes and a piano solo. Vol. 4 has two further blues: "Buyer's Blues" as it's spelled on amazon.fr (I think it's "Byers' Blues", composed by Billy Byers) from the session with Allen Eager, and "Blouse Bleu" (blue blouse, a wordgame obviously), a short big band track featuring Solal in a few twelve bar solos between arranged parts by the band.

15 euros apiece. ...and now gone... after reading in this thread I would have ordered it for that prize, but hey, my bank account thanks him who was faster! Anyway, it being listed by caiman I guess it's more likely that if you order it, you'll just get a re-fund in a month...

One CD every ten years ... http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Sessions-Variou...s/dp/B00001ZSXK Yeah, that was the reference - great one! I was so happy to see the Dameron date on CD, finally!

No, unfortunately. missed this reply till today - thanks! would have loved to hear there's more and I'd only have to find it somewhere...

In serious: why don't they at least give us a compilation with the most succesful tracks from some of these sessions? Can't be all bad! Maybe a 2CD set with some nice booklet and lots of infos and session photos or something... and yes, that is to imply I fell for the joke... I don't quite get the use of april's fool's day anyway, so I'm not cautious...

Hey, good to hear that the st. quentin book is an easy read, brownie! I guess I can handle it then!

gee, let me look at the list... I'd like to get: Ahmed Abdul-Malik "Jazz Sahara" Walter Bishop Jr. "Trio" Al Cohn "Broadway" Honi Gordon "Sings" Charlie Mariano "Boston All-Stars" (the old OJC was a twofer of two 10 inch albums, I think, will this be the same?) Prestige Blues Swingers "Outskirts of Town" Ruth Price "At the Manne-Hole" Julian Priester "Keep Swingin'" Les Spann "Gemini" Duane Tatro "Jazz for Moderns" maybe also: Ray Draper "Quintet" Peter Erskine "Peter Erskine" Joe Farrell "Sonic Text" Ada Moore "Jazz Workshop Vo.l. 3" (or is that one in the Mingus Debut box? Will have to look it up) I don't know anything about: Claire Austin "When Your Lover Has Gone" Wild Bill Moore "Bottom Groove" Billie Poole "Confessin' the Blues" the rest I have, I think... they could have included some more of those all star things (in addition to the blues swingers I mean), "Roots" and "Earthy"...

Sorry, I missed the cut-off date!

Very good music indeed! But a blatant rip-off, I assume, of the Blue Note West Coast Classics CD (which contained the Gordon 10 inch album as a bonus) and the Koch CD reissue of the Atlantic album.

I have the Storyville Wax label CD - some of Jones' sides are on it, but not all (I guess that was a fair decision as the remaining sessions are more interesting... but still, with the actual CD being so cheap and the package so nice, they could have done a 2CD set instead...) Hart has alyways been fascinating to me ever since I got the Savoy 5LP complete Bird box 12 or 13 years ago (I think it was my first Bird, and what an impressive start it was!), and Hart is very good on the great "Red Cross" session (led by Tiny Grimes), which opens that box! (Also drummer Doc West I think was in that band of Lester Young's with no piano, which is sort of proto-bop, too - I think all that exists of that are two tunes from a live recording, alas.)

Yes indeed! Will spin this beautiful one again soon: I think it's quite a bit better than the rating it gets on AMG!

What about the tune "Bluesine"? I'm away from my discs and not googling around, but maybe that's a blues? Or did he ever cover some Parker blues tunes? Or on those MPS trio albums, maybe there's something there? (Sent you a PM, Allen!)

sounds intriguing, but where can I actually listen to his playing? (and what about Clyde Hart?)

That's a very cool selection! I've not seen those here, though... were they regularly sold in stores? In the usual OJCCD/RVG Remasters/Keepnews Edition "nice price" range, or more expensive? There'd be a few among them still on my list...

I had no idea Marty Grosz was related to George! I've loved Grosz' paintings for a long time, one of the most critical voices of Germany in the culturally very rich (at least up to the late 20s, that is) years between the wars. Why do these discussions and disclosures come up again and again in recent years? Is it because the heirs are dying themselves soon and trying to get at least some justice before they go? And why are the big museums such hard cases to break? Just because they don't want to create a precedence? I'm not sure that's enough to pay the prize of being ethically on the wrong side... On the other hand, cases like that one (was it the Klimt case? Or the Kirchner?) where the heirs get the paitings back only to sell them on the market I find problemtic to say the least... it's another difficult issue of course, but if all of them had such plans as the Grosz heirs have, that would be great of course! On the other hand, if it's their property, they can do what they like, but if they sell it to some rich moneybag who hides it away from the public, the question of ethics is risen anew, and not in favour of the heirs, I find...

ah well, you're lucky... I should learn to restrain myself again, too!

Now that's a warm embrace! I'll certainly have that in mind once those Sco discs are on top of the listening pile! Maybe you're right... and yes, that coldness thing might indeed go back to Miles (it also infected some acoustic jazz, in my opinion, i.e. VSOP, no denying that Herbie is great, and of course so is Tony Williams... but I just want to point out that this observation of mine includes the whole "traditional" part of 80s jazz as well, and may indeed start in the 70s already...) But the mere fact that Miles did it alas doesn't mean the others can do it and pull it off successfully. To this day, the best of Miles comeback stuff has a raw and unclutched quality that is oh so rare in most fusion music and still makes Miles' music very listenable to me. I guess that's the bad part of the great towering characters, just as Coltrane's influence taking on almost epidemic character in the mid/late 60s... Another interesting remark. I guess that goes to the opposite of what the "jazz police" would like to hear... but you may have a point. I consider "Up All Night" one of the most enjoyable albums of recent years, while the one with Garrett, Mehldau etc. is infected (I take it by the way of his young sidemen, then, not by his own fault) by that coldness I keep talking of... a live recording of the "Uberjam" band (with Avi Bortnick) I've heard was tremendously enjoyable as well! And although going in another musical direction, maybe that also shows in the Ray Charles project (at least in the great live recording I've heard on a radio broadcast some time ago).

Sorry about the little controversy I started over Tom Harrell - seems I misunderstood the use of "demons". I wasn't aware that only applies to drug (ab)use. I guess these misunderstandings happen all of the time but usually we just don't notice, but (I've made this point already and got some flac for it too, so don't hold back ) English remains a foreign language to many of us, even though it's the current lingua franca (I'm tempted to insert a "still", but of course I have no idea if Mandarin or Hindi will be next...). Anyway, I have the utmost respect for Harrell and have mentioned before how stunning I find his tone and musical conception. And for the other off-topic thing about genius, I tend to agree with niko that hard skills aren't a good measurement criteria (if there is one at all...) Now on topic again: I didn't know about that falling out between Shaw and Jefferson and Turre being the laughing winner of the situation - but the quintet with the t/tb frontline with Turre may have been Woody's most special band, I think! A line-up that's rarely seen.... J.J. made some sessions with Nat Adderley that are pretty cool, they're on the J.J. Columbia Mosaic, and of course there are the Fuller/Farmer and Bennie Green/Farmer albums, but still, it's not a very common line-up!

I think that's the one I've heard back then

I assume you found the right one, on Blvd Saint Michel? There are others, but only one (I couldn't tell you where it is, a five or ten minute walk from Saint-Mich) also has used CDs, I think.... found a Masters of Jazz disc by Benny Carter there, I think (and I couldn't restrain myself... I must have bought over 20 CDs at the big one in that week I spent in Paris...)

Sad news Will play some of his music again soon! I think I first took notice of him on those Vogue quartet sides with Martial Solal, very nice music!

Flurin - If you haven't already, check out "En Route Live" or the Trio Beyond recording on ECM for some great (IMO) recent Scofield. I find myself pulling these out (and some of his earliest stuff) more than alot of his BN and Gramavision era recordings nowadays. I also like the MSMW "Out Louder" recording, both the studio and live disc, but that may not be your cup of tea. I saw Scofield tour on the Ray Charles project tour, and thought he (and the material) was better live than on that record. Too many guest stars I suppose. I'm curious about the Piety Street record though, and hope having a vocalist doesn't take the focus off his playing too much. I was referring more to "Shinola" and "Out Like a Light" on Enja ----- pre-Gramavision. You know, it's funny because this discussion comes up (or rather: I intervene) when a pile of Sco discs are out here to be listened to again... from my memory, I quite enjoyed "Groove Elation" and "Quiet", as they both were a bit warmer and more varied. I also have "Shinola" but it's stacked away somewhere. "En Route" I have somewhere, as well. And yes, I think the energy and fun of the Ray Charles band wouldn't transpose nicely onto a studio disc, so even though I loved that concert, I never even checked out the CD... I've heard some boots of the Sco/Swallow/Stewart band, too, and I think they're quite cool. Trio Beyond I don't really know... I once left the disc behind when it was in a sales bin (there were too many others I wanted more badly...), but somehow I've regretted that as I remember hearing some bits on the radio, possibly even before it was released (it's a live recording, right?) Anyway, there's plenty of interesting stuff in his discography (though I've only heard one of the Grammavisions and although I have a lot of respect for Grolnick and enjoy his two Blue Note albums a lot, all these cheesy synths and Darry Jones' - I think? - electric bass and Sco's fusion-y guitar.... yuck yuck yuck, just the sound of it all, no way I could stand it, and that was back in the 90s when I was playing lots of 80s Miles and even some stuff such by guys like Stanley Clarke...).