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not quite jazz, but a great box I found used when in Paris (it's a recent release but OOP already, so I was lucky): I've played discs 1 and 2 (50s and early/mid 60s) and parts of disc 3 (late 60s and 70s) so far

oh, sorry, my bad!

I like Teddy a lot, in fact I've had this one (these two now, in the CD age) on my wishlist ever since reading my first books on jazz (Arrigo Polillo's and J.E. Berendt's books they were, the later of whom recommends this one in his short list of recommended listening.

I placed an order with UK Amazon (not the Monk set) on Tuesday 9th; it was delivered yesterday. I don't believe anyone has received a copy yet to determine that. Yup, one luck bastid did... Daniel, can you enlighten us?

The Modena concert was broadcast (not in its entirety, alas) on Italian radio and put up on dime, I only just burned it to disc last night, didn't have time to listen yet... sounds like this is a pretty weird package... the Wire review of the quartet's London gig some time ago wasn't much more enthusiast...

Interesting thread indeed. Not sure I can add a lot, but of course ole clem is onto something when he mentions Derek Bailey. I bet most of you jazzheads and harbop-centred fans (now in the macro perspective, there's nothing as unsurprising as hardbop, no? of course there are countless great solos, fascinating turns and twists and "kairos") would be really caught off-guard by Derek's Tzadik album "Ballads" (a new one with a similar concept has just come out, titled Standards) - haven't heard it yet). On the other hand even though "surprise" may lie in the center of improv, it can still turn out boring, full of chliché, and totally unsurprising, too, of course. There are also the personal surprises, like hearing some particular musician for the first time and being struck by how much one likes the music, how wrong one's idea of this musician before was... or the moments where you reconsider someone, not by slowly getting used to someone's music, but by this moment of surprise, where all of a sudden something you have known and just found ok or merely interesting, hits you as a surprise. (I had some such moments with Wirbur Ware, lately... never understood all the attention he got, but I loved him on the Jenkins/Jordan/Timmons album as well as his own Riverside, and mostly on Griffin's "Way Out", which to me - even though I've loved Griffin for quite a while - was a very pleasant surprise, in how great it is, including Wilbur Ware's bass playing.)

I thought about that but I have no experience doing stuff like this, so I better don't try...

I think mine's by now a little bit rustier... it's funny, all the time it was at my parents' house, it rusted very slowly, after I moved it to our own flat, it started rusting much faster... and I think it even makes a difference in what room I keep it... will have to remove the discs from the box now, I hate getting all dirty fingers each time I touch it! But the general idea I find kind of cool, I have to admit!

How about the Warner albums, wasn't there one more solo? Ah, I see... that's another overdubbing thing: Bill Evans Solo Bill Evans (p, el-p) overdubbing himself NYC, January 26-28 & 30, February 13-16, 1978 Song For Helen Warner Bros. BSK 3177-Y Nobody Else But Me - Maxine - For Nenette - I Love My Wife - Remembering The Rain - After You - Reflections In D - * Bill Evans - New Conversations (Warner Bros. BSK 3177-Y)

Ah, now I understand! I thought there was a third album... I guess I should check out the other one then, eventually!

Yeah, but this one's on Prestige, too: It's this one I feel ambiguous about.

Just make sure you don't end up spending the rest of your days without it, it's too good to miss! Nothing else I can add... don't have much Bags yet, myself. brownie: the two Prestiges, the first is the Milt Jackson Quartet, I assume (I have it and find it... subdued on good days, boring on bad... it's a late night disc, to me, very quiet and all), but what's the second one? (And then I assume all the other OJCs were done for Riverside and later Pablo?)

I guess they would be the same - it wouldn't make sense to produce the same discs in several locations in Europe... I'll have to look for the Rouse at least - I always remembered seing the old US CD reissue being announced in other Columbia discs... time to check it out, eventually!

Happy Birthday!

You think German trains are expensive? Take out a 2nd mortgage or sell a few Mosaics before you use one here.. I can't swim... but there's Easyjet to Luton... but you wouldn't want to go to Luton either.... No, but there's a train directly into London from there... no need to stay in Luton. And if you book the train like 5 years ahead, paired with your cheapo last minute flight, it costs only something like 5 pound or so... he he. No car lover here... in fact unable to drive, but now let's get back to Monk!

Michael Moore - one of my big favourites, great clarinet player as well!

Add Stefano di Battista!

Thanks again everybody! Is there more like that one track recorded by Bud Powell? Not bands/musicians specialising in Bach or doing a whole album of such music, but rather just one tune on an album? I assume there has to be more, but I don't know, myself...

just finished disc 1, continuing with discs 2 and 3 now, probably 4 won't fit today... like this one a lot!

You think German trains are expensive? Take out a 2nd mortgage or sell a few Mosaics before you use one here.. I can't swim... but there's Easyjet to Luton...

Can you and Jim recommend something specific by these two groups? I only have the double six as vocal group on other albums (in fact only one, I think by the MJQ), and nothing at all by the Swingle Singers, so I have no idea what there is!

I placed an order with UK Amazon (not the Monk set) on Tuesday 9th; it was delivered yesterday. I orderded on 9th, too, but haven't even gotten a shipping notification... As for my Stralsund trip, that needs to wait for a while, german trains are so effing expensive, and I wouldn't want to travel via Poland, if not necessary...

If this is really piracy, and I've got to admit, it rather looks like it, then the major companies could put a stop to it by issuing the same material with tiny profit margins at prices that would drive the pirates out of business. Since they don't, they're like someone who allows squatters on their land for seven years and lose it. Tough. No sympathy. MG Well, I guess it depends on your definition of "piracy" - it would be way out to think anyone lets Lonehill/Gamit/etc. even close to their vaults, hence they have to take the music from other releases, be it CDs, LPs, whatever (Classics does it that way, too, as far as I understand, mostly relying on some people's astonishing 78 collections). But since copyrights end after 50 years in Europe, the release of this material isn't piracy by law... so they're ripping off others work (I guess they use Japanese CDs, too) but what they're doing is still legal.

I don't know, but I guess they'd be acceptable, as the timeframe starts early enough to include ragtime and similar stuff, too, so why not the Swingle Singers...

A friend of mine has chosen to write his diploma/thesis at University on Bach material used by jazz musicians, hence its title, "Swinging Bach". The scope is 1890 to today, he wants to analyze various musicians and their way of dealing with Bach's compositions. He's aware of the Modern Jazz Quartet and John Lewis, of the Classical Jazz Quartet (with Kenny Barron), and of course of Jacques Louissier's "Play Bach" material. I also pointed out the little thing of Bud Powell's, "Bud on Bach", but haven't had a lot of time so far to delve deeper into this. The only thing I haven't told him about yet and I have, are these two fun compilations done by the French Sagajazz label: They proceed chronologically, thus the Bach tracks are the opening ones on volume 1. I don't have the discs at hand but it seems there are only two Bach tracks here: 01 Interprétation Swing du 1er mouvement du Concerto en ré mineur Eddie South 02 Bach Goes to Town Benny Goodman Any help appreciated! Just point out recordings and musicians, please!