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p.s. what a nice change to see a German team which can't defend, but which can score goals. Add the creativity and steel of Ballack, and they'll be useful, if vulnerable IMHO.

... If not for the Paraguay's own goal in the early minutes, this game may have gone into over-time with uncertain outcome. As per the Sweden - T/T game, these games end in draws. I think it's primarily (exclusively?) a MLS thing, playing extra time in non-knockout matches. Agreed - Shaka Hislop was fantastic. Showing the form which had him thought of as one of the best shot-stopping 'keepers in the Premiership a few seasons back. Had a gig, so missed England...the substitutions sound downright weird though...

YEah - Escapade

Rodney - what do you reckon about Tony Kofi? I don't know his stuff that well, but I guess he, Ben Castle, and Pete Wareham are the first-call bari players (albeit for different types of gig) around at the moment!

Do not sit on the fence!!! People will not part with these once they have them, so it's get it now or plan the heist

Neither choral nor piano - although there is a fine piano reduction - but I've always loved the 'Symphonic Dances'. I'd have to think about choral music (not familiar enough with the Vespers to suggest a particular recording) and the piano music...

A mate of mine has a boot of this - I think it began circulating as soon as a week after the show. I believe he was offered the choice of 'Black Vomit' and 'Leper Death'. Seriously.

A convincing case for the guy's importance! I'm ashamed to say I only know him from the Jimmy Smith things, but !

She played two nights solo in London a couple of weeks back - I was gigging both nights so couldn't make either show, but would have loved to have seen her. Am I right in thinking she's gigging with Archie Shepp quite regularly now? And I think she may also be on a fairly recent Shepp quartet recording. I wish I could get my mits on a copy of 'Song for Mother E'. All I have is 'Salutes Bessie Smith', Lester Bowie's 'The Fifth Power', and the duets with Muhal. All absolutely wonderful.

WFTBS is going for good money right here on Amazon.co.uk!

Wow - Tubby Hayes on bari! Would never have got there! Who was it on track 8? Great test, thank you! I've been educated.

The World Cup with Wogan would be incredible. If any BBC execs are reading...

I appreciate how good Wogan is (just on this one show, mind you ). He's a f*cking genius on this one night a year!

I appreciate how good Wogan is (just on this one show, mind you ). He's a f*cking genius on this one night a year!

Best comedy yet this year? Too right! Genius. Wogan was absolutely brilliant. I thought the Lithuanians were hilarious. Finland too. I was disappointed to see the Maltese, French and Israelis getting votes. All brilliantly diabolical.

Joe has been around for a long time. Born in 1929! Biography by Scott Yanow Baritonist Joe Temperley is the perfect musician to fill in for Harry Carney during recreations of Duke Ellington's music, a role that has often overshadowed his own fine voice. Temperley actually started on the alto and recorded on tenor with English bands led by Harry Parry (1949), Jack Parnell, Tony Crombie, and Tommy Whittle. He stuck to baritone during a long association with Humphrey Lyttelton's popular band (1958-1965). In 1965, Temperley moved to New York, working with a variety of big bands (including Woody Herman, Buddy Rich, Thad Jones-Mel Lewis, and Clark Terry). In 1974, he became the first replacement for Harry Carney with the Mercer Ellington Orchestra and then freelanced with the who's who of jazz including (starting in 1990) the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra under the direction of Wynton Marsalis. Temperley has several fine albums out as a leader, most notably for the Scottish Hep label; on the centennial of Ellington's birth, he released 1999's Double Duke. Not 5, Red. I may be letting on too much but we must be approaching the end now and it won't be too long before I put up the answers. I'm still hoping for more contributions to the discussion though - how about it? I'm stumped! I was aware that Temperley had been around for a long while; but am I right in thinking he's recorded only relatively recently (the last 15 years or so)? I think I read that biography whilst trying to pin down an answer as to which track he appears on. I hadn't realised he moved to NY and worked with all those other big bands! I'm increasingly inrigued by track 7. I also wondered whether Temperley might be the bari on 'Centrepiece'...

Is that Temperley on track 5? Big tone, for sure...recent enough recording...

I'm afraid I don't! If I'm honest, I'm not sure that I have any recordings of him...Am I imagining it, or is there one on Naxos? As far as that Cambridge gig goes, I've no idea if they've got it on tape. I guess they might, but I've never seen any evidence of it circulating.

One more thing before we start: nobody forget Joe Temperley, the UK bari player who took Carney's chair for a while towards the end, and is himself a wonderful player. Mmmmm....!!!! So... Give me a number! Thinking about Joe Temperley...I say Wynton Marsalis with the LCJO on their UK tour a few years back. In Cambridge (I don't know if he was with them for the whole tour), Marsalis got Temperley on stage to take the Harry Carney feature on Ellington's 'Sunset and the Mockingbird'. He played one of the most beautiful ballad performances I can remember seeing, received a round of applause from the band, and (for those who like their jazz macho) blew Marsalis off the stage. A really special performance

Absolutely, and still going strong! Saw him only a couple of months ago.

Expecting big things from you, Red! Agog! Please don't! My attainment in the game will not even match up to me enjoyment. Which said, you and I are going to fall out Where is Harry Carney? The greatest of them all! One more thing before we start: nobody forget Joe Temperley, the UK bari player who took Carney's chair for a while towards the end, and is himself a wonderful player. So... Track 1: wondeful piano intro. The touch is familiar, but I can't say who it is. Very filmic opening. The big band chart is great - fantastically rhythmically writing. Perhaps a little less harmonically adventurous than the opening sets up? Great trumpet section. It's big as well - which makes me think - is it Kenton? It could be Art Pepper on alto then...or Lennie Niehaus? Don't know the bari player, but enjoy his false fingerings. 2: Nice tune; it's the bastard child of 'Would You Like to Take a Walk' and 'Where or When'. Touch of the pianist reminds me of Hampton Hawes; I really enjoy the solo. Very idiomatic bop, before the concept got tired. Love the bari player's tone. Cecil Payne? No idea really...Great bass solo! 3: I'm hearing a lot of Basie...not sure. Like the track a lot. Nice solos all around (the tenor player has a bit of Griffin to him, and the drummer doubles up a lot like Philly Joe). No idea on the bari, although an attractive sound. 4: West Coast sound. Alto and Baritone - the Eb saxophones sound wonderful together (the great example surely being Hodges and Carney). I'll guess Bob Gordon on bari, but it is only a guess, and comes with the proviso that my knowledge of West Coast music is lamentable! Nice tight rhythm section - I don't like West Coast stuff where p/b/d just sit back; it can get a bit insipid. Nice transition here from bari to alto solos. That sounds like it could be Art Pepper, or is the tone that little bit soft? 5: Nice drumming. Tune is familiar (or is it just generic but attractive?), although can't put a name on it. Nice comping by the piano player! Like this track a lot. 6: Not crazy about the arrangement here. Tune isn't - but sounds like it's related to - Nelson's 'Blues and the Abstract Truth'. Actually tune is a bit stuttery for me. Solos are nice though. Finding with a lot of these tracks that players are very familiar, but difficult to pin down (ain't that just the way...). I love the way the tenor player just crashes in! He sounds like the ringer here. 7: Sounds like some kind of Tadd Dameron type tune, though wouldn't know if it is one of his. Like it a lot. I take it that's JJ? In which case - Leo Parker? 8: Not crazy about the piano player, but the horns work nicely together. The guitar is a nice textural touch. Good drumming! Bari player (whom - and you've spotted the pattern - I can't identify) swings really nicely. 9: Blue Bossa. Don't like this too much...don't know who the players are. Trombone solo is quite nice, I guess. Soprano solo? No thanks... 10: Nice arrangement! This really reminds me of those A.K. Salim arrangements for Savoy. 11: Like a lot, but no idea on the players. 12: Yes! Like it a lot as well. Fun drumming, fun tune. Really swings! Slightly nuts arrangement - the tune in 4ths is a bit unexpected; the pedal point section feels a bit bolted on, but somehow works. Then the soloists, who feel like they've been waiting like greyhounds in traps, are onto it! They actually sound a bit overexcitable. Fantastic. 13: Oh no, I'm not going to sleep until I name the tune. Pettiford one? No...I think it's a Golson tune the messengers played. Is that Art Farmer on trumpet? I want to say Pepper Adams, but I don't quite think so. Wonderful! 14: Attractive tune; again, a west coast thing going on. Could this be Mulligan? Or Bob Gordon? (Or should I stop showing my ignorance! ) 15: Nice Rollins-influenced calypso groove. Can't pick the players, although I like the bari player's grit. This is a fun track. 16: Piano player is interesting here. That intro is absolutely captivating - at once incredibly formulaic, but freewheeling and very intense. I like this track a lot - something I'd be very keen to have. Nice comping as well. Could this be the Fats Navarro/Howard McGhee, with - who? Cecil Payne? A great BFT, thank you. I think I've possibly enjoyed a higher proportion of the tracks on this than any other! Looking forwards to being educated with the answers.

Where is Brooklyn?

I hope to post some answers tomorrow evening/Wednesday - sorry - unexpectedly busy these last couple of days! Am listening as I type however, and am really enjoying it!

I've always enjoyed Abdul Wadud's stuff e.g. with Hemphill.