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I respectfully disagree about Prog Rock. While sometimes it has been regarded as pretentious--and in actual fact has sometimes been pretentious--I and many others have found value and enjoyment in this music. We are talking about Yes, Moody Blues, early Genesis, Jethro Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, King Crimson, and the biggest of all: Pink Floyd. This is a serious strand or genre within rock music.

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I am enjoying Tony Bennett's A Swingin' Christmas--from 2008 with the Basie Big Band. I don't think I've ever heard such heartache in "Christmas Time is Here."

I think we should re-energize this thread. I have actually done fairly little to follow Joey, other than his several appearances on John McLaughlin records. Oh, and there's the Yoshi's record with Pat Martino, which to these ears is about as good as guitar-organ-drums gets. I've recently been checking out Reboppin', which has a lot of good tracks, as well as the two-disc Christmas album. In short, he seems like someone I should look into more deeply.

John Coltrane for Rock HOF! I can guarantee he has been an influence on many rock musicians.

Gotta say, though, that "Time of the Season" is one of the greatest British rock songs of the 60's.

Don't mean to be cruel, but how about having more than 5 songs that anybody ever heard?

Seems to me that Jethro Tull and King Crimson are the two groups most deserving to go in and yet continue to be snubbed.

Anyone familiar with Joey Defrancesco Christmas--Home for the Holidays. It's two discs, and it's not bad--just been delving into a bit. There's a smoking version of "We Three Kings."

LOL. Anyway, there is the case of the Branford Marsalis Quartet doing A Love Supreme, as well as brother Wynton doing the same with LCO. Wasn't there a Latin version of Kind of Blue? Conrad Herwig?

I guess there's just not much stuff in this area (as opposed to jazz, blues, Americana, etc.) that tickles my ear. On the other hand, I have just sampled some Radiohead; and their stuff (what I've heard, at least) sounds good and worthy of further exploration.

Count me as a Jethro Tull fan, big time. That is a band that should have been in a long time ago. Todd Rundgren is an amazing talent in every facet of music and should be in. The Zombies...well, there have been many groups who got together (in whole or in part) decades past their heyday and tour and record; yet ask the man/woman on the street if they know this, the answer is no. And are these groups creative in their reunion years? The answer is usually no. If HUGE visibility and sales are prime criteria, then I'm sure Kenny G. is in some kind of jazz hall of fame.

I'll take Hank over any of these inductees!

Geez, I looked up some info on The Zombies and found they released two albums in the 60's. Two??? I know it was still a time of singles, but TWO albums?

I don't know if many people care. I'm from the Cleveland area and I grew up on Rock before discovering jazz. I've been to the the Rock Hall a couple of times, and all told it's not bad. But inductees at this point...not much happening here, seems to me. The Cure--heard the name, but don't know, don't care. Def Leppard--don't care. Janet Jackson--don't care. Stevie Nicks--good with Mac, but her solo career is not substantial. Radiohead--heard the name, but don't know, don't care. Roxy Music--a few good tunes, but Hall of Fame? The Zombies--ditto. How long were the Zombies around?

What about the last few years? It sounds like he was performing, but not releasing new music. The last new one was Creation, recorded in 2014.

All well said. But I have to say I greatly value much stuff that I've downloaded, though precisely because it used to be rare. For example, almost everything I have by the Great Jazz Trio is in download digital format, and I have quite a few of John Abercrombie's records (especially earlier ones) as downloads. There were hard-to-impossible to find as records/CD's, and even if found they were cost prohibitive. Now such material is easily available for downloading, and at remarkably low cost.

I'm a little baffled by this, as I've had some awareness of records coming out, but I think at least three have been material from 10-20 years ago. I have never followed Jarrett real closely, but I have wound up collecting a fair amount of his stuff, especially the Standards Trio and more recently the American Quartet (sometimes trio). But I get the impression there has been nothing new in about 8 years. I know he's had (and perhaps still has) issues with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

It sounds like Netflix really sucks. I don't really use it, but my wife does (there's wives again). I would have to think there are several other services out there that provide classic movies. I know I've been meaning to watch All My Sons (with Edward G. Robinson) for some now on YouTube.

I just got around to watching the whole video. Interesting stuff on Netflix, as well as some many other things. Good final line: "If we are just going to borrow music, music itself may be on borrowed time." But in a sense I think we are in a good state in terms of preservation. Go to YouTube Music and see what's available in Jelly Roll Morton or Fats Waller or early Roy Eldridge. I submit you will find much more of this music that you could find back in the day browsing through even the most specialized record shops.

I would say that a physical book will last longer in terms of being readable over any kind of musical recording being listenable.

Wives in general have that attitude!

I don't stream very much, but I have downloaded a lot of music. I appreciate great music, and maybe it was greater in the past because of the care and attention it received. Years back I never really collected Lee Morgan and Hank Mobley, but now I have through downloading. But maybe I would have left them pretty neglected had I not earlier been a collector of tangible Blue Note classics. The stuff on the hard drive of my computer...I wonder if it's really there, I wonder it if it will mysteriously vanish. I know I forget about a lot of the albums/tracks I have downloaded.

An absolute classic. The closing scene is as memorable and moving as any I have even seen in cinema. And great clip put up Ghost of Miles. Kubrick made 5 minutes of screen time feel like two hours of pure terror and hell.

Some great stuff there. But I am also very fond of his Blue Note work as a sideman, and there is a large amount of that. Sometime back I created three playlists of his work on Blue Note, as leader and sideman and even some of the more modern dates like the solo and duo records from the 80's and 90's.