Milestones

So that's John Lewis on #10. I have that record (cassette actually), but not with the bonus track. People may not believe me, but Oscar could play as delicately as John Lewis. Jim Hall, then? A fairly young Hall, and not as distinctive as he later became.

I never was at all a fan of the 8-track, which was starting to die out by the time I started seriously collecting in 1978. I was into rock music at the time and found some good deals, although I thought the sound quality was poor. I think the only jazz 8-track I ever bought was a Nat Adderley date from the 70's.

I think it (Lue firing) was coming, but not that quickly. Season is already quite a mess.

The first time around I suggested that #10 was in the Oscar Peterson-Joe Pass-Ray Brown vein, but I didn't think I was any of those guys. Although this is well-played and has some real feeling, it does not show the distinctiveness of those players. But it sure does owe a lot to those players and that kind of style or concept.

It seems like he should have had a bigger career than he did have. Definitely some fine work with Tyner, as pointed out. Sahara instantly comes to mind. He also spent some time with Elvin. It Don't Mean a Thing is a really good one, especially Sonny's incredibly moving performance of "A Change is Gonna Come." R.I.P.

I was intrigued by CD’s from the start, and I was the first in my immediate environment who brought a CD player. This was in 1986 or 1987. I had initially been a big Rock guy, but had already shifted into being a huge jazz fan. Still, I waited until the Beatles’ records started coming out on the new format. My first CD was the first Beatles British CD: Please Please Me. I think my first jazz CD was Way Out West; Kind of Blue was among the earliest purchases. I also happened to be deeply into Classical at that time, so there were a lot of those CD’s in the early days—especially Mozart. The early CDs were expensive, so at first I built slowly. I used to do rather well on them at Christmas! My collection did become very large, especially once there was a lot to choose from at bargain prices. I rarely buy them nowadays, relying more on downloading and streamlining. I sometimes get them sat Half Price Books, but they’re not carrying much jazz anymore (actually, you have a better selection of jazz on vinyl at these stores: some old, some new). To be sure, I like the old LPs—probably for the cover art more than anything. I still like CDs. Digital is fine by me, but there are so many contrast to the old days.

Anyone know of this? An Irish writer named John Connolly has written something like 15 mysteries starring Charlie "Bird" Parker, an ex-cop of the NYPD. Not sure if he is also a brilliant bebop pioneer. I admit to knowing virtually nothing about these books. But seriously, Charlie Parker? What's next? John Coltrane P.I.?

I got a few of these when it was first posted, and I was close on #2 (knew it was Tyner) and #3 (knew it was Haden and thought it was Ornette). Track #2 is "Uptown" from Tyner's Inner Voices. Track #5 is "Hub-Tones" by Kamasi Washington. Track #6 is "De Pois do Amor" from Wayne Shorter's Odyssey of Iska. Track #7 is "Dreaming of the Master" by Art Ensemble of Chicago. Track #9 is "Exaltation/Religious Experience" by Carla Bley Big Band. Track #13 is "Shepp's Way" by Charlie Haden and Archie Shepp (The Golden Number)

I doubt that any other instrument would produce 80 posts in short order. As I say, a LOT of tenor players out there.

Two more I would name are Lew Tabackin and Andy Sheppard. They are not youngsters (especially Lew), but well worth listening to. Tabackin seems to have been quiet for a long time, and I only know Sheppard's work through Carla Bley. I had a stretch where I really liked Branford, but I have not been much interested in his work for quite some time now.

I don't think I've seen anyone mention Kamasi Washington. An interesting case, as he was a journeyman player for at least a decade before suddenly becoming a "star." I'm not sure what to think about him; there is a hype factor. He is younger than most mentioned on the thread, at least among the names that I recognize.

My point with the questions marks was simply that I have no idea who these players are. I am more knowledgeable about jazz than anyone that I know (in person, that is), yet I draw blanks here. Many jazz players (though they may be worth listening to) must be totally under the radar.

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I'll confess my ignorance and say I've never heard, or heard of, Ingrid Laubock.

Well, Joshua Redman raised made noise (or at least got some serious attention) at a very young age. A couple of decades of experience have turned him (I think), into somebody really worth hearing. I guess we take David Murray for granted. He's been around for ages, but he can be deep in the tradition and be very fiery and distinctive.

Age is a good thing in jazz. Speaking for myself, there's hardly anyone under 50 that I listen to. But a lot of jazz artists remain healthy and active at advanced ages--the late Randy Weston, Roy Haynes, Jimmy Heath, Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter, etc.

So who's young and rather impressive?

The last thing I heard from Billy Harper was on the duet album with Randy Weston, which I felt was sterling work from both men. Ravi has intrigued me a bit, and I have enjoyed the fairly recent DeJohnette record: In Movement.

It seems like ever since Hawk and Lester Young emerged, the tenor sax has held the triumphant position. Certainly we've had oodles of tenor sax players since Trane and Sonny. Sometimes I give up for a while on the tenor. There are just so many players out there. But I would like to know which of today's players are most admired. Bear in mind, I'm not much of an avant garde guy, but if that's what you want to pitch, then do it. At the top for me these days would be Joe Lovano and Chris Potter. But there are others that intrigue me--guys like Mark Turner, Ted Nash, and George Garzone. I'm even starting a renewed interest in Joshua Redman, whom I set aside a long time ago, believing that it was all hoopla. In any case, recommendations please.

A great musician for sure...RIP. I have my share of WSQ albums, and it as always great to hear him there. I've never picked up any of his solo records. He made some great contributions to the late Randy Weston's Volcano Blues.

Thanks, it was very fun to do, and I'm glad that you will be exploring more stuff due to this test. It's also interesting that several of these are in your collection, but you could not ID them. Well, we all own plenty, plenty records--even when they are often not records as we used to think of them. I had pasted in the album covers, yet when I pasted in the whole file they would not appear.

Blindfold 174: Reveal It has been fun, but here is the “reveal.” Four of the thirteen tracks were not identified in any way—those by Styrker/Slagle, Duke Pearson, Jane Ira Bloom, and Tom Harrell. 1. (“Hartland” from Latest Outlook—2007): No one identified this track by Dave Stryker/Steve Slagle. It’s a fine collaboration between the two, who have worked together quite a bit—and sometimes are joined by Joe Lovano. Their stuff is fairly mainstream, but sometimes with an edge—maybe a notch below artists like Lovano and Dave Douglas. 2. (“Cold Irons Bound” from Ships with Tattooed Sails—2007): The trio is Michael Moore, Lindsay Horner, and Michael Vatcher (with Bill Frisell on some cuts, but not this one). Dylan may not seem like a natural for jazz artists, but these guys do his music really well from first track to last. 3. (“Speak Easy” from Open Land—1999): In my opinion, this is one of Abercrombie’s finest albums. He was transitioning from the organ group to the violin group—and this particular track features Kenny Wheeler, who always had a magical connection with John. I find Abercrombie way up there as a guitarist and musician in general—and a good composer too. He’s very distinctive, he put together interesting groups, and none of us should ever forget the fabulous work of Gateway. 4. (“Lifeline” from With These Hands—1956): Randy Weston with Cecil Payne, playing an original on an album of mostly standards. The late Randy Weston is one of my all-time favorite jazz figures, and this shows his superb work even at this early point in time. Payne and Weston had a special connection, and Cecil was on several of the early albums; it’s too bad he didn’t reappear on the records from Weston’s renaissance in the 1990’s. 5.(“After the Rain” from Sweet Honey Bee—1966): I’m surprised no one got this piece by Duke Pearson: pianist, composer, arranger, producer, Blue Note stalwart. I find this to be one of his greatest compositions, and it curiously has the same title as one of Coltrane’s greatest pieces. James Spaulding provides the sterling flute work. 6. (“Sidewalk Meeting”: title track—2001): A rather interesting piece (and album) by multi-reedist Ted Nash, who plays all kinds of saxes and clarinets. The great trombone work is by Wycliffe Gordon. 7. (“Opus 1.5”from Ron Carter's Great Big Band—2011): The legendary Ron Carter, who has done just about everything; and here he is in late career leading his own big band. 8. (“Monk’s Rec Room” from The Red Quartets—1999): One of the few players who performs only on soprano, Jane Ira Bloom, to my mind, is the greatest living soprano saxophonist. She has a great feeling for Monk, whether his tunes or a tribute like this track. 9. (“Baroque Steps” from Paradise—2001): I’m surprised no one got this, but it took me quite a while to catch on to Tom Harrell. He is a very skilled and creative player. As jazz with strings albums go, this one is way up there. 10. (“War Orphans” from Tribute—1974): The highly inventive Paul Motian, with the great Charlie Haden on bass and Sam Brown on guitar. The track comes from one of his earliest dates as a leader. 11. (“Sound Off” from Time is of the Essence—1999): Michael Brecker was identified very quickly—no surprise. Perhaps he devoted too much of his life to being a session player, but he offered up quite a few leader dates playing bona fide jazz with giants of the field. This is my favorite of his records; it includes Pat Metheny on guitar and Larry Goldings on organ. 12. (“Aqua Blue” from Aquarius—2013): This track by Nicole Mitchell was identified, but some pointed out that it sounds a lot like James Newton and Jay Hoggard. Since we never hear from those guys anymore, this is the next best thing. I don’t have a lot of Mitchell’s work, but she seems like a pretty amazing player and composer. 13. (“Simple Things” from Dialogues—1995): Quite interesting date by Jim Hall, although the tracks are generally not duets in the usual sense. Hall has influenced so many guitarists, including Bill Frisell. This may be my favorite track from a great record. I tried including images of the album covers, but it would not work for me.

Last day for the Blindfold test.

Yes, exactly right!

And there is a big band version of "Moon Rays" by Chuck Israels on his all-Silver collection. It's pretty nice.