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JLH are you bringing Dogon AD out on cd? WHen and where can I buy it?

Is it worth seeing?

"An American Family" the local PBS station did a rebroadcast of the original 13 hour or so series. It takes you back to 1970-71 pretty well as if in a time machine. As for the what goes on, it reminds me of what soldiers have said about war ... hours of excruciating boredom punctuated with incredible excitement or something like that.

He also knocks one of my favourites — Miles Davis In Concert — and wasn't as enthused about Pangaea. I found the book more valuable for the interviews. Most of the Columbia era boxed sets have a lot of interviews and extensive details about tracks. The On the Corner box has very little information. Tingen's book helps fill in the blanks. In particular, I found what Reggie Lucas and Mtume had to say to be very interesting. Yes B., I was reading about the album "In Concert" last night and Tingen calls it "the weakest officially released album of his whole pre-1976 electric period". I was also reading about "On the Corner" last night and Tingen calls this album "one of those flawed experiments resulting from taking the road less traveled, where it is far easier to lose one's way than when trotting along the beaten path" and that "the whole is less than the sum of the parts". Interestingly, he likes Laswell's "Panthalassa" Now it's on to "Get Up With It"

On rereading a bit, I wonder if Tingen's comments on "Go Ahead John" are based purely on the version in "Big Fun" - a disc I no longer own having "graduated" to the complete Jack Johnson box which is my personal favorite of the Miles Davis box sets. It is not always clear what Tingen has access to. For example, he often refers to recording sessions as opposed to particular tracks and he had access to the complete Cellar Door recordings before they were available to the public. If then, the "Go Ahead John" on Big fun was particularly bad - he may be right on that one.

I am reading Tingen's book now, and I have to say I am underwhelmed. First of all, as someone who champions this era of Miles's work, it is amazing how many of the recordings he doesn't like. For example, "Go Ahead John" ... a track he thinks is not good. Interesting, I thought that was one of the better tracks. Another example, he refers to the tracks "Nem Un Talvez""Little Church" and "Selim" as "these three ear-grating tracks" and ok while these are hardly representative of the electric period, my god that judgment seems harsh. Whole albums such as "Black Beauty" and "At the Fillmore" are pretty much dismissed. Even a lot of the tracks he praises, he qualifies by saying "it goes on too long"... wish I had a dollar for every time he says that. As for his discussion of zen and holons etc, it is thankfully confined mostly to one chapter so this didn't bother me much. And in that chapter he discusses why Miles didn't choose free jazz (a genre Tingen pretty much dismisses) and concludes because he is basically a blues player - maybe - but one of his key examples of free players- Ornette Coleman - was a pretty mean blues player. He spends way too much time discussing whether Miles's forays into rock and funk were "sellouts" and wisely concludes no, but I say who cares if the music is good and I think most of his readers would have that attitude also. It somewhat undercuts his conclusion by many references to what he calls Miles's desire to reach a broader audience or a blacker audience as if the audience was dictating the music's direction, not Miles. For many that is the definition of sellout. I am not sorry many here suggested it to me, but I don't get the excitement for it.

thanks for posting that. Sad to hear this news. Her contribution to the Matewan soundtrack was particularly effective.

The big story is of course, The Tribe !!!!

Did those of you who offered on Audiogon put your phone number in the ad?

Price reduced to $11.00 delivered to a US address.

It's like when the media talks about Belichick being the greatest NFL coach of all time, they conveniently forget his disastrous tenure in Cleveland.

On Kevin's suggestion, I am putting these up again for a reduced price of $850 for the pair. Guys, don't make me go to strangers.

Thanks Kevin, for your advice. I did offer them here before, but maybe I will again.

Yes, that's a great one. My other favorites by him are Dog Day Afternoon, Fail Safe, The Pawnbroker, and Long Day's Journey Into Night.

Does Audigon allow you to see the sales prices on closed sales? How do you accesss that?

Near Mint condition - US $15.00 Delivered to a US address

Do you have "Out here like this" - my favorite from this group.

Nice roundup Patrick, from one tribe fan to another.

I can't tomorrow, but yes for Thursday at lunch or afternoon rush hour. Can you get PMs yet?

It's yours Dan. My office is in Manhattan - one block from the Brooklyn Bridge - if you want to do an in-person exchange.

Price reduced to $12.00 delivered to a US address.

Near mint condition, a 2004 reissue. $17.00 US to a US address.

T.E. Lawrence (aka "Lawrence of Arabia") "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"

thanks all RT, which Collectables version are you talking about that sounds good, the one that has most of Mountain in the Clouds on it or the Inner Space one?

My copy is a digipak european import, part of the "Atlantic Original Sound" series, as it says on the cover. I love the music, but the sound is thin, shrill and hard to listen to. Was this a poorly recorded session, or do good sounding versions exist? Inquiring minds want to know!!