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Anyone here collect, or purchase some of, this series? I think it was started in 1997, usually at budget prices. Some are now out-of-print. (Try finding the Lukas Foss!) I'd be interested to hear faves/recommendations. An example of the cover art ...

Haven't heard Crumb's percussion work, but Makrokosmos is amazing. Extends the vocabulary (somewhat) of Cowell's "open piano" compositions.

I think Swinging Swede posted this in another thread. Here's the discographical breakdown on the Turrentine: Stanley Turrentine Orchestra Joe Shepley, Marvin Stamm (tp, flh) Garnett Brown, Julian Priester (tb) Al Gibbons (as, fl, bcl) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Joe Farrell (ts, fl) Mario Rivera (bars) McCoy Tyner (p) Bob Cranshaw (b) Ray Lucas (d) Duke Pearson (arr) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 23, 1967 1910 tk.4 Better Luck Next Time 1911 tk.11 Bonita 1912 tk.14 Return Of The Prodigal Son 1913 tk.16 Flying Jumbo (Pres's Delight) 1914 tk.27 Ain't No Mountain High Enough 1915 tk.32 New Time Shuffle Stanley Turrentine Nonet Blue Mitchell (tp) Garnett Brown (tb) James Spaulding (as, fl) Stanley Turrentine (ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Duke Pearson (org, arr) Bob Cranshaw (b) Ray Lucas (d) Richard Landrum (cga, bgo, tamb) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, July 28, 1967 1928 tk.3 The Look Of Love 1929 tk.14 You Want Me To Stop Loving You 1930 tk.18 Dr. Feelgood 1930 tk.21 Dr. Feelgood (alt.) 1931 tk.34 Up, Up And Away 1932 tk.36 Georgie Girl 1933 tk.39 A Foggy Day Looks like we were spared (?) the take of "Georgie Girl."

Izenzon with Perry Robinson, 1970. From Lee Santa's website.

Thanks for that link Niko. I hadn't heard/read anything about that comp until now. Looks like one to pick up. Anyone heard the Bob Zieff Orchestra in Pennsylvania?

Thanks for posting. Has anyone here heard Dick Wetmore's Bethlehem album (mentioned in the Chambers piece) that contains Zieff compositions? I'm guessing it hasn't been reissued on compact disc, but maybe in Japan? Would love to hear it.

Anyone have the Japanese edition? It's still floating around from online vendors. I'd upgrade if the sonics were considerably better than the French version.

With some trepidation, I'm bumping this thread up. I will confess I don't "get" Mahler yet. This doesn't mean I haven't liked what I've heard, it's just that his music hasn't clicked in that ahhhh! way yet. But I'm not giving up. If you had to recommend a single disc of any of his symphonies for a newbie, what would you choose? Any words on how/where to gain access to this composer's world would be interesting too.

Well, I ended up purchasing the Bruno Walter Brahms symphony cycle. At $17 for three discs, I couldn't resist. Now I'll be able to do some A/B-ing with the Bernstein. I have a feeling it won't be the last Brahms cycle I purchase. Something about those particular symphonies is really under my skin these days. Maybe I'll even try the Toscanini at some point ...

Another PM! (May have sent it twice on accident.)

Probably — I think it might have been created before the classical forum was around. Either way, keep the recs coming!

Any particular reason? I ask because, while I haven't heard it, I've read some good things about that recording. I only have Bernstein doing Brahms' symphonies. I like them, but have nothing to compare them to.

Would like to hear more thoughts on the symphonies. Klemperer and Alsop (whose early conducting career included working in this small city for a couple of years!) have been mentioned. Any thoughts on: • Solti • Böhm • Karajan • Bernstein (did it 3 X, I think) • Abbado • contemporary readings? • others I'm missing I'm still out of my league as far as symphonies are concerned, and when I read reviews on Brahms' symphonies, they often are along the lines of: "If you have the Klemp, look no further." I've never heard his versions, but would like too. Amazon has them at full price ($35) — anyone know where they could be found cheaper?

Listening to Sketch right now. I like it quite a bit. Schnitter sounds like late-period Hank Mobley trying to play like early-period Ornette Coleman — after listening to Masada (while drinking root beer). And I don't mean those reference points as a put-down. James Zollar, the trumpet player, is pretty good too. The Cherry influence is there, but not too heavy. Overall, a . Well-recorded as well.

The Ivan Lendl of labels!

BIS is a great label. So is Mode. Between the Lines, in the early days, was spectacular. Thank God Koglmann got out most of the Dixon/Lacy sides when he did. (The Coe/Kellaway too.) I admire that Uehlinger's recording emerging artists, even if the fan base for Hat seems to generally want reissues (only). It seems to me that if, as clem stated/alluded to, he could put together some type of limited box sets for just a few Hat artists that sell well, it would satisfy fans and perhaps generate more income for newer projects. But, I'm no record producer, and I'm sure it's all easier said than done.

Don't want to be too negative, but Nathan Davis, especially on soprano, usually bores me. I had the albums that are listed above, but couldn't hear enough that sounded original to me, and parted ways. I do like Davis's Rules of Freedom, however. I've never really checked out Lol Coxhill's soprano playing, but know that I should. Any recs as to where to start? ========== An aside that some here already know — Rex Stewart "named" Lacy. Born Steven Lackritz, Stewart would call out "Lacy" when the latter was in Stewart's band. Something to do with pronunciation or spelling, and so Stewart shortened it.

Do those sessions overlap with the Whitey Mitchell sessions? (From memory, I think half the Mitchell "sessions" were actually led by Sutton.) At any rate, those are worth hearing, even if one's not particularly a Lacy fan. What blows me away is how (in less than a year?) Lacy went from this music to Cecil Taylor's group without even as much as a hiccup.

Gayle is a lot of fun live (I've only heard him once in person), especially when he sticks to the tenor. I can live without the piano, viola, and clown nose, but it seems to work for others. Somehow the live energy just doesn't make it into the recordings (at least for me). The poster (on telephone poles) that advertised his gig had a picture of him and a quote: "I will blow you through the wall." Always struck me as an unintended double entendre.

Happy 26th, kid.

Speculation, but it seems in general that Hat reissues appear about 18-24 months after they're announced. The Ayler release (the catalog #) has appeared on the back of other Hat issues for a while now. I'm curious — does anyone here regularly purchase from the hatNOW series? Someone must (maybe people on a 20th Century classical forum?), as the series seems full of life. I've never purchased a title from that series, but have been thinking about it lately. Also — reissues of hatOLOGY titles? I guess they're not limited editions.

Just exploring the Maggini's output on Naxos — all sorts of composers I've never heard of come flying into the radar. Bax, Bliss, Davies, Quincy Porter, and more. (Maybe the Porter recordings are by another quartet. Can't remember at the moment.) Anyone here heard Ben Johnston's string quartets? I've heard parts of his Microtonal Piano and liked the sounds mucho. Thanks to this thread, four Naxos discs of string quartets are on their way to my doorstep: • Coates • Szymanowski • Rawsthorne • Janacek Tower.com actually stocks a lot of Naxos titles — most under $7. An affordable way to explore the field. (Never got to the Naxos thread here. I'll have to dig it up.) Also picked up a disc by the Stanford String Quartet performing Bridge, Milhaud, and Faure. Haven't spun it yet. I'm not getting/hearing Cage and Feldman yet, but Conlon Nancarrow's work resonates with me right away.

Very true. (Though it's also fun to check in on others' instincts!) Clem, just got done listening to some Holmboe sound samples. Very fine stuff. Goes way up on the list. I might regret starting this thread ... $ :rsmile: $

It's a shame that label folded. The Xenakis chamber music disk is essential: Iannis Xenakis 1: Musique de chamber 1955-1990 - Auvidis Montaigne 782005 (1992) (Claude Helffer - piano, Arditti String Quartet) Wow, didn't know that. I got most of my copies from CDUniverse about three years ago. Tower still carries some at around $11.99. The only one I could never find was the Arditti's version of the Schoenberg quartets. (I also could never find Arditti's Scelsi, but a generous board member helped me out.) A very cool reissue program/label. Actually, last I checked, CDUniverse had the super-rare From U.S.A disc for under $10!

I read that thread too, but now the Milhaud box set on Naive is out-of-print (or at least not for sale new or used at Amazon). I was getting all excited about hearing it! I'll unearth a copy somewhere/some time. Will add Coates and Bridge to the list. The "everyone should have" idea I think is more fetishism than anything, but sometimes it helps to discover new voices. It's odd how we discover certain composers in our own way and time. Example: I've barely heard a note of Dvorak's chamber works, but was exposed to Penderecki's chamber works at a fairly young age (14), and now the latter feels like a household name.