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Yeah, I read through that thread (a good one), and I guess this thread is somewhat similar in its query. Actually, because of that thread, I've been checking out sound samples of Dvorak, Krenek, Smetana, et al. In fact, I have a Dvorak box set in my cart right now at Amazon. But then there's the Villa-Lobos box set ... My ears lean toward "mayhem" as well. Through the Naive/Montaigne label, I've heard work for strings by Nono, Maderna, Xenakis, Rihm, Kagel, Feldman, and Ohana — all composers who serve up moments of mayhem (or minimalism with Feldman), but I suppose, with this thread, I was trying to ask the "everyone should have in their classical collection" type of question, only with the 20th century brackets.

I was reading a number of reviews on Amazon yesterday (some of the reviews for classical discs are exceptionally well-written), when I came across a review (responding to the review before it) that put forth a list of the "most important" string quartet cycles composed in the 20th century. A subjective argument to be sure, but it got me wondering. Anyway, here's what the reviewer listed: • Bartok • Shostakovich • Schoenberg • Carter • Martinu • Villa-Lobos • Milhaud • Britten • Hindemith I'm not even familiar with the music of Bohuslav Martinu, but the list made me want to check his work out. I know that "most important" is an incredibly ambiguous term, but — accepting the subjectivity of it all — how would you make a similar list? Let's try to give some criteria. How about: • string quartet cycles (as opposed to chamber works with strings) • meriting historical significance/cultural permanence either inside or outside the "cannon" of string quartet cycles I'm interested in reading what you have to say — not so much for "debate" but rather because I love string quartets and am always on the lookout for composers I've never been exposed to. If you could list what representative ensemble/recording you like, that would be great too. Thanks for the input!

Americans are saying, "What's the thirteenth month?"

I usually don't care for iTunes, but they have the Lateef/Ford album. I've only listened to part of it so far, but it's nice in a wooly way. By the way, for those that do eMusic, all the Ford Candids are there. I forgot I had some Ford with Ran Blake — the Barbara Monk tribute (I'm spacing on the title). Very nice album.

Thanks for the recs guys. Listening to sound samples, I'd say the Denon set (with the Something Else-type cover) is what I'll look for first.

Any fans? What albums? Moore was on a Blakey tribute called Message from the early 90's. That's where I first heard him. Liked his sound and articulation. Haven't heard him on anything else.

That's a good idea. Blakey seems to sell well (as opposed to, say, Elvin Jones). Maybe a 70's Roulette Select? Is there enough material? Or maybe a two-fer Single is the way to go. There's also this one (haven't heard it):

Yeah.......that's the Roulette! Smok-IN!! Uh-huh, rub it in.

Those are cool photos! I was trying to attach a jpeg of Ford's Shorter Ideas, and then noticed you'd posted in the meantime. (The jpeg file was too large to attach. )

Maybe he just misplaced his very cool dinner jacket.

And the Hubbard ...

And the Bu record mentioned above ...

Argh! Now I really want to hear these ... Another Muse date (Invitation) is a quartet setting with Mickey Tucker on piano. I've just been getting into Tucker's Xanadu sessions, so I'm guessing that's a record I'd like. Schnitter's also on a live 1980 Freddie Hubbard session on Pablo. I wish eMusic carried the Muse (and Cobblestone et al.) label, even if they were vinyl rips.

I just ordered Sketch, and was curious about Schnitter's Muse recordings. Is the only way to hear them to find the original vinyl? As you can tell, I haven't heard any of them — which do you like/recommend? Is Blakey's Heat Wave (with Schnitter) worth plunking down the import price $ to hear? What other Blakey sides feature Schnitter?

Is Big Jim's Tango out-of-print? Amazon has used copies starting at $50. If anyone knows where I can locate an affordable copy, please PM!

Listening to this one before 6 a.m. — almost as good as coffee. I like Lovano's 52nd Street Themes, but I think I like this one even more. Has Brad Leali on it! Now I'm going to bump the other Wallace thread up.

The only Biber I've heard is Manze's, and while I like it allright, I'm not fully sold. Manze's Tartini on the other hand — I think it's pretty hot. Manze's Pandolfi: impassive. Then hot again with Uccelini. I sound like Paris Hilton.

Has anyone heard this new reissue? Bards

Thanks for the link Chas. Hadn't read that article. A friend of mine used to live on Ocean in Venice.

It could very well be that I'm so used to the 20-bit K2 masters that the DSD remasters just sound "different," and I'm not used to them yet. I'm sure my ears will adjust a little, but the DSD's that I have that were originally on Contemporary seem (to me) to not have that great DuNann sound, which I thought would flourish in the DSD setting. I told myself a while ago not to go (again) down the "sound junkie" road, and here I am strolling along — and my system's probably not sensitive enough to really reveal some of the finer subtleties ...

This probably has already been posted somewhere here, but it's worth posting again: Lee Santa's Photography Some very cool photos of Sun Ra, Ornette, Pharoah, and others.

Any love for John Ogdon's take on Scriabin? I haven't heard it.

Joe? Or the holiday. We're only ten months away you know.

Up for Christmas.

A good documentary for sure. I think Rollins' compulsive strolling on the bandstand accounts for some of Cranshaw's off-tempo-ness. I'm not sure how well the musicians could actually hear each other. One way the doc enhances the actual performance is that one gets to "see" what circular breathing looks like. I understand how circular breathing works physically, but I was never able to even come close to doing it. A side note: "jazz" and working out don't initially seem to go together, but the track "G-Man" is almost perfect for the (home) gym.