Brad

It's been released on Roulette but as with all Roulette cds, it's very hard to find. Your best bet is to keep an eye on Ebay.

Soul Stream captured the essence of that prior BNBB thread in a nutshell. There was much debate about what or what we could not read into it. I don't recall if there was ever a general consensus about it. My feeling was that it didn't present a good picture of Hank's state of health at the time and in about 7 years he would be dead.

I'd have to agree with Rooster on this one. Music is always being reinterpreted, especially in jazz. In this case, we may not care for the results but the idea is an old and established one.

B3-er and Use, isn't it time to close all Deep related threads. They just seem to be a general waste of time.

Regarding the observation that Dana made, there is a certain absoluteness to the book, I'll agree. By the time I got to the end of the book, I was wondering if, for example, Bud's common law wife, Buttercup, was as completely bad as he depicts it. From what I've been able to read so far, she doesn't sound like any angel. But I didn't get the idea that everything Bud did FP agreed with. What came across was a person trying to help his jazz idol live as much a normal life as he possibly could. He probably prolonged his life by his help. I also think his strong observations come from someone who was constantly around Bud for several years. His constant presence with Bud helps make this book so gripping. He witnessed the ups and downs that someone with mental illness (or possibly epilepsy) suffered.

Do you have any plans to come east, like to New York?

To further elaborate on what Chris said about Danny's accomplishments, I've picked up Blues for Philly Joe and the Glass Enclosure and they are excellent, top notch swinging music. Really incredible music. Here's the AMG review of Blues for Philly Joe: Drummer Danny D'Imperio's fourth album as a leader is similar to his first three: high-quality hard bop with the emphasis on lesser-known tunes. Using a talented septet (with trumpeter Greg Gisbert, altoist Gary Pribek, tenor saxophonist Ralph Lalama, the great bop pianist Hod O'Brien, guitarist Steve Brown, and bassist Dave Shapiro), D'Imperio revives such songs as Duke Pearson's "Tribute to Brownie," Curtis Fuller's "Time Off," and Benny Harris' "Reets and I." Hard bop fans will definitely want all of D'Imperio's well-conceived recordings, including this one. The Glass Enclosure Review: In his series of releases for V.S.O.P., drummer Danny D'Imperio has successfully kept hard bop not only alive, but creative and fresh. This CD has one of his finest recordings. The arrangements are quite inventive; the 11 rarely recorded songs are superior (including Quincy Jones' "Jessica's Day," Freddie Redd's "Thespian" and Lee Morgan's "Need I"), and the musicians (in settings up to a ten-piece) sound quite inspired. Their rendition of Bud Powell's complex "Glass Enclosure" is quite definitive. Among the star soloists are trumpeter Greg Gisbert, altoist Gary Pribek, Ralph Lalama on tenor and pianist Hod O'Brien. A high-quality and frequently exciting CD that rewards repeated listenings.

I think that was the whole purpose and it's a good exercise in democracy (please no smirking) to gauge the feeling of the community.

What we do without you, Weiz --, I mean Red Me--, I mean Dr. Freud Mark, In view of some of the recent changes with that forum, it seemed like time for taking the pulse of this community once again. I don't remember if one had ever been taken so I thought I'd do it. Obviously, the members feel otherwise. That's democracy in action. Are we clear now?

Jim, That makes two of us. My apologies for over reacting as well. You have enough to worry about without the ravings of another madman

I think the post is self explanatory, but to help you here, my concern is should a thread be deleted because the moderators deem it silly. As long as it doesn't run afoul of the rules that Jim has posted, then it shouldn't be closed. That, in a nutshell, is it.

Is it time for a middle school english teacher to step forward (realizing that I might be called STUPID by the perspicacious one)?

Why do I feel there's no "love" lost between Deep and Patricia ?

That's right Brad. The burden is heavy on the shoulders of he/she who wields the power. Solomon had it easy, when all he had to do was threaten to cut a baby in half. It's not an enviable job but one which he ought to be given very high marks for .

I believe he's saying that since the rule was incorrectly stated, anything that happened to him while it was in effect was invalid and any warning he received should be rescinded so that he's back at 0% again, starting now.

Hold on a goddamned minute! Whether or not there should be a political forum is an important issue. Obviously I bow to the will of the majority. But you've recognized that it's an issue. Why otherwise would you have first, segregated it from most of the discussion that goes on here, and secondly, tell members that you could use an ignore function. In addition, you think the premise of the thread silly so you're going to close it for that reason? Do we have censorship here, just because you deem it silly? Or are you going to give me the Tom Evered answer that "it's our board and we can do we want." It is but that belies the point. There's plenty of silly threads that go on this Board and I don't see them being closed. By starting this have I offended anybody? As far as I know I haven't maligned a particular group of people like was done recently. And I haven't called anybody names or insulted them, even though just the other day, somebody asked if I was a narrow mined bigot because I didn't like somebody they didn't like. It's not actually whether or not there should be a political forum that's got me steamed but the fact that you think you should close it because you think it's silly. I'm not usually quick to anger but this has

I thought I'd throw this up for discussion since several people have asked for the ignore function on the political forum. My vote: get rid of it, although I'm probably in the minority.

Barak couldn't have said it better. We are sorely in lack of visionaries today.

As one of the biggest critics on the political board (although I have visited it ocassionaly, but very very ocasssionally), I'm tempted to put my name on the list but I prefer to have the option to go there and self censor myself, unless you're going to get rid of the whole thing, which I wouldn't object to either.

Can't we all just get along

There are actually considered to be 5 volumes: The Amazing Bud Powell (Volumes 1 and 2), Bud! (Volume 3), Time Waits (Volume 4) and The Scene Changes (Volume 5). I've recently listened to all except Time Waits. The material I've read lately rates Time Waits as not his best. I like all that I've heard recently so it's hard for me to pick out one as better than the other. Like Lon, I've started to explore some of his post 1958 European work and from what I've heard so far, which isn't, too be hones, all that much, it's different. The ideas don't seem to come tumbling out as quickly and I don't hear the same speed. Like I said, I'm just starting to listen to the European material so I may be wrong. Others may wish to comment on this. BTW, it's Un Poco Loco.

It's really hard to say more about a record of this type than has been said by commenators over the years but I'll give it a shot. Obviously, an excellent album alternating between shining emotions and brooding dark thoughts. Most of what we think about this album is somewhat colored by what happened to Bud. Autumn in New York is classic but even in the intro, it seems dark but the curtain seems to lift a bit after that. It's hypnotic to listen to. Equally different is Polka Dots and Moonbeams, done at a measured tempo, brooding in itself, obviously very different than the way a Red Garland does it. Generally, this is a happy tune, but in Bud's hands, it comes out quite differently. Glass Enclosure is very disturbing; it seems to show his many moods. From dark to light to dark. It's pretty fascinating, to say the least. Of different mood and classics are Reets and I, I Want to Be Happy (amateur psychologists probably had a field day with this) and I've Got You Under My Skin. A very compelling album and to me far different than Volume 1.

Kenny Drew, for the reasons Dan mentioned. Kenny and Sonny, two of my favorite pianists.

Unless you happen to have the JRVGs of Elmo Hope's BN sessions, you don't wait to wait for this one, plus put together, the JRVGs don't have as much music as the original US version. The same can also be said for the Wynton Kelly cd, Piano Interpretations.

I'm not really interested in prolonging this too much more, except to say that what jazz has been an evolving concept for over a century. Obviously, what Jelly Roll played is different than what Bird played and different from Bird to electric Miles. Could in the evolving concept of jazz, Cassandra Wilson be placed in there? Sure, I agree with you there. Jazz has always had a big tent of inclusion to it. I don't really believe you can place her in the same pantheon of Billie or Ella, but we have our own opinions about that. I believe my original point was that it wasn't jazz or didn't sound like it to me. Obviously, you disagree and are a big fan of hers, which I think is great. I didn't care for the performance. I'm sure you would have liked it. You have your views and I have mine. So we'll leave it at that and move on.