Brad

I have the TKCZ-9005 edition and it's put out by Venus Records and it's at the Lighthouse. Don't know if that answers your query.

Just to be clear, I don't believe I ever said I was speaking about you nor do I need you to speculate as to whether or not I would feel ill will towards anybody else. I think I can do that fine myself. All I said is, in principal, that I don't think political forums are a good idea and I stand by what I said. I know that I'm in the minority, most likely, and so be it. Won't be the first and probably not the last. Not that this gives me any superior knowledge or insight but I've lived overseas and witnessed a revolution (Brasil, in 1964) and lived through a dictatorship (Spain), seen a country that I lived in (Uruguay) torn apart, and also studied the Spanish Civil War somewhat extensively so I know how divisive politics is and can be. That's where my viewpoint comes from but that is obviously just me.

I don't agree with you on this one. If you look at every other forum on this board, it's music related. What does a politics forum have to do with jazz. I think that we can see that politics is quite divisive and usually tends to factionalize and not unite. I believe we come here to get away from the outside world and indulge in our hobby. Hobbies are a way to leave the outside world behind and get away. That being the case, why do we want to let that world intrude when we're trying to get away from it. I don't see the point.

I hope we all know what we're talking about here. In the AMG universe, the stars are compared against the artist's other output, not against other artists, although most of probably do use it in that manner. Secondly, three stars means that they're worthwhile but contain some flaws. Four stars, the release is very good, easily recommended and a worthy addition to one jazz's collection. There it is although I don't agree with the assessment for Street of Dreams. Similarly, Talking About rates only 3 as well and I think they're very good and a "worthy" addition to my Grant Green cds.

Two points here. This is a great board and while I post over at AAJ, I only have so much time and I always look at this one first. Perhaps something is missing over there. I also happen to like this software more. I just like the way this Board looks. I think this Board has a great life force or whatever (groping for the right words) going. Other point, this latest controversy with Jimmy Gee just reinforces my long held belief that a political forum has no place on a jazz board and can only lead to acrimony. I barely look at it. I've beaten this point like a drum here sometimes and at the old BNBB but obviously I'm in the minority.

Has anybody listened to the Great Summit. This is an incredible album and was the only meeting between Louis and Duke. It's under Louis' name but the songs are all from Duke's catalogue. And there are some great performances here: Duke's Place, Drop Me Off in Harlem, In a Mellow Tone, Just Squeeze Me. Louis' rendition of Solitude I found particularly heart felt. These guys are not going through the motions, trust me. The music sounds incredibly fresh as if it's almost the first time it was recorded. I just can't get enough of this album. Although Pops and Duke are obviously good on this, I found Barney Bigard and Trummy Young's performances on it to be the eye opener's. Do you know who produced the reissue and did the rematstering? Michael C. and Ron McMasters. The sound is very, very good, like you're right there. It's a very good remastering in my book.

I don't know much about Jamal's music. Would you all recommend what's in Jim's post?

RT, where'd you come up with those last few. Priceless. Laugh out loud funny

Clitically speaking, there are some very good imags here

Regarding the sound, Proper doesn't have access to the masters whereas obviously Blue Note/EMI does. That will be the big difference there.

That's great to hear about this album. I had always kind of shied away from it because of Up, Up and Away and hadn't bothered to explore the rest of the record. I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

Well, it's just like me to come along after the horses left the barn but since the early postings I hadn't bothered to look at this tread until Tod alerted it to me yesterday. What an incredible bunch of postings. Hats off to B-3er and Use3d and their father and to all those who stood up. While reading the whole thread, I was actually getting a little nervous about this site being affected. Great responses by Neon. And thank god for this site. Someone at some point wondered if Musicidiot was Tom. That thought passed through my mind also, albeit quickly. Musicboy made Berigan look positively saintly. Brad

Don't hold your breath!

I'm not the seller and this 4 CD set on Keynote from Hawk is hard to find. Plus the opening bid doesn't look bad either. I think I paid $60 for my copy.

I don't have a lot of Hodges but there's a new Proper box set out which I plan on picking up. So you may want to take a flier on that one. Also, Side by Side under Duke Ellington's name although it's really a Johnny Hodges cd is stupendous. It's actually 2 sessions. Duke anchors the piano chair on one 1 session and Billy Strayhorn the other. I think it's fabulous.

With those five selections, to me it comes down to two: Sonny Stitt or J.J. I'd never listened to Sonny that much before I picked up this box. I enjoyed every second of it and was never bored. The quality and the breadth is incredible. I became a devoted fan. You have to listen to this box to appreciate how incredible a musician he was. My favorite Mosaic, hands down. As a result of this Mosaic, I picked up almost any Sonny in cd I could find. Thank you, Mosaic. JJ? I discovered Bobby Jaspar as a result and you'll love flute after this. This is an amazing Mosaic. Trombone is an instrument that I find fascinating, all thanks to this Mosaic. It's a tough choice but I'd say go for the J.J. It's likely to go oop before Sonny. I don't have the Jones so I can't comment. Of the other two, Turrentine is the next best choice. Good stuff but not in the class of the other 2. I've listened to some of the Hodges lately and while I like it, I'd still choose between the Stitt and the J.J.

I bought that Open Door material awhile ago and found it very hard to listen to. It seemed even worse to me than the Benedetti Mosaic, which I found listenable and pretty enjoyable. I have the Philology series in toto and there is some great stuff on there. I didn't find the sound that bad. Probably my favorite live session that comes to mind is the material from the Finale Club in LA which is on Volume 18 (848). Of the Jay McShann period, there's that Early Bird although I think Spotlite put that out and has the McShann Orchestra from 1940 in Wichita, Kansas and in 1943 from NY plus 1 cut (but it's Cherokee!) from Clark Monroe's in 1941. There's also another cd from Decca (Grp) called Blues from Kansas City. That one shouldn't be too hard to get. A lot of this features an altoist, now largely unknown named John Jackson, who sounded a lot like Bird. In fact some of the credits from this period sometimes say Charlie Parker or John Jackson, that's how close they sounded.

I'm not the seller but for those who don't have this Sonny Stitt CD, it's a great cd. I believe this is Volume 1. Sonny plays alto, tenor and bari on this one.

It should be great. I'd pay $70 for sure. How often do you get to see one of the legends?

I voted for Roy but there are many worthwhile candidates there. Buck is tremendous. And, unfortunately, I don't know everybody on the list and I probably should have voted for Bix, he was so influential, but there it is.

When it comes to Bird, sonic purity shouldn't be the criteria. You're going to find stuff with good sound but not like you'd hear from Rudy. The Verve recordings should be good however and since Verve sometime will be releasing the master takes of what's on the Bird box, I'm sure the sound will probably be somewhat better. Somebody once said that when it comes to sound or the lack of great sound, the best filter for removing the bad sound is your ears. Getting back to the original question, no one has mentioned his JATP work. There's some great Bird in that set. I'd recommend the whole set but if you just want Bird material, it's on the Verve box. Other material I'd recommend is Charlie Parker and the Stars of Modern Jazz at Carnegie Hall, Christmas 1949 (Jass Records 16), Charlie Parker - An Evening at Home with the Bird - Savoy MG 12152 (SV-0154) and Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie - Diz ‘n Bird at Carnegie Hall - Roost (CDP 7243 8 57061 2 7).

Made the obvious choice and voted for Green. Guys I really like though are Herb Ellis and Tal Farlow. One guy I could just never get into and doesn't do anything for me is Wes Montgomery. Just doesn't have Grant's soul, IMHO. But that's just me.

A person you could have included but is often overlooked is Bill Harris. Way underrated. His work with Flip is very good and the first cd High Note put out with him and Charlie Ventura is also good (the second, not as good).

Understanding that you can't pick everybody, I still would have included Wyton Kelly, definitely a contemporary of all those people. Horace is the man for me. He is the trail blazer after Bud. Everyone else is second in my book. Can't believe he got so few votes.

I tried to vote for Shirley (messed it up somehow, though). She really cooked. But so did a lot of the others. Very hard list to choose from. You could vote for Jimmy Smith, the groundbreaker and not lose any sleep over it. John Patton, Larry Young come next for me. The albums Baby Face made for BN are tops. His Argo albums not as good.