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Did Prestige put out some Henderson Varsity on this one? https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Big-Bands1933/release/6861713

That's a seriously great record!

I thought the standards bight be a good gateway. His originals tend to have structural and harmonic quirks. Nothing at all "outside", just not "typical" structures. Also, this was his last record (I think?), so his tone is perhaps not as "full blown" as it had been. But definitely traceable back to Dex in basic terms. Here's a good example of what he was up to in the 80s. and the 60s, with Booker Ervin:

Bill Barron might not be for you. His tone is more out of Dexter, and he's definitely got a bit of quirk about him.

If we have cool girls who are into Bill Barron, I say we already have what we want as well as what we need.

Hold on to that spider.

Why the tears?

Bill Barron is in no way like Tyrone Washington. He's more like, you know, when Joe pushes the harmony, that's Bill Barron's de facto starting point. He's not a "bluesy" player at all, at least not overtly, but he always swings, and he always has a connection to his underlying structures. His original structure, especially the later ones, are pretty non-song form, but still, structures, repetitive cycles, you can hear where you are at all times. Two things to consider also - he used his brother all the way to the end, and you know that Kenny Barron ain't gonna do no halfass anything, right? also, if you're not one to really listen harmonically, his stuff might not sound all that "different". Rhythmically, he swings. If you're looking for a somewhat easy in to his world, just to see, this will likely be the one for you:

Example - I've got some of the non-Bird Dial stuff on some scrub label, Hall Of Fame, I think it is. LP. It could be worse than that, but I don't think it will be. It might be a different type of off, but it's on CD now, and all that. yeah, this thing. It'll do if it has to, but surely it doesn't have to.

I've got the Bird stuff out the ass. the other stuff, some, but not so much. And what I do have is on marginal labels that did not even try cleaning anything up. So I'm willing to see how the mastering works in order to hear the music, because if it's not perfect now, it's never been perfect.

how about more of The Third Wave? George Duke meets Singing Sisters meets Sunshine Pop!

yeah, Jackie-ing got me big time too. It was on the Riverside Greatest Hits album I cited earlier. Other than the Mulligan track, that was one strong LP for a 15 year old! Rollins, Trane, Ernie Henry, Max, The best cut of the Town Hall set...talk about whetting an appetite, that one did it!

Maybe, but I'd prefer to roll those dice on Michael.

I hope he doesn't entirely relinquish the future selection of the new sets to Wenzel.

Is it just me, or does it sound like he starts hearing "Pent-Up House" and then goes about working his way out of an exact quote? If that's what really was going on (and we'll never know for sure, about this or any other such seemingly "out of nowhere" moments, hell maybe KD himself wouldn't have remembered it, so quickly did it come and go), but yeah, it sure sounds like he was being thoughtful one way and then all of a sudden this other thing pops up and he's like, ok, let me deal with this so I can get back to my original plan. He could have flubbed it entirely, or he could have just bitten the hook and let it go on, he only had like, what, 16 more bars to play by the time it would have been over? Half a chorus. But he did neither, he considered the moment, processed the moment with honesty, and didn't get thrown off by the surprise, all in real time and with the tape rolling. That's an improviser!

I can answer the Jimmy Jones question - yes. Jimmy Jones was around a long time in a lot of ways. Check him out, if you haven't already! As for singers bringing their own arrangements - yes, usually. Definitely at this level anyway. Guys writing a "show" for a singer were a standard source of income for freelance arrangers, and I'd be shocked if Sarah didn't have the financial backing to have a book for big band, mid-size band, and of course, combo. There were any number of possible writers for this, not the least of whom would be Jimmy Jones. Also want to give props to Al McKibbon on the Shearing set. He gets one solo and it is obvious that he has one of those huuuuuge old schol sounds, wonderful to hear that, even in this less-than-hi-fi recording, absolutely wonderful.

Set arrived today, lovingly and carefully packaged. The love and care will most certainly returned to the set by its recipient, I guarantee! I have bought from David once or twice before, and this seals the deal for me - he is a person with whom you can do business with absolute confidence.

Good to hear Pee Wee speaking on behalf of the Fire Marshal and in favor of obeying the law. Why do I not think that he demonstrated the same attention to good citizenship back home? And oh yes, that raises another question - who subbed for Pee Wee when the legendary half a motherfucker had a road gig?

Quincy Jones produced this, right?

So...is this cat still got his hands in Mosaic? Please tell me that he does, please. that dude has really good hair these days, btw. Back in the day, it confused me, it seemed all helmet-y. Now it looks just right. He must have good old-hair genes. Would it be inappropriate to inquire as to his ancestral heritage? I mean, to be that old with hair like that...credit should be given to whatever gene pool he has that has gifted him with this! His he any relation to Jackie and/or Nadia Cuscuna?

Do you notice the jukebox mastering on the 45s? I love it when that happens.

Thank you for your service!

Aren't you glad you have Dial? Don't you wish everybody did?

I looked at the discography again and decided that there's enough stuff I don't have that I want to have that I ordered. Alternates and false starts don't bother me, that's the way my life is metaphorically, get a good take eventually, but sometimes shit happens, usally happens. But it's fun along the way! I'm also curious about the controversial remastering. All of the Dial stuff I have always sounds worn. So let's see how this goes, what with the crystal clear sound and swooshy cymbals. With the same considerations, let it be noted that I did not order the Savoy set. I carpe diemed all over the LPs back in the mid-late 70s and later to the thereabouts. Dial never got that easy a treatment here in the US. apparently Spotlite in the UK did all this stuff well, but outside of the Bird stuff, I never saw them all over the place like I did the Savoy. Not just the jazz, but the R&B sets too. They got that stuff out!

Personally, no, I see it as one more tragedy of human failing. But in terms of shifting the culture, I think it matters. We can't expect to evolve the expected behavior unless/until the consequences are as expected as possible. This does not run contrary to the notion of due process, I would hope. But yeah, we got to get all the winks and excuses out of the very notion of sexually predatory behavior, and for that to happen, Cosby can do his time and....other things can happen as well, I'll leave it at that.