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Yeah, the whole Skip/Rick dichotomy is a trip, especially when both were just "local" guys. Skip was actually not a total douche then, but Rick was never anything but great. They've since gone off to be more of what they origianlly were, which is I guess how life works unless a real soulfuck comes along. My wife was in Chicago last year for an overnight business trip and they went to Frontera on a Tuesday nioght. She called me back after the meal and was quite impressed, and LTB is pretty finicky when it comes to that cuisine. Plus, she's a vegetarian, and they took a special order from/for her with nothing but aplomb and graciousness. So, yeah, fuck Skip Bayless.

The first heavy metal band! I saw this when it was first broadcast, and it made a huge impression on me - I had to find the single. Same here...with a Mose Allison cover on the flipside! Mighta made Mose some money, if the accounting was true.

Rick is not treating Chicago well?

I know it's all relative, but Nancy Wilson is not somebody I've ever found to be "skinny" in any way... But Cannonball, yeah, was he EVER that thin, really?

When I say "source material", I mean literally, as in they ripped it direct and then complied and packaged "as is" with no attempt to hide or clean up anything.

You might be getting a glimpse at what their source material was.

Where's the rest of me?

What, of the good old days when you wore white shoes with a dark suit and turned a woman into a marionette?

I got to know him through those Ralph Peterson BN records, which I wanted to like a lot more than I actually could.

I'm not much for Don Byron's music in general, but this exchange makes as much sense to me as anything I could imagine: So, yeah, Don Byron, keep on keepin' on. I probably won't be paying that much attention, but others will, and hopefully to this part of it as well.

For sure...summer is only ONE season...

Now, in what sense is "representative" meant, well...who knows? Not my thread. But representative of the 1960s? Ornette Coleman? Of course! And representative of Ornette Coleman? I would not say that the Blue Note albums are not, just as I would not say that Verve Bird is not representative of where Bird was at that time. Overall, I think it was very representative of where Bird was at that time, which was becoming Post-Bird Bird, just as the BN albums find Ornette becoming Post-Ornette Ornette (and that's said with a less than 50% mischievousness, because once you smash the atom, then what? You either die right away or keep just going.until you do).

Ornette had five LPs released on Blue Note in the 1960s, between 1965 & 1968. How many did he release on Atlantic during the same decade? Not recorded, but released. I count five as well, between 1960 & 1962. For sheer Ultimate Importance, yeah, nothing beats the Atlantics. But you still got five Ornette Coleman albums released on Blue Note in the 1960s, and I would not argue to the contrary if somebody tried to make the point that those five were a little more in line with the music he's made since than were the Atlantics.

Perhaps, but I still think of them as "Blue Note" anyway, since that's what they've always been and still remain. Plus, Ornette signed a deal with them anyway (wasn't the Town Hall thing supposed to be on BN?) that resulted in some more non-insignificant music. So if we're talking "60s Blue Note" as opposed to "Alfred Lion Blue Note", then I stand by my acall that Ornette was a significant Blue Note altoist of the 1960s, especially since he didn't really show any...enthusiasm for recording commercially once he left Atlantic. He actually signed a contract with Blue Note, a not-insignificant gesture in and of itself!

Meanwhile, back in the States...

I was just thinking of who all made "significant statements" on Blue Noite in the 1960s, nothing more. Ornette certainly did (and with some music that was not-exactly Atlantic esque eitehr). so yeah, I leave Ornette in, because The Empty Foxhole is so far removed from The Shape Of Jazz To Come, that...yeah. And The Golden Circle dates, again, post-Atlantic, near-perfection, and on Blue Note. Love Call & NY Is Now, less perfect bot totally significant for any number of reasons. Ornette you don't hink of as a Blue Note saxophonist, but he sure made some Important Blue Note records. Works fo rme. Spaulding I count because he was there on a lot of significant statements dates and didn't exactly fuck anything up be so being. But I can let him go if need be. But take off Joe Henderson and/or Wayne?. Hell no!. Those guys work for the label is still thought of by many as their best, both compositionally and playing. And with Joe, good god, look at the outstanding sideman dates. Awesome!

Never underestimate the impact of just randomly hanging out with your neighbors.

alto - J-MAc, LD, Ornette,Spaulding (sic) tenor - JoeHen, Wayne, Hank, Turrentine

I had no doubt heard jazz in the air any number of places before I heard The Beatles, and even had a few "obsession" before them (notably Jim Reeves' "Billy Bayou" , Big Joe Turner's "Flip Flop And Fly" * David Seville's "Almost Good", as well as the Muffin CRG records), but it was The Beatles who flipped the ON switch for me and music and left the lights on pretty much to this day. So I've got that shit in my blood just as much as I do anything, probably a little more primally than some toher things, and...just no sense in pretending that it didn't happen the way it did, or that I really don't like it any more, that I gre out of it or something, because that's just not happened and probably never will. But I can tell you this I know full damn well that Coltrane playing "Transistion" is more of a life-lesson that "I Am The Walrus". But I can also tell you that "I Am The Walrus was a life changer that got me to the point to where the life change that "Transition" brought about was able to be received and acted upon because I was in the mood for life-lesson/life-changing music very much because of The Beatles, and no, I don't know that I would have been so open to change and growth and exploration and just sound if my big light-bulb moment would have been some $ Seasons record, if you know what I mean. You can't pick where or how you get hit, you just pick how you proceed after you do.

This is not that, but if you can find it, get it.

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