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Taste, eh, that's been ongoing. What I did learn is that you don't necessarily need a record store to find good records, and even with a record store, always check the cutouts. Always look, never assume. So maybe that's how it affected my taste in music

That's a really good song. Try the Johnny Lytle version with Marvin Cabell, on Milestone. Hell, try the original!

Herbie had a history with Creed Taylor, btw, going back to Verve. What he played on the CTI dates is neither unexpected, unprecedented, not out of line with what he had been playing all along.

Yeah, he dropped a stick, which I guess was not that unusual, and he recovered ok, but it wasn't spunky at all. Like I said, a bit sad. That's one thing that gets me about Buddy Rich, if he ever played tired, I've never seen it. But then again, Buddy Rich was crazy.

How was Payne on those 70s Basie gigs? There's some things on YouTube ca. 1970 of him with Harry James where he seems a bit old and...labored. Kinda made me sad. But maybe it was just that particular night or whatever

They did show the Petrie's bedroom. More than once, actually. They slept in seperate beds, which is a sure sign they were fucking. y'all need to watch more TV show. so hey: what you don't learn from jazz, you can count on TV show & R&B to fill the gaps.

It's the Sound Of Surprise!!!!

Also bought there: A. O. including some of the Crown Maxwell Davis big band tribute records discussed a few months ago. Woody Herman and Charlie Barnett. But those were it as fast as jazz went. Still, an album every few weeks, hey, everything was new and 8 weeks or so was forever. It was downtown Gladewater. I could ride my bike there and back, about 7 minutes each way.

Bought it at a Firestone store, because I 'm a staunch traditionalist. Always have been.

I'm starting to appreciate the little (and they are little) distinctive touches in Nestico's writing. I must be getting daft or something, but I am. Shoot me now, before it gets worse, maybe

Fournier/Nasser piques my interest.

Revised Standard Version.

Kinda why I get a Phil Spector vibe out of Creed Taylor...

Yeah, question prompted by Feather's liners on Basie Big Band. Never take that cat at face value, but it got be to looking at recording chronology and yes, there was a gap. Is it wrong to look at the Pablo big bang records as the RSV of the NT band? Maybe? Marshall Royal is gone, all the drummers are certainly neither Payne nor Jones in style7, Sammy Nestico as the main writer is a different flavor... none of which would be really worth noticing if not for that gap...

If so, who?

Why would you be surprised that somebody has a different opinion than yours? Besides, it's not a "Bags at his best" thing. It's a "one of his best records" thing. Perhaps you don't understand the difference?

Sunflower was done in 1972. Blue Note, Idle Moments style, was over by then.

Not 63. Blue Note was over by 72.

Teddy Edwards was on the scene too? Another prickly sort, apparently Criss even got some studio dates for Granz. I was a bit surprised to find out about those, they have not exactly "lived on" in the Granz legacy.

Yeah, but Blue Note was over by then. That world was over by then. So...example of something wonderful that wasn't really happening any longer. Except maybe on Bob Porter organ records? Like it or not, Rhodes was the forefront of the new mellow. And weed had gone mainstream. Shag carpeting was what you fucked on. What the new mellow is now...hell if I know. Silencers, maybe These are about the most unmellow times I've lived in, that's for sure. Oh, FM. FM was by definition mellow compared to AM. And a record like Sunflower (which I obviously love) and, say, Sky Dive (which I don't even like, much less love) sounded GREAT on FM. On AM, the older records sounded better. They were not mastered for FM and badass stereos. CTI was I had access to both jazzes radio and I was a teenager, so hey. Speaking of radio, I don't know how things were in your town, but on every FM jazz radio around her (except for the bullshit NTSU station), every song on Sunflower - EVERY song - stayed on the air for years, decades even. I pretty much knew that album by heart and didn't at all feel bad about it AFAIC, if CTI has a Kind Of Blue it terms of perpetual listenability at any level, it's Sunflower.

HA!

Gotta look at the entire lyric for the whole story. Dated it certainly is, but cornball? Hardly. It's a perfect reflection of the new "Sex and the Single Girl" ethos. Hell yeah, there were girls at the office, and they had the pill if they wanted it. And men will always be men. Do you think Rob came home to Laura just out of a sense of moral obligation? And I bet that Millie kept Jerry in line with more than just her sass. I bet there was a lot of fucking in New Rochelle in 1962

I've heard that many times, which has me wondering how the whole thing got started to begin with.. was Granz looking for a backup to Bird? Also heard that there was apparently some "New Bird" hype at one point that really fucked Criss up, but have never seen any proof of that, from Granz or otherwise

And those who seek to play them. There are no good guys in this game.

So we can blame Madeline Peyroux?