Niko

actually, i think about that almost every day just wanted to point out that their policy of putting stuff online looks a bit erratic to me... which let's the future where nothing is available on cd but some of the back catalogue is online look less bright to me than it would otherwise...

after a brief web search i seriously doubt that those five albums actually came out (yet?) if you look through this thread (which is admittedly very long) you'll find that there's a mostly uncertainty over the present and future of this series...

don't know if this is what you mean - some HLP vocal tracks are included... http://www.mosaicrecords.com/discography.a...;copies=7%20CDs

might know what you mean - baker pales surprisingly much when you bunch him together with all the other fifties trumpeters, somehow he is very much a man of his own terms... (like, can it really be true that he couldn't read chord symbols and just relied on listening) when i haven't played his music in a while my wish to do so always gets less and less

very stupid question... going from what's available on sites like spotify or deezer / which i would roughly guess is similar to what's available for download (?) is there any reasonable explanation why earl anderza's album is there but curtis amy's katanga isn't? i mean, they're both oop and both from the same batch of releases...?

been wondering about that many times... how many lps did baker record that were for somewhat strange labels (ran possibly by somewhat nicer guys)? how many times did baker fail to fulfill his side of a contract or fulfill it in a way that didn't quite satisfy the other side? several thousand times? and these carpenter/prestige albums at least have good bands, good material (brought together by carpenter, not in the right way maybe, but it was there and animated chet to do something slightly different for once) and good recording quality? something about that experience must have been real bad? or maybe it was just that carpenter made baker feel like a loser.... i mean - how can he call these albums the biggest mistake of his career (like he did iirc) when he recorded, say, more than a hundred worse albums and so many albums for which he just got an upfront fee of 1000$ and nothing more...

hope a leftwing star doesn't bother you... (i actually lost one star after posting that rohrschach picture here a few weeks ago i believe...)

!! Happy Birthday !!

i played a lot of late period baker in the last few days... since this is the "being nice" week at the org let's say late period baker is not better but different (though what i would say is that while in the fifties baker was good but miles davis was much better, in the sixties and most of the seventies baker was not quite as good and miles was much better the years from 1978 onwards so clearly go to baker it's ridicuolous) i can somehow enjoy the quartet with mulligan but it doesn't do that much for me, i like some of the riversides and the albums with george coleman though mostly for the sidemen, what i do like of the earlier (60s) stuff are his collaborations with rene thomas... but some of the late period albums i really wouldn't want to miss, especially the trios... they are so direct and open-minded (one story from de valks great baker bio is by philip catherine how he was somewhat hesitant to bring his electronic effects to the gig with an old guy like baker at first, then just did it and baker only smiled and said something like "oh my gosh, so much stuff" and that was it) (i also appreciate that these albums don't involve much singing...) not all of the 100+ albums baker made after 1976 or so were briliiant (or even decent) but the best ones are... some i have enjoyed over the last few days are candy (on sonet, trio with michel graillier and jean louis rassinfosse) rassinfosse/baker/catherine (igloo, guess i was lucky to find that one) strollin' (enja, same band as the last, almost as good and easier to find) broken wing (jazz in paris, quartet with phil markowitz) at capolinea (red records, a sextet) edit to add: the 100+ i also got from de valk, it's "appearances on record including bootlegs" but the number of albums is still astonishing... another edit: the number of albums (including bootlegs - but that line is hard to draw with an artist like baker who would record for anyone if he got a one time fee of 1000$ or so, and co-led things) after 1974 is actually 110+

don't know if this is what you're asking, the quote is from carole's next article... http://www.examiner.com/x-15042-NY-Jazz-Mu...jazz-is-burning

indeed! and the infamous list contained ravi coltrane and carlos garnett as well (none of my favorites but still easily this side of the fence...)

here's a list http://www.jazzdisco.org/prestige-records/...es/album-index/ didn't get until now (when i read "PRLP 16-6 Pepper Adams/Cecil Payne/Julius Watkins/Dave Amram - Modern Jazz Survey - Baritones And French Horns") that what held the two sides of PRLP 16-6 together thematically was that an "unusual" instrument appears twice... didn't know that both sides were originally co-led (i mean, the second half is still co-led but by curtis fuller and hampton hawes... looks almost like intentional confusion)

late chet baker and somewhat parallel once more artists from belgium, the strangest country in the world... (nathalie loriers, michel graillier (only belgian by marriage), steve houben, the pelzers and i have a long list of names - most of these guys don't do much for me but some do...) (check out this guy's http://www.youtube.com/user/Spatzoupload two rene thomas videos on youtube, a long one with louiss/humair and a short one with bennett/clarke (if i identified all correctly...)!)

Au contraire i was talking about "many here"... had actually considered mentioning that some people (marsalis people) indeed draw the line there (which doesn't make charlie christian's guitar electronic but still...); but i guess nowadays it's safe to say that these people are in a minority (? never been to new york...) not only here ; and i guess it's only the most stubborn jazz fans who see bitches brew or the work of pat metheny in the same boat with dave koz's christmas album (which i just sampled to see what i was talking about)

welcome! i only have a vague imagination of what being the jazz person at a newspaper is like, but i wish you all the best with it and i don't see what's wrong with trying to cover a broad variety of music/the music people like to read about... i doubt that many here feel that your statement below represents their feelings about smooth jazz... doubt that anybody here sees, say miles davis' bitches brew on the wrong side of the fence... (and electric guitars have been treasured in the jazz world for much longer)... [ensuring that some of the flames hit me] for me pat metheny is right at the border, i do hear the differences to kenny g and obviously he does improvise but the... quirkiness i like about my jazz is missing...

happy birthday and a quick recovery!

found it for 2 euro on a flea market within a bunch of crap last year... the cd is great, notably for solal's contribution (iirc it's something like 4 pieces with the full band, three in a quartet without horns and then some more with griffin added...) the cd does however not contain everything from these sessions that's available "online"... there's also this dvd http://www.amazon.com/Live-Hamburg-1965-We...4371&sr=8-1

hmm looks indeed as if for the first time we have a decline in the biggest medium which is not backed up by a simlarly sized increase elsewhere... looks as if their service isn't needed anymore...

Nathalie Loriers Quartet - Dance or Die (deezer) not bad though not quite as good as the cover...

(very good) previous thread http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18281

I'd be interested to know which books you'd name under this heading. For me, the first that come to mind are Art Pepper's Straight Life and Hampton Hawes's Raise Up Off Me. still got to read the hawes bio... guess a huge difference between the two books you named and de valk's is that these are autobiographies... i really liked straight life, but somehow i don't feel an autobiography can really do justice to personalities like pepper or baker (after all - this generation of white musicians must have been the one of the most difficult group of characters in jazz history?(raney, getz, haig, marmarosa, and so many others) but what do i know, baker does not come across particularly troubled or unhappy in that book... btw, just out of a different world with all the difficulties that brings) it's just revealing to read the baker interview in de valk's book seeing he doesn't know about a good deal of the albums he releases, misplaces others by more than ten years, doesn't know the name of jean louis rassinfosse who had recorded six albums with him in the last few years... this type of thing wouldn't have made it into an autobigraphy... and then, i feel a complex person like that is much better described by the impressions of a few dozen others than by their own words... also de valk maintains an excellent balance between writing about the music, writing about the person and setting the two in relation (expect no deep musicology though) one excellent book which falls somewhat in between is aj albany's book about her father joe albany (we used to have a thread about that one) it's not much about the music and of course highly personal but still i'd say you certainly learn more about albany than in what i'd expect would have been in his autobiography... a particularly bad example concerning getting to know the person is buddy collette's autobiography... the book sure is informative but could hardly be drier - i wish (and am almost convinced) buddy collette is a more interesting person than comes out in the book...

Jeroen de Valk's Chet Baker Bio once again (while listening to the Rassinfosse/Baker/Catherine cd) such a great book, maybe of all the jazz biographies i've read the one that helps you get to know the artist as a person the best... somehow de valk figured out that he could write a great baker bio mostly by extensively interviewing people in the Netherlands who knew him from the seventies on - and i'd say he was definitively right... afterwards my two books of lovecraft stories that reappeared again (bringing the index of treasured but lost items in my appartment down to two...)

it rather is around 12$...

Jean-Louis Rassinfosse/Chet Baker/Philip Catherine (Igloo) fruitfull visit to my local brick and mortar... as i posted elsewhere - their selection is small, but for the only serious cd store in town they're beter than most i guess (and they're not specialized on jazz at all)... 8 euro...

Sean Levitt - Alone together (lastfm still waiting fot that order to arrive...