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If it's the same one I'm thinking of, it's just a repackaging of the hardbound Concepts box. I doubt it's been remastered. Completely unnecessary...

Hey 7/4, where'd you get that shot of me in my living room?

Not all my cuppa' but I'll never fault a guy for liking what he likes (unless it's Kenny G of course ). Personally I need more variety - and could never listen to so much Blakey in a row - but it is interesting to get a "glimpse" of Dan's collection...

Colors is da' bomb. Is it still available? If so, grab it!

I stand corrected. The "stupid" vs. the "stupider" vs. the "stupidest."

Hmmm... I thought it was the "stupid" against the "stupider."

That is the weirdest penis ring I've ever seen...

96 dBs is more dynamic headroom than one usually experiences in real-life; it's far more than one needs for music. I think the most dynamic music only hits the 20 dB or so range...

Interesting spread of votes. But Dan, you forgot one poll choice: "Are you kidding? We're trying to raise kids here!"

One issue that's rarely raised - but should be discussed - is the problem of balancing the profit potential of some of this material versus the "legal" costs of releasing it. Someone above mentioned that the DeFranco box was essentially "okay" to purchase since Verve could have but didn't (and won't?) release it. But for Verve to officially release it, they would need to pay for all licensing rights per the stricter U.S. copyright laws, thereby making it a more expensive product that would still only appeal to a relatively small fraction of their audience. (Heck, even Mosaic only sells between 3-5000 copies of mostr of their box sets these days.) In short, there's not much profit potential for Verve - making these "legal" reissues a bad business deal. Now Definitive can put out the same set for much cheaper - partly because their licensing costs are much cheaper (and perhaps because they "steal" their "masters"). Offered at a lower pricepoint (one not practical for U.S. companies) and because they are essentially an indie label with less overhead, they could sell the same number of copies and make some money off of it. A lot of folks around here complain about the grey area of European copyright law and how it steals from the artists and record labels, and while some of that may be true I think in the case of a lot of the more obscure artists (and I'd toss DeFranco in there, at least among the general public) it would be financial impossible for a U.S. company to release some of this stuff with the expectation of making a profit - so they don't. Thus the only way this stuff could come out, short of some record collector's needle drop, is through a cheap Euro edition. Unfair? Yeah, probably. But perhaps the only way for us to ever hear this music on CD. And I'm not sure if the situation will ever get better as time passes, these artists are forgotten by the younger generations, and fewer of us "old folks" are still interested in buying this stuff. Let's face it - a lot of what we like could be considered "historical recordings."

This is it - hands down... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=Ac998b594tsqh It's not "in print," but it is readily available used... and usually very cheap.

I think it depends. B) In retrospect I think my Bonus Disc should have been in a separate thread since it contained so many tracks and was so thematically different, but one of the earlier ones (Jim's?) only contained four long tracks and I think in that case it was acceptable to keep the discussion in the same thread.

No problems with that. Shipping - especially internationally - is so unpredictable. One of the guys in Germany got the disc I sent him in three days. For others it took two weeks. (A couple of others didn't get them at all). It is important, though, as Dan said, that only the compiler start the discussion thread.

D'oh! I missed most (all?) of these, of course, and even failed to recognize a few albums that I own - mostly tracks "buried" in Mosaic sets. I may have that Claire Fischer on LP, but haven't listened to it in ages. A couple of very pleasant surprises (the Solal and O.P. among them) and one wonderfuly unexpected twist (the Bill Evans breakdown). Again, many thanks Daniel!

My apologies to Daniel for being so late to the table. I started writing down my comments last week - I'd been away for a bit - but never got them finished or posted. This is one of those discs that contained a lot of things that I liked (some quite a bit) but not much that really bowled me over - no new sounds that I hadn't heard before, that made me jump up and go "wow." (Which is just as well, since that could be embarrassing depending on where I'm listening. ) At the same time there's nothing on it that I disliked either - and that's saying something. As usual, I haven't read a word of this thread - and I'm eager to, so on with my guesses... 1 “Manteca” – or one of them Dizzy tunes; I always get them mixed up. Love this tune and this version sounds pretty fresh, with a modern touch. The beat is so infectious and I dig all that oddball percussion mixed in with the horn arrangements. 2 Nice piano solo. Pleasant, but unremarkable. Sounds late 40s-early 50s – I’ll take a wild guess and say Errol Garner. But now that I’m listening longer it sounds like an “older” player, with a bit more stride to his playing. In other words: no clue. 3 Kinda cool-sounding, but not Pacific Jazz-y enough to ring any specific bells. Early 50’s I’d guess, but that leaves so many possibilities. 4 Again, quite nice, but no clue. I love the varied arrangement – it helps makes this a very interesting piano trio. Ah, it’s live… 5 I know some hate it, but I really dig the flute as a jazz instrument. It really caught my attention in the opening passage. But then a more traditional horn arrangement kicks in. I’m noticing the clear and bright trumpet tone, but couldn’t identify it to save my life. Maybe Kenny Dorham? But I don’t recognize this arrangement as anything he might have done. Hmmm… now the piano playing is standing out to me, so I’ll guess that it’s the pianist’s date… 6 This could be the start of… hmmm, I thought this was gonna my favorite Steve Allen composition, but then it seems to go elsewhere. Pianist really chews it up. Nice! Still, a mid-50s (?) trio session – could be anyone. Red Garland? 7 I’ve been listening to a lot of this kind of stuff lately – it sounds like a late 60s-early 70s recording that mixes a traditional post-bop sound with a bit of a pop and rock groove. I really like this, but haven’t a clue as to the tune/players, etc…. 8 “Maiden Voyage.” One of my favorite modal tunes in all of jazz. I think I may have this version, but I’ll have to think on it a bit. I doubt it’s one of HH’s many versions. Lovely… 9 Taking a stab at the horns I’ll say Dave Liebman on sax and Eddie Henderson on trumpet (though I have no idea if they ever played together). 10 Flute and electric piano, trying to be Return to Forever (but it’s not them). No, then a larger ensemble kicks in behind the leads. Could it be James Newton on flute? Don’t think so as the piece is too “conventional” for him. The obvious choice would be Joe Farrell. Maybe one of his CTI albums? 11 Fine playing, but this one doesn’t really stand out to me. Fits right in next to the last few tunes though (a theme?). 12 Sounds like Bjork – I’m still waiting for some one to throw “It’s Oh So Quiet” on one of these BFTs. But no, then the icy opening vocal gives way to something a bit more conventional, though still a bit icy. (Must be chilly on that waterfront.) Singer sounds a bit like Sheila, but I don’t think that’s her, not in this setting… 13 No clue. More of the same like 9-11. 14 A nice change-up, but no idea. 15 I like this one a lot, ragged opening and all. These guys are really having fun. Could be Jaki Byard on the piano, tickling the ivories as if he were born a hundred years ago. Ah, much too short… Thanks again, Daniel!

Ulp... Hey Jim, you're absolutely right and I realize that I never did get around to buying that CD of yours. Is CD Baby still the prefered way to do it or is there a better way to get more money directly to you guys (and maybe a bit extra for the board)? I will await your answer as I hang my head in shame...

I'll have to agree with the others that the pace is already too fast - it's been hard to keep up lately and I'm behind in my comments. I like to listen to each bft disc at least 2 or 3 times before commenting, then like to absorb the music again after knowing who's who and what's what.

Received them over the weekend and am spinning the first one now. Very nice so far. Many thanks!

Well, if you really want science fiction...

Hmmm. Just so there's no confusion, GOM: I meant that I had a brain fart not that you were one.

Yep. Brain fart...

"Unpleasant?" After your account's set up, it takes about two clicks to make a payment. And Ebay's linked directly to it. It's quicker than addressing an evelope and licking a stamp. Have you tried it recently?

Yeah, I regularly buy them for less than ten bucks, so no they're not overpriced.

It might be cheaper to order the FresH Sounds "Jazz in Hollywood" box

From what I've read, it's so easy to block this process that I don't know why they even bother...