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Ah yes, but as I posted on that other thread, will it also leave out the vocals? There were some great ones in Duke's band during this period--Ivie Anderson for sure, and Al Hibbler too I think. Inquiring minds want to know! Not that I won't get it, of course! greg mo

Nothing. Some of their other sets (the Beiderbecke/Trumbauer/Teagarden set, for instance) have lots of vocals. Why don't you ask them why they're leaving out the vocals on this one? The reasoning on the Goodman set was that almost all of the vocal material had been issued separately by Collectors' Choice or other labels. I haven't really checked on how much of the Helen Forrest etc. from Shaw's band is available elsewhere...but I'm guessing that including the vocals would make either the Shaw or Goodman boxes 12-13 CDs, which might be a bit unwieldy for cost/price/economic purposes in the present climate. In a way, I can understand leaving the vocals out, but still, I think doing so creates a distorted picture of the Shaw band, and the era. iIwould say that the vocals tracks are essential to a valid understanding of any of the big bands, and to leave them out goes against the very reason Mosaic was created, as quoted from their website: We want Mosaic Records Box Sets to be as important, and as complete as we can make them. Our sets include every significant track that falls within the scope of a given project, presented in an organized, chronological manner. We go into the vaults of as many record labels as necessary to examine all the original session tapes. In addition to all previously issued material, Mosaic box sets are usually rich with unreleased tracks and valid alternate takes. It's no accident we're considered the label for fans and collectors "who want it all". It's nice that this set is being created, but I feel that this continuing trend, in terms of traditional big bands, weakens the historical and artistic viability of what Mosaic is doing. I don't want to go on rant, but still, I think Mosaic can do better. Still, in these financial times, this is way better than nothing. I hear ya, Matthew, and ideally I'd like a complete set, vocals and all, as well. I remember somebody (at this board or another one) talking about how they'd taken the Mosaic Goodman they'd bought and created cd-rs that incorporated the vocal tracks into the sessions, in chronological order...pretty painstaking work, I'd imagine, plus you'd have to actually already have all of the vocal sides and a discography. But where there's a will there's a way for jazz diehards! In the meantime, I'll join the chorus of gratitude for anything at all coming out (plus I'm a big Shaw junkie & will love hearing the material I haven't encountered before... I've got SELF-PORTRAIT and the Heps that cover this period, but I'm still sure there'll be sides that are new to me). It would indeed be hard work. The Collector's Choice 3-cd set of the Forrest vocals is ok, and the Columbia 2-cd of the Peggy Lees is better, but there are a few outliers (Dick Haymes, others) that are hard to pull together. I'll also go for the Shaw set (I go for all the Mosaic sets). Are there vocal-only sets out there from the Shaw period as there are for Goodman that hopeless completists like me could get? I can't recall seeing any recently. Good news about the Ellington set, but will that also leave out the vocals, I wonder?--no Ivie Anderson? Al Hibbler? greg mo

Couldn't agree more. Their saving grace is that, once you figure out how and where to email them about an order, they're usually pretty responsive, or at least, they have been in the past. greg mo

Thanks Niko, I didn't know about this one: "20-- Frank Strazzeri: Taurus Conte Candoli (tp), Frank Rosolini (tb), Don Menza (fl,ts), Frank Strazeri (elp), Gene Cherico (b), Dick Burke (dr) (rec. 6.1.1973) (also issued on Creative World CW 3003 as "View from within" ) Taurus / Lazy Moments / Strazzatonic / Calcutta / Sphinx / View From Within" Don't think I've ever seen that one on cd. As something of a Rosolino fan, I'd like to hear that! greg mo

I've always had a weakness for Benny's bop stuff. It would be an understatement to say he never got into it like other swing band leaders did (like Charlie Barnett, for example)--he dismissed the whole thing after he disbanded that group. Some of it does sound weird, though! "The Hucklebuck" is sure a case in point! I only count about five sort-of-bop things with Gray on the 4-cd Mosaic set of his Capitol small group recordings. The rest are pretty traditional (but good) swing things. greg mo

That's an eclectic list! I appreciate the tip about the prices remaining despite the disappearance of the site. I went ahead and ordered the Gil Evans and Ten SACD and the new Monterey Jazz All-stars cd. Used the "cmg" which pretty well covered postage. greg mo

That's very good news! I'm embarrassed to admit, however, that I don't know much about the Revelation label. Could you share with us some information about what other artists recorded with the label whose work might be of interest to the Board? Many thanks! greg mo

Oh yeah--the old Decca Jazz Heritage Series! Great music, unbelievably dreadful sound! One of my nightmares is that the big fire may have left some of these as the only versions from some more obscure bands like Jan Savitt or Lucky Millinder. Brrrr. greg mo

Yeah, the sale stuff appears to be gone. All the links now take you to the box set sale. greg mo

I checked it out--nasty shipping cost to the U.S. I may wait a bit to see if another vendor gets hold of it. greg mo

I think you'll really enjoy Harold Land's The Fox It's a great album, and Dupree Bolton is amazing on it. greg mo

No one has mentioned Melba Liston, a brilliant arranger and a fine trombonist. Among singers...er...Ella?! Sarah? Carmen? And I love Shirley Horn too. greg mo

Is the Armstrong set on back order? greg mo EDIT: It's not--ordered mine with the free shipping!

All the Vintage series albums were prefixed LPV. Cool series, often poor vinyl, occasional skipping problems. greg mo

"Teddy Wilson and His All-Stars," 2-LP set on Columbia, CG-31617 issued 1973. It was all recorded for Brunswick and has 5 Billie Holiday vocals and 2 by Ella among its 31 tracks. That's the material I'm talking about. I have the Lady Day set, so I don't really want to pick up all the Heps in order to get the instrumentals, but there is some fine material on those instrumentals--lots of stuff by Johnny Hodges, Chu Berry, Roy Eldridge, Buck Clayton, Harry James, and others. Sure seems like there would be enough instrumentals and non-Holiday vocals to fill a Select, but those who have the Heps could answer that better than I can. greg mo

They'll have to pry the credit card from my cold, dead hand. Oh yeah! greg mo

Hans wrote me that the Ellington set is also on hold--that they haven't even contracted for the rights yet. Sigh. But hey, if we weren't patient, we'd have all been in the looney bin long ago. 'Course, some of us are already there, but I won't name names! greg mo

I think so - and am I missing anything, having the Jazz in Paris of the Stitt/Peterson and the VEE? Don't know about the VEE, but, as Ubu knows, the three tracks are definitely not on the JIP. I have them on a 1991 cd issue of the album, catalog no. 849-396-2, personnel as listed above, though this cd lists the recording date as 10 October rather than the 11th. Seems like we've discussed this issue on the Board before! greg mo

The Duke Ellington Brunswick/Columbia set should be coming out at some point. I think they've been working on it a while. greg mo

Mosaic has promised an Ellington 30s Brunswick/Columbia box, so the material should be available before long in a deluxe form--'course, it will be just a tad bit more expensive! greg mo

That's a fine recommendation. I don't know if it's available on e-music, but "The Oscar Peterson Trio Plus One" with Clark Terry is my favorite of the Verves. And I don't think you can go wrong with "Satch and Josh," the great album OP and Basie did together for Pablo. Peterson's response to Basie's solo on "Jumpin' at the Woodside" really is delightful. greg mo

T-Bone is the source. What a man. Jean-Marie, yeah that's a nice JIP reissue. I hadn't heard those cds before. I really only know him from the interesting work he did with Barney Wilen. May have to see if there's more to find. . . . If you find something interesting by Jean-Marie, Lon, clue me in. Frankly, I ordered the cd because I'm addicted to the whole series, so I had no expectations one way or the other, but I liked it. He gets a really nice sound out of his piano, very reflective in a Bill Evans kind of way, though that may be giving both him and the cd too much credit! greg mo

I just discovered Standards In Silhouette a few months back myself. I'm in no way a Kenton fan, but this one actually moved me, something that KentonMusic rarely does. Otherwise, I've always been partial to Adventures In Jazz. And of course, the Bob Graettinger pieces, but that's a thing unto itself, really. Kenton's West Side Story album is awesome. A lot of the more adventurous 50's stuff on Capitol is pretty tremendous. Even a lot of the late 40's stuff is pretty cool, really enjoy hearing Anita O'Day and June Christy with him. I've also been very late to the game on Kenton, just really got into him last year. Some good early 70's concert recordings by him floating around also. I've always been partial to "Adventures in Blues." Some great Gene Roland arrangements on that album. And of course "Kenton in Hi-Fi" with some way cool Milt Bernhart trombone! greg mo

Absolutely. I have the Bluebird box too, though I confess I thought long and hard about selling it when I got the Mosaic. Decided to keep it for several of the reasons already outlined here. But the Mosaic is very, very fine, and there are some great sessions there. I don't think anybody has reissued the similar instrumental sessions Teddy Wilson led for Columbia (or was it Brunswick?), have they? Some fine work there. greg mo

Yeah, I think I may have felt that way when I bought the Monk Blue Note set on LP back in the late Jurassic. Now, innumerable Mosaic sets later.... Well, what the hell is money for, anyway?! greg mo