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Thank you! And by the way, I have nothing against sampling, I've heard some great things done with it but if you are going to use other peoples recordings you should pay for the priviledge. In a way you are using the sample instead of using musicians so there should be a budget for it as there are no musicians to pay As the article notes, they did pay the record label to use the tapes. They did not have to pay Newton for the use of the composition, but later offered to pay him anyway when he threatened to sue. Then Newton rejected their offer. I think some people are crying foul for reasons that don't have anything to do with the musical or legal realities here. If jazz were the genre selling like hotcakes and hip-hop the domain of a few fringe artists struggling to make a living, would we still be mad at the Beastie Boys if Newton threatened to sue for the use of his sample? Or would we be calling Newton the greedy bastard here? Read my first post. The record company owns that particular performance of that tune and you have to get permission from the record company to use that performance of the tune. James Newton owns the copyright to the tune and you have to get permission from him to use his tune. They didn't so Newton is well within his rights to sue. If the Beasties made an offer to James and he didn't think it was enough money, that's his right. Perhaps that makes him a bit of an asshole but it's his tune. He owns it. He decides what is done with it. One thing is unclear to me: is the sample from the head of the tune or from improvising on the tune? It might not matter in this case, but what about sampling a cover version? If I sampled a one second fragment from Nicholas Payton's solo on Cantaloupe Island, from a part of his improvised solo--a part that Herbie Hancock never wrote into the music, do I still have to pay Herbie for the use of his composition?

Which other trumpeters have you been listening to?

Thank you! And by the way, I have nothing against sampling, I've heard some great things done with it but if you are going to use other peoples recordings you should pay for the priviledge. In a way you are using the sample instead of using musicians so there should be a budget for it as there are no musicians to pay As the article notes, they did pay the record label to use the tapes. They did not have to pay Newton for the use of the composition, but later offered to pay him anyway when he threatened to sue. Then Newton rejected their offer. I think some people are crying foul for reasons that don't have anything to do with the musical or legal realities here. If jazz were the genre selling like hotcakes and hip-hop the domain of a few fringe artists struggling to make a living, would we still be mad at the Beastie Boys if Newton threatened to sue for the use of his sample? Or would we be calling Newton the greedy bastard here?

I think Jim's point is that it depends on the sample. This is three notes. It was used in a way that made it sound completely different from the original work. If they had taken the entire tune and rapped over it, that's a different story. It's not like it took a whole lot of skill for the Steely Dan bass player to do what he did, either. I don't play bass and I bet I could learn that line in an hour. You do the same thing three times in a row (a perfect fifth up and down) and then do one other thing (play one note). Almost anyone here could learn how to plunk that out on a synth in 10 minutes and make it sound ok. Now I guess the question is, where do you draw the line between a legitimate sample and a ripoff?

Is nothing sacred?

Do you have Chris Lightcap's "Bigmouth", on FSNT? That one features Malaby and McHenry together and is seriously tight.

"UR TOASTIE!!" pwned.

Nightmarish. Although I admit I didn't think Episode I was so horrible. It was so bad people were laughing at lines that were clearly not supposed to be funny, and laughing harder at the hecklers making fun of the lines. Hayden Christensen may have delivered the worst performance I have ever seen. For a film set a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, his diction sure sounded a lot like he was auditioning to be in a boy band on Earth, circa 1998.

Yeah, in general I think Booker's music used modern harmonies in a way that Miles wasn't so interested in. My familiarity with early '60s Miles is not what it should be but I get the sense that for Miles it wasn't "about" the tunes and how interesting you can make them--it was more about getting a great, punchy sound out of the group, and then later (post-1963 or so) he started playing with form without spending his time dealing with Booker's kind of harmony.

fwiw, Bossa Antigua is now on sale at Best Buy for $8.99. Just in case Vibes is reading this...any sweet deals coming down the pike in the future?

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I don't know. I suspect not, but I'll probably offer anyway the next time I come in.

Sounds like getting the job might revolve around your answer to that question. That is what I'm afraid of...I'm writing my follow-up email right now and have no idea what the hell to say. What if he thinks my opinion is totally bullshit?

I'm currently interviewing at this small firm downtown. It's sort of a long drawn-out process, but I'm nearing the end of it. Not what I thought I'd be Doing With My Life, but it seems an engaging and friendly enough place to work for a while. Today I got to interview with the president of the company. I'd sort of heard from the other people that he was a jazz fan, but for all I knew his collection could have been mainly Boney James with Kind of Blue and Time Out thrown in for yuppie cachet. So I walk in to his office and the first thing I see is a framed print of the No Room For Squares cover, with prints of Herman Leonard photos on the other wall. Also Herbie's autograph, framed. I had mentioned my jazz experience on my resume, so after a couple of minutes the conversation turned to that. First of all, this may have been the fastest-talking individual I have met in my entire life. And he's firing questions at me like what I think of George Coleman! (Apparently a very big Maiden Voyage fan.) When I tell him that one of my favorite piano players is Monk, he asks me what my favorite Monk record is...then heads to his cabinet and hands me a sealed copy of Monk's Dream. "Go listen to the solo on "Bye-Ya" and tell me what you think." I guess it went ok...going back in next week for the final round of interviews.

I'm going to depart from my usual no-pissing-on thread rule and say who fucking cares? I'm even sicker of hearing about this than I was with OJ. People kill each other every damn day. If they don't do it in some spectacular or innovative way, they don't deserve my goddamn attention.

Women hate the word. George Carlin referred to it along with "piss" as the two that women simply refuse to say. My theory is that any English word whose only vowel(s) are a short "u" is going to be seen as at least a little gross. For example: "butt," "crust", and "butt-crust."

But were any of them allowed to hang out in the Red Sox clubhouse?

(religion)-(morality)+(materialism)^2+(jazz)+(classical)+(.5prog)=?? maybe I should have made the materialism an exponential?

It's not just that she has no talent, it's that she has no talent, no stage presence, and blames the band for it. Having played with a couple of nightmarish singers who don't have any respect for the band behind them, I completely understand the sentiment behind any vitriol directed at her. Actually, this isn't the first time I've seen butchery like this out of the Simpson family. (No, I'm not referring to OJ.) In 2000 I was at Disney World for my high school's "Grad Night" and Jessica Simpson was performing outside Cinderella's castle. One of us (notmenotmenotmeIswear) really wanted to go see the show for some reason, so we headed over just in time to hear a tape start and a well-amplified squeal of "Stop the tape!!" from backstage. I think there may have been vocals on that tape, too.

Dan, I think that was a joke. Though what country are you IN now, Bebop?

Does Waters of March have any such lyrics?

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Good point, Jim. I looked it up and despite throwing that no-hitter, Brown lost Games 2 and 6 of the World Series that year (though the Marlins eventually won in a huge Game 7, maybe one of the best ever).