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Yeah, I tend to agree. The clay didn't really add anything...for me, it was a regular Conan show, only in clay. But IMO, this particular show was HILARIOUS--the bit with Richard Lewis was particularly good. They couldn't have picked a better one to experiment with as far as I'm concerned.

I think Mike is referring to the fact that in two years, that recording will become public domain in Europe under their 50-year copyright law, and any company will be able to issue it.

Thanks, all. This project is over so no need to PM me. For the record, most dealers told me pretty much the same this as John's advice--"Just don't be an idiot and drive 100MPH off the lot, and you should be fine." The results of this will probably appear in local newspapers in a month or so.

I know this is random, but I'm doing some research at work and I was wondering if a few people who have bought cars fairly recently (within the last 2 or 3 years) could chime in with what their "break-in" period was, according to your manual or dealer. The break-in period is the number of miles you need to put on a new car before you can safely put a normal amount of stress on the engine. All I need to know are your make, model and model year, and length of the break-in period. Feel free to PM me if you don't feel like posting this info on the board. Thanks!

Bravo and thanks for restoring some sanity to this whole matter.

Oh, and I wasn't going to say anything about the fundamentalist Christianity and prowar crapola (the old canard that Saddam was behind 9/11) all over that site until I saw the links to Bob Jones University on it. Does Norah Jones really want these schmucks supporting her? This guy upholds the integrity of an institution that would prefer a situation by which Norah Jones wouldn't even exist--that is, it frowns on the interracial relationship between Shankar and Norah's mother (never mind the fact that she was born out of wedlock).

Hey, I think we ended up lucky to have Musicboy over here. The OTHER moderator (not Neon) of some of the Norah forums, according to his website, is a Kenny G fan.

The cat can play but the new CD sucks. A pity because I am personally acquainted with one or two of the people on it. Save your money.

LMAO. Can I quote you on my political philosophy final tomorrow?

Yeah, I posted in a fit of laziness. I looked it up in the catalog and it's there.

I have 4 of these, all but the second McGhee and Salvador. Of those, my favorite is the Foster/Wallington, just for the trombone playing! Plus the tunes are great on both and I dig Quincy Jones's arrangements. A close second was the first McGhee, because the Drew trio session is a MONSTER. Some of the tunes on the McGhee half are a little lackluster to me, though. The Watkins is solid...need to listen to that and the Melle a bit more to make a fair assessment.

I just played these on my Vanguard radio program. Can't help you much, except that Jack Woker (who posts to rec.music.bluenote) agrees that these most likely fit into the gray-market category. Sound is pretty good, and the playng is fine. The date, if I had to guess, is close to that of the Enja recording.

I'm toying with the idea of producing or acting in this play at school. Anyone know where I might be able to find the script?

How are these albums? Do they live up to the reputations of the august personnel (Newborn, John Simmons, Roy Haynes)? If so, seems like they would be prime candidates for a reissue from Blue Note.

Up one last time, as we go into our final 24 hours.

I was looking not at microfilm, but at the new online index of the NYT on ProQuest Historical Newspapers. Thought that this covered all the advertisments too, but evidently not. There is an article about the Slide Hampton gig with a date of Nov. 17, but nothing else as far as I can tell.

Something else that might be significant: "Cubano-Be, Cubano Bop," a track on the album recorded separately in Sweden, is listed explicitly as being "recorded live" in Sweden, while the other material simply says "Recorded in New York". (For the purposes of my show, it's a moot point--the Russell LP was playing on the air as I looked up this thread again.) The New York Times coverage of the Newport Jazz Festival lists the Russell orchestra as scheduled to play there on July 1, but it doesn't cover any of Russell's activities for the remainder of 1978. However, the Arts and Leisure Guide of the Times has a regular weekly section for "what's happening in the clubs". While it is covered every week in 1978 up through August 6, the Vanguard is not mentioned in the section between August 6 and November 19, when Abdullah Ibrahim is listed at the Vanguard. Was it possible the Vanguard's doors were closed during that time?

Oops, I read the Program Guide wrong--the Orgy will actually be interrupted at 1pm on May 5, but will pick up again that evening and finish up the morning of May 6. If the moderator's reading this, can he edit my subject line for me? Thanks!

I'm not sure what they're saying; to me the liners seem ambiguous. They do say that the one track recorded live in Sweden, "Cubano Be, Cubano Bop," was included "because Russell and co. frequently programmed it at the Vanguard." No mention of a studio in the liners, at all. One other piece of info that might be useful: Ricky Martinez plays electric piano and organ on the album. I don't know of any other Vanguard sessions that use either, though there are probably some sessions from the '70s that use Rhodes. Is the Vanguard an organ-friendly venue? Are there lots of stairs that make it difficult for a B3 player to get his instrument in there? August 16, 1978 was a Wednesday, which I guess isn't terribly helpful except in not ruling out the possibility of a live set, assuming Mel Lewis and the orchestra were still holding down Monday nights.

We're underway now. 104 hours! It's going to be nuts. I emailed Mike Ricci at All About Jazz about this, but if any regular posters over there want to mention it on their boards, that would be awesome.

Thanks Jim. Got an 11th hour question about the George Russell "New York Big Band" LP. The Vanguard website has it in their list, and Russell's own website says "live at the Village Vanguard." But the liners say that "what one hears in this album is a simulation of a typical set" at the Vanguard. Unfortunately, the library's copy of the Lord discography ends right before the volume with letter R, for some reason. Was this in fact recorded at the Vanguard? It doesn't really sound like a live LP (no audience noise), and I imagine it was quite a task to record a big band in there, although they of course did it with Thad and Mel--but I can't think off the top of my head of any other large groups that recorded there.

As I mentioned in the discography forum, for the last month I have been putting together a marathon of music recorded live at the Village Vanguard. It starts Thursday at 7am ET and will be continuing (with a few short interruptions) until May 6. I will post a full program if people want to check it out. For now, if you're interested, go to http://www.whrb.org/pg/MayJun2003.html or listen in by going to http://www.whrb.org and clicking "regular feed." Enjoy! Adam

Whatever happened to them? And are there any reliable sources for their albums?

Got a question about that Kenny Burrell Argo album. The station has "Man at Work," which is in this case a Cadet reissue of the original Argo LP, as well as a Jazz Time release from Spain or Portugal called "All Night Long" that seems to contain all the same material. But we also have this Chess 2LP reissue called "Recapitulation", Chess 2-ACMJ-408, which claims that it contains two tracks left off the original, "Tricotism" and "Afternoon in Paris". Can anyone verify that those two tracks are from the same live session?

Both are well worth the cash. I believe you can still get both of these directly from Chuck.